Grr people only after puppies for one thing!!

I was referring to Lucky-Lady's mention of registering puppies. Neither of mine are registered with the (UK) KC either.

I just can't understand why someone looks at a baby puppy and thinks 'I really want to breed from that'......anything could transpire between then and 24 months.....
 
CaveCanem said:
I just can't understand why someone looks at a baby puppy and thinks 'I really want to breed from that'......anything could transpire between then and 24 months.....
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So how does one start then? Are there that many mature dogs sold purely for breeding purposes? I would suspect that there are a lot of people who look to get a puppy and think "it might be nice to breed in the future as well".
 
NoseyPosey said:
So how does one start then? Are there that many mature dogs sold purely for breeding purposes? I would suspect that there are a lot of people who look to get a puppy and think "it might be nice to breed in the future as well".
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And thats fine, cos it might well be nice to but if the puppy turns into a right fugly specimen, health issues arise, it doesnt pass health testing and has done nothing to prove its worth as a breeding dog between that point and at least 2 years then they endorsement isnt going to be lifted and it wont be having any registerable progeny. However on the whole people obtain a puppy to become a pet...or to work....or to hopefully show, or a combination of the 3. They dont buy a puppy to plan to breed from it. If I went out and bought a puppy from another line now I would be looking at wanting the three above attributes in the future from that puppy plus it being healthy. That means that the scope is there for it to possibley be bred from in the future should it live up to those terms and of course, if it proved itself in all those areas then the breeder would lift the endorsement for me when the time was right should I decide to breed from it.
Lets make it clear, I've just started my own line effectively, I hope for my pups to go on and do great things and be of breeding quality that will credit the breed in the future. Should the owners then wish to breed from them under my guidance I will happily lift the endorsement, nothing would make me prouder than for my puppies to be able to enhance the breed.
 
The more I read this thread I can't help thinking that there are several different kinds of breeders (full time or one off's) - the enthusiast, the moneygrabber, the snob and the owner who would just like to let their pet be a Mum which puts a whole different slant on the whole subject maybe?
 
See I really don't get the 'letting her have one litter because it's natural and she'd be a lovely mum' type thing, a lot of bitches I've seen look bloody miserable by the time the pups are a few weeks old and can't wait to be rid. :p
 
Oh yes there are definitely many different types of breeder.:)In my experience its only the minority who think "it might be nice to breed in the future as well". In the 50 + years my family has been breeding, it is a tiny percentage of puppy purchasers who have gone on to breed. Some of the ones my mum bred have gone on to start breeding lines for other people, but at a guess only around 20. Of the pups I have bred and sold over the last 35 years as far as I am aware only around 6 have gone on to breed from them, 3 of those were on breeding terms anyway, and one of the others had my pup as his first breeding bitch, and is still breeding with great success some 25 years later, and in fact my Evie came from him, you could say things had gone full circle.;)
 
'Letting a pet be a mum', as a theoretical snob breeder :p would probably be the last reason I would ever breed. I am actually struggling to think of any female dogs that I know currently, who, if I owned them, I would breed from....
 
Actually, I've just had another thought more relevant to the OP - if KC registering is so important, why would there be a need to stipulate endorsements in order to protect a breed. Isn't that what the KC is supposed to be for anyway?
 
Good stud dogs are only put to the best bitches (or this is how it should be but it's very much like the horse world very money grabbing) therefore producing decent dogs. A stud dog owner should want to look at a bitch first before offering a mating. So I agree with endorsements and haven't come across them or thought of them before.
 
NoseyPosey said:
Actually, I've just had another thought more relevant to the OP - if KC registering is so important, why would there be a need to stipulate endorsements in order to protect a breed. Isn't that what the KC is supposed to be for anyway?
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Theoretically yes, in practice no. Not sure I'd want to rely on anyone else to safeguard my puppies any way. I know I've done my best if I've done it myself. And wasn't expecting FIVE whole pages of thread lol! Don't think any of my threads have made that many pages :p
 
Well here's the little lady :D

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So sweet!

I seem to have heard so many people recently that think "have bitch, must breed litter".:mad:

I was under the impression that the KC had closed the loophole of people being able to get round endorsements by elling to a third party? I might be wrong though.

OP, your pup is lovely and I'm sure her forever home will find her soon.:)
 
eeep gorgeous! I cant remember a litter in the last year where miss purple hasnt been my pick....odd coincidence, I spy a purple collar on this little lady too! :D
 
If you breed a litter with the due care and attention the most 'hobby breeders' do then you don't make any money in fact for the vast majority you either break even or you run at a loss but hopefully get to retain a puppy. Not all breeders are in it for the money.
 
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