Grrr some people!!!

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Am looking to loan out my horse. Through a friend, a girl and her mum came to a look at him yesterday. Girl rode him quite nicely, jumped him well, although is still quite novicey. Mum is not at all horsey and in fact "hates horses"...

Last night they were sure they wanted him, came up again today and said yes but need to double check with dad. Dad has said yes, then I get a phone call INFORMING me they will be there on wednesday with their usual instructor for an assessment session of him. Bearing in mind nothing has been agreed or signed....no one bothered to ASK me if they could come up and ride him, no one bothered to ASK ME if it was ok for their instructor to teach her on him when I said I would prefer my own instructor to teach her initially, no one bothered to ASK ME if it was convenient (it really isn't but there's not a lot I can do now they've arranged it already), and no one bothered to ASK ME if their instructor could ride him...was just INFORMED their instructor will be riding him to see if he's up to the level their daughter needs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This horse is now schooling at Novice, doing some medium work, jumping 2ft9 courses (will do 3ft but at the top of his range), hunted 4 seasons so has great manners, is dead easy to do...and they tell me that he may not be of a high enough level for someone who doesn't even know which diagonal she's on?!!!

Am in the process of writing a Horsemart ad for him, at least if I do a full loan straight away instead of share with view to loan I will hopefully get a nice PC horsey family who understand that horses are animals and not machines!
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Is it always like this when selling or loaning horses??
 
Yup I'm sorry but I'm rather bitter about the whole process and would rather not sell or loan unless someone came to me saying 'I want your horse'. Too many 'experts' out there for my liking but not everyone is bad. I found a lovely loan home for my horse on the third attempt.
 
I wish it was that simple...love my horse to bits but I want to do more now and he can't do what I want to. He'll be great for a teenager or more novice adult to have fun on, but I'd love to start BE so I need something bigger and scopier. Can't afford two horses so I need to loan him out (don't want to sell him as he has breathing issues).
 
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Some people just think the world revolves around them dont they.

Your horse sounds lovely BTW.

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do you want him?!
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Thing is, I understand that the family are non horsey so they want to take it slowly, but at the same time they fail to grasp that he is NOT a RS pony and as such does not behave like a braindead plod. He has "character" which is why I wanted her to have lessons with my instructor who knows him inside out.

They got quite upset earlier when I said my instructor didn't have any qualifications (theirs is a BHSAI don't you know...
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), wasn't good enough she was born onto horses, has run her own yard, BE Intermediate evented, hunted, breaks, schools, and so on.....
 
Miserable so & so's - MD would give her right arm for Rhyn! It is Rhyn you're loaning out is it?
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Miserable so & so's - MD would give her right arm for Rhyn! It is Rhyn you're loaning out is it?
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Yes, are you in the market?!
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It just makes me mad that they think they can ring and INFORM me when their instructor will be riding him to assess him, when they haven't even signed the contract or paid yet!!
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I wish I was 'in the market'! MD would learn such a lot from something like Rhyn! (The Black Baggage is lovely but doesn't know how to do a great deal really & is bit of an 'aim, point & shoot' kinda pony!)

Maybe you're just feeling a bit fragile & over-sensitive CC, I know how much the little orange furball means to you!
Take a deep breath & reserve judgement until you've met the instructor at least!

The kid might be novicey & the mum not very horsey but there is a flip side to the loan story as you know - maybe they have heard all the horror stories of mis-described ponies & are just trying to keep it all business like & a bit offhand until they're sure?

Huggies anyway! xx
 
LOL, not fragile and over sensitive.....I can totally see where they're coming from and it's great that they want to be sure he's right for them etc, but they also need to realise that it is still MY horse. The daughter is great and would get on brilliantly with Rhyn, the mum is just a pain. Have no problem with them bringing an instructor over, I just would have preferred to have been asked and not told. What if I'd arranged to go to a competition, or had a lesson booked myself?

*takes deep breath*
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I think i need to make it clear to them that they need to work with me...the whole point of a share is that they do they days I can't make it, not that they dictate to me when is convenient for them.
 
People just have such frightful manners these days CC! They probably don't even realise they're being 'rude'!

I hope it all works out anyway, the girl couldn't do much better than Rhyn really, so hopefully her instructor will be better mannered than her mother! lol
 
i hate being told aswell what to do with my horse its just rude!!! I'd maybe look somewhere else for a sharer. If they have annoyed you already then maybe this is only the start of things to come. Although the daughter seems great for your horse, the mother isnt, and this could become a problem for you.
 
I think that's incredibly rude too. Wouldn't have hurt AT ALL to ask if it was OK with you, would it? I think JAK's right and they didn't even realise they were being rude! Shame you couldn't say something like "Oh, what a pity you didn't check beforehand because I'm busy that day..." or similar...
 
He sounds such a super little horse. I would look for someone else who would appreciate him (and you) more. If these people are irritating you now, what will it be like in six months time ...............? It would worry me that they are telling and not asking you - is this an indication of the attitude they will have towards your horse?
 
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who feels like this!! If they decide he is "suitable" for her I have in the contract that it's a one month trial and then it will only be extended if I'm happy with everything that's going on.

A friend at the yard knows the mum quite well (not a friend though) and said to give her the benefit of the doubt as she comes across badly when you first meet her, but is actually very well meaning. She also said once the share starts the mum won't come near the yard, which is good!

Will see how we get on....
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well....I was informed they would be riding him at 6pm, to which I said sorry but I can't get out of London by then. They were most put out that I wanted to be there!!

Am getting myself wound up about it now actually
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I don't think it's a very good start, I'm wondering if they appreciate the difference between loan and own. I have loaned twice in the past and I would have been surprised if the owner hadn't kept an eye on me at first. As for bringing in a new instructor you've never met, of course you want to see what they are going to do! In fact, if you asked her to have a first lesson with your instructor, then it's really off that they aren't doing that.
If you go ahead then make your loan contract tight, specify when and when the horse is "theirs", policy re going to shows, your right to vet instructors, and whether or not they are allowed to change or introduce new tack. Stuff like that...
Do I sound like I've been there and got several T shirts?
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LOL Tinypony, just a bit!
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I am going to let the instructor see him on wed and even if they say they want the share, I will have to go away and really think about it TBH now.

Am hoping a nice HHOer might want him!!
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