Grrrr stupid drivers!!!

[HackWithMe]

Hello everyone! Just to let off a bit of steem I thought I would come on here to rant. So yesterday was my first hack alone on my 4yr after a while of hacking in pairs. Anyway he was an angel didn’t notice a difference in his behaviour at all and took it all in his stride. So today I thought it would be good to take him out again as I had some rare free time in the morning. The day went of well left the yard around 9:30 at the yard I’m at you go left or right out of the gates. On this day I went left as I had been right the previous day. When you go left there is a bit of a blind bend but nothing major people can see you still and you can see them -you can see them through the bare hedge-. I headed out of my yard as the cost was clear, I was at the peak of the bend and I heard a car - didn’t think much of it and carried on, little did I know it was at high speed and in the middle of two lanes. It took us both by supprise she came flying past so quickly I couldn’t even look for number plate or even ask to slow down she saw us and sped up!?. Luckily I was tucked right by the hedge but it was a near miss. Then after a successful hack and a canter in the woods I came back to another driver speeding. This one was in clear view. I was high vized up the nines -hay silk was reflective, ear bonnet was reflective, hi viz jacket, and 1/4 rug for my horse that was also hi viz. I’m pretty sure you could of seem me from space (just how I like to be?). He came flying past it was a big van I politely asked to slow down using my hand and I got bibbed for a good 5 seconds and he flew past me, this lane is a small lane so I stood still and hoped my horse didn’t move a muscle! Luckily he’s absolutely fine and didn’t bat an eye lid. Again so fast I couldn’t even see the reg but he had a company van and it had a Lamborghini picture on the back??. I was in complete shock. I hope that will the last time I see that n*b. I hope everyone else’s day was better than mine. I just worries me because if I wasn’t on a horse as good as mine it would have been completely different story!

 

[Nasicus]

Hat-Cam time if you ask me! I think there's a well priced one called a Chilli cam I think, under £50, could be worth getting one so in future you can report such dangerous driving!
I'm another fan of being visible from space, I get plenty of comments from people when we're out because pony and I are a vision in eyeblinding orange! Yet you still get people who either don't understand there could be horses/children/anything around the corner, or just plain don't give two monkeys

 

[HackWithMe]

Hat-Cam time if you ask me! I think there's a well priced one called a Chilli cam I think, under £50, could be worth getting one so in future you can report such dangerous driving!
I'm another fan of being visible from space, I get plenty of comments from people when we're out because pony and I are a vision in eyeblinding orange! Yet you still get people who either don't understand there could be horses/children/anything around the corner, or just plain don't give two monkeys

Yes definitely need to invest!! Thanks for your recommendation, I also got a comment today from a elderly geltlemen saying ‘I take my hat off to those who take their time to be visible on the roads’ only if there where enough people like him!

 

[cremedemonthe]

The Highway code is being updated soon, 2 metres clear and no more than 15mph I think it is in passing horses.
Get a camera on you, with todays core of arrogant bad drivers who really know they should slow down but just don't give a stuff, it's time all riders should have them.
Get them on camera, report and get them fined, it's the only way the message will get through.
Please consider joining the group I am involved with, there's nearly 26,000 members now, all trying to make roads safer.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/passwideandslow

Stay safe, Oz (Saddler)

 

[Trouper]

There are various messages you can get on Hi-Viz. I have yet to see one which says "You're on camera" with a camera silhouette? It might not make much difference to the idiots who come up on you on a blind bend but it might help in some situations.

 

[southerncomfort]

I'm going to get the 'camera' tabard.

On our last hack 99% of drivers were absolutely brilliant including the massive quarry lorries we seem to have a lot of at the moment.

Two drivers were cr@p! One was driving an absolute shed on wheels and passed us doing at least 50mph even though I clearly asked him to slow down and got 2 fingers for my trouble.

The other one: I was turning right at a quiet junction and signalled and moved to the middle of the road. A car came racing up behind me and sat basically at our heels revving his engine as we made the turn. Absolute a-hole!

The only thingbi would say about going round a bend is that actually rather than tucking in to the hedge I usually move to towards the middle of the road same as cyclists do as I believe drivers see you more quickly. I've been known to wave an arm too to catch the attention of a driver following me round the bend. We have one particular bend that almost turns back on itself and I'm going to contact the council to ask if they'll paint ' SLOW' on the ground on the approach as their have been so many near misses there.

 

[AntiPuck]

There are various messages you can get on Hi-Viz. I have yet to see one which says "You're on camera" with a camera silhouette? It might not make much difference to the idiots who come up on you on a blind bend but it might help in some situations.

Rider Eye do one like this https://www.ridereye.co.uk/

I agree with the hat cam suggestion, and then make sure you report these idiots to the police and BHS.

 

[southerncomfort]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25458978...MI2pej1e3H9QIVlGDmCh2Zmgg7EAQYAiABEgLBQfD_BwE

I've just ordered this.

 

[southerncomfort]

Their is this one too:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25458976...rsOtherItemsV2&_trksid=p2508447.c100817.m4967

 

[[139672]]

I haven’t ridden a horse on the roads for many years. I always used hi vis leg bands, as well as wearing a hi vis waistcoat and hat cover. I feel the legbands help with some drivers who just don’t look much further than the end of their bonnet. I also carried a long schooling whip with 2 luminous green shoe laces tied on the end. I’d hold the stick out a bit. A driver once passed so close the wing mirror caught my stirrup iron. The car stopped, passenger got out and had a go at me for damaging the car. He soon got the message once I’d finished shouting and ranting at him about their dangerous driving. I second headcam, crucial these days, sadly

 

[Reacher]

I bought some speed camera stickers off eBay and stuck 2 to my hi viz tabard (back and front) (and 2 to my trailer to discourage overtaking on blind bends )

 

[scats]

Their is this one too:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254589762547?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=1110002&algo=SPLICE.SOI&ao=2&asc=20201111125924&meid=5b2fa7ecf1b347c9b14dfe0774763c9d&pid=100817&rk=2&rkt=6&sd=254589788437&itm=254589762547&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2508447&algv=SellersOtherItemsV2&_trksid=p2508447.c100817.m4967

i have that one in pink.

 

[HackWithMe]

The Highway code is being updated soon, 2 metres clear and no more than 15mph I think it is in passing horses.
Get a camera on you, with todays core of arrogant bad drivers who really know they should slow down but just don't give a stuff, it's time all riders should have them.
Get them on camera, report and get them fined, it's the only way the message will get through.
Please consider joining the group I am involved with, there's nearly 26,000 members now, all trying to make roads safer.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/passwideandslow

Stay safe, Oz (Saddler)

I’ll definitely invest, it’s just not safe anymore!

 

[HackWithMe]

There are various messages you can get on Hi-Viz. I have yet to see one which says "You're on camera" with a camera silhouette? It might not make much difference to the idiots who come up on you on a blind bend but it might help in some situations.

Yes definitely worth a try, but I guess they won’t see it if they come speeding in front of you. But at least they will get fined if I catch it on film.

 

[Rowreach]

If you can afford it, the Techalogic camera (gives you footage front and back) is the best one out there. Chilli bullets are good and they do a special price for two. Muvi are the smallest and lightest but battery life isn’t great, although you can use a charging pack.

 

[PeterNatt]

My advice is always wear a long sleeved Hi-Viz jacket so that other road users can see your hand signals. Techalogic camers are excellent as they take footage from front and back. If you have any incidents please report them on the www.horseincidents.org.uk web site which collects statistics. If you have problems with a particular section of a road then organise a 'Police Close Pass Operation'. This can be done by contacing the BHS Safety Department.

 

[Lois Lame]

The only thingbi would say about going round a bend is that actually rather than tucking in to the hedge I usually move to towards the middle of the road same as cyclists do as I believe drivers see you more quickly.

This sounds potentially very dangerous to me.

 

[scruffyponies]

This sounds potentially very dangerous to me.

Southerncomfort is correct. You need to be aware of the oncoming vehicle's sight lines.
Better to approach a left hand bend on the rhs of the road if it is single track, then move over once they have seen you. Those extra few braking seconds make all the difference.

 

[TotalMadgeness]

Hello everyone! Just to let off a bit of steem I thought I would come on here to rant. So yesterday was my first hack alone on my 4yr after a while of hacking in pairs. Anyway he was an angel didn’t notice a difference in his behaviour at all and took it all in his stride. So today I thought it would be good to take him out again as I had some rare free time in the morning. The day went of well left the yard around 9:30 at the yard I’m at you go left or right out of the gates. On this day I went left as I had been right the previous day. When you go left there is a bit of a blind bend but nothing major people can see you still and you can see them -you can see them through the bare hedge-. I headed out of my yard as the cost was clear, I was at the peak of the bend and I heard a car - didn’t think much of it and carried on, little did I know it was at high speed and in the middle of two lanes. It took us both by supprise she came flying past so quickly I couldn’t even look for number plate or even ask to slow down she saw us and sped up!?. Luckily I was tucked right by the hedge but it was a near miss. Then after a successful hack and a canter in the woods I came back to another driver speeding. This one was in clear view. I was high vized up the nines -hay silk was reflective, ear bonnet was reflective, hi viz jacket, and 1/4 rug for my horse that was also hi viz. I’m pretty sure you could of seem me from space (just how I like to be?). He came flying past it was a big van I politely asked to slow down using my hand and I got bibbed for a good 5 seconds and he flew past me, this lane is a small lane so I stood still and hoped my horse didn’t move a muscle! Luckily he’s absolutely fine and didn’t bat an eye lid. Again so fast I couldn’t even see the reg but he had a company van and it had a Lamborghini picture on the back??. I was in complete shock. I hope that will the last time I see that n*b. I hope everyone else’s day was better than mine. I just worries me because if I wasn’t on a horse as good as mine it would have been completely different story!

Sorry to hear this. Please could you report the incidents to the BHS so they've got the data. And as others have suggested please get a camera either a dual or two cameras for front and back. I use Boblov clip on cameras clipped and taped (for extra security) onto a vbandz safety camera vest. I also use the Techalogic dual camera (for the rider on my other horse). I recently started using flashing cycle lights fastened to the stirrups. A red one for the rear and a white one for the front. These appear to be very effective (and cheap).

 

[Leandy]

This sounds potentially very dangerous to me.

No, it is the sensible thing to do. You are more visible, you will be seen from further away as being in the path of the vehicle, you have more space to react yourself to whatever the driver may be doing and if you hold your ground they pretty much have to slow down as they can't get past. I will stay there until they have clearly seen me and are slowing down, then I move over to let them past with a cheery wave.

 

[sbloom]

Tucking in to a hedge can often mean you invite car drives to squeeze past you, the same reason people ride two abreast in some cases. If there's not room for them to pass with decent space it's often a good idea to occupy the road in a way that stops them passing at all.

 

[Birker2020]

I'm going to get the 'camera' tabard.

On our last hack 99% of drivers were absolutely brilliant including the massive quarry lorries we seem to have a lot of at the moment.

Two drivers were cr@p! One was driving an absolute shed on wheels and passed us doing at least 50mph even though I clearly asked him to slow down and got 2 fingers for my trouble.

The other one: I was turning right at a quiet junction and signalled and moved to the middle of the road. A car came racing up behind me and sat basically at our heels revving his engine as we made the turn. Absolute a-hole!

The only thingbi would say about going round a bend is that actually rather than tucking in to the hedge I usually move to towards the middle of the road same as cyclists do as I believe drivers see you more quickly. I've been known to wave an arm too to catch the attention of a driver following me round the bend. We have one particular bend that almost turns back on itself and I'm going to contact the council to ask if they'll paint ' SLOW' on the ground on the approach as their have been so many near misses there.

Mine is like this

 

[jnb]

@Birker2020 where did you get this from, please?

 

[Birker2020]

@Birker2020 where did you get this from, please?

https://www.printmywords.co.uk/collections/personalised-ride-on-exercise-sheets/hi-viz

 

[Birker2020]

Mine is one of the wrap around exercise sheets so comes round the chest as well but it has this logo on the tail. Its not this make, I got mine from Your Horse Live.

 

[Birker2020]

Found a photo! I put lights on the top of mine, available from Poundland, little silicone cycle lights.

 

[southerncomfort]

View attachment 86302 Found a photo! I put lights on the top of mine, available from Poundland, little silicone cycle lights.

That's brilliant!

Interestingly I read in the paper today that as part of the changes to the Highway Code cyclists are now advised to ride towards the middle of the road when cycling round a bend.

 

[sbloom]

If only drivers were trained that they should only go at the speed that allows them to stop in the space they can SEE to be clear we'd not have people speeding around blind bends.

 

[CPayne]

I have one of these. It’s useful for keeping extra distance between horse and vehicle and reminding people what they’re meant to do. Says “slow down” for traffic from the front and “pass wide” from behind.
https://www.ponyjumps.co.uk/Safe_Whip/p5051591_20859529.aspx