i would be absolutely fuming if people took it upon themselves to keep feeding my horses treats/ extra haylage after being expressly asked not to and also ignoring a sign!!!
now people sound like a nightmare if they don't realise the harm they could be causing- absolutely no horse sense
change your sign to DO NOT FEED, UNDER STRICT VETERINARY DIET. If they then continue to feed him get your vet to write a letter saying he is prone to colic.
and tell them if he colics they will be liable.
ETA i had this same problem on a livery yard someone took it a pone themselves to give my gelding more hay (he had his weighed and soaked and feed from the floor and she gave him a dry haynet
) and rug my mare in spring because she thought it was cold. also feed both polos and treats.
please make your signs human friendly, as yard politics do kill a yard. just start with please and finish with thankyou. state that tit bits will make horse ill (allergies etc doesnt need to be strictly true) try to talk to the other liveries and the yard owner and get some nice basic ground rules so that you are all happy campers!!!! hobby horses are a lot different to working with them. but everyone wants to enjoy their horse in one way or another!
signs work wonders, my gelding used to bit horses that when past his stable (he is claustrophobic) i used to tell everyone to be careful and noone would listen then moan when he went for there horses. so i put a sign on his door had no more complaints.
How annoying!
Slightly different, but I hd a phonecall last week from someone insisting I did something because she had just seen a horse out in the snow with a rug on (and field shelter and round bail f haylage) and that MUST be cruelty! IDIOTS!
Get on the internety and buy those signs that say that your horses are under the vet and if they are fed treats they will die...
Then blast everyone you see near the horses. Put up signs in the tea room telling everyone that your not happy with people feeding treats to your horses and if the vet has to be called you will sue. Say this to the Y.O as well...
I to had this problem with one person who just simply did not understand that one of mine when getting treats went off her head almost to the unridable point which made it dangerous for the lady that rides for me. My big horse then started banging his door every someone went past his box I got these www.ebay.co.uk item number 200421870469 signs for the doors. So far no more sign of treats being given. I will add I had told these people face to face just how bad it was making my horses. They smiled and said but "We give everyone elses horses treat" At which point I pointed out Not your horse please leave mine alone.
I agree that you may have to spell out exactly why they shouldn't feed your horse on the sign.
One of ours gets 'crazy' if he is given more than a couple of carrots. They are in a field beside a popular road for dog walkers etc and I have found carrot pieces in the field and a hyper horse several times in the last few weeks.
I asked other horse owners if they had seen anyone feeding the horses and several different people had been spotted so I put up a 'Please don't feed the horses' sign.
This afternoon I was checking the horses when a man came to the gate and said 'I gave your 3 some carrots earlier on. I know you have a sign up but I thought you wouldn't mind'.
In an attempt to remain diplomatic I said I would prefer it if you didn't feed them especially carrots because they make X ill. He said 'But horses love carrots and a couple won't do any harm'.
I tried to explain what effect they have on X and the man said 'A couple won't do any harm because I've always just given them 2 or 3 each'.
I said that he wasn't the only person giving the horses 2 or 3 carrots a day and one couple had been seen emptying a carrier bag of carrots into the field. They have to climb over a locked gate to reach the horses in a paddock within the field.
I have just done a new sign which asks them not to feed the horses and explains that certain feeds they have been given recently are affecting their health. I am not telling them which horse or how he is affected and that it is carrots with the hope they will stop altogether.
Yeah, I really cant get over how people totally over rug their horses. Sure a rug on an unclipped horse can stop the coat growing too thick, or an extra rug on a clipped horse may slow hair regrowth or SOME horses may actually need 2+ rugs, but many people are doing their horses more harm than good - I seriously doubt that there are only a handful of horses in this country that dont need rugs. (oops that turned into a bit of a rant...) Having said all that, I would not remove rugs etc off someone elses horse without permission, just as other people shouldnt feed horses they dont have permission to feed.
That woman who rang us the other week, was sure the poor horse must be so cold, he really shouldnt be out in such weather! Where do these people come from, i really do wonder!
I have a horse who is aggresive and if peopel tried to feed him treats he would bite them. I have a sign on my door that says he bites and i have no problem, lol.
The first 2 weeks he was on the yard peopel did try and come and pat him, nose at him ect, and where bitten.
He now left alone and is a lot happier as he really hates people he dosnt know comeing over to him in his stable.
People do not feed other horses tidbits on our yard and it is a yard rule. If someone was feeding my horse tidbits i would inform the YO and the YO would have a word with who ever it was feeding my horse. A horse almost died of choke on oen yard i was on when someone fed it chopped up veg. Luckily somone was on hand to realise the horse had choke and the horse recovered. Had the horse had been left overnight it may of not been so lucky.
There is more to feeding tidbits than it being an anoying habit. I used to have youngsters and always had " do not feed" signs on the doors. As i did not want to encourage nipping.
It sounds like the YO is not on your side and so you dont have the support off him to back you up.
I would maybe explain that feeding your horses whilst not in your presence could reasult in choke/colic as they are on carefully managed diets. Also if this happens then you will expect said person to pay the vet bill to put the horse right again!
Why not just pop a little sign on his door which says something along the lines of:
'No Treats, I bite. Many thanks'
I agree that yard politics can kill a yard, and we all have a responsibility to ensure that our relationships stay polite and pleasant. So I can understand how your signs would have gone down like a lead balloon. They certainly wouldn't be permitted at my yard.
As for people sitting around and drinking tea all day - well if that's part of the pleasure they get from owning their horse, that's their business. Doesn't make them numpties, just sociable. Why not join them?
A lot of people get an enormous amount of pleasure just being around their horses, doing, pampering, and chatting. It's part of the appeal of horse ownership for many.
I've recently moved back to a big 40 horse yard - and admit to having found it a bit of a culture shock. But everyone there is lovely. We all do different things with our horses (some do nothing at all). But the key to getting on is keeping your mouth shut, your opinions to yourself and plaster a smile on your face.
My experience is that people don't interfere because they want to, but because they genuinly feel they are helping. And an odd carrot shouldn't make your horse nippy.
NO one has the right to interfere with your routine of feeding DIY means DIY not ODIFY others do it for you , if no one is listening ask for a yard meeting and be firm , one thing i have learnt is no one listens to me when im nice and i always am, maybe you should throw a wobbly and tell them who think they know it all to keep their fecking carrots to themselves , and i love your rant you are so right about people like this they are everywhere, where have the real horse people gone ??
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Personally i would stop the nicely nicely approach. These people obviously live in la la land and your polite and correct way of approaching them face to face isn't getting through.
I would go and see them next time your up the yard and explain fully, you don't have to be rude but let them know your not a push over and mean business. I wouldn't stand for it. Tell them you do not want to fall out, but you have asked them repeatedly not to feed your horse which they have ignored and as a consequence you have been forced to put the signs up at a result of their inability to co-operate. Tell them you will have to inform your YO if they continue which you do not want to do but feel forced to take it seriously if they fail to acknowledge your instructions as horse owner.
People like this REALLY irritate me - can be quite short tempered with incompetent people like this. Maybe even take one of the original liveries with you or get them to have a word before so maybe it gets through.
At the end of the day, regardless if its treats, haylage, hard feed whatever, unless you have been instructed too, or is plain logic like say the water was running low) you should not feed another livery's horse!
I rug my horse, i feed mine treats, i drink tea at my yard. Most days i can't be bothered to ride. I'm no numpty owned horses for years. Each to there own. But i don't feed other peoples horses unless i'm asked.
jackdaws.... why are you commenting on how they keep their horses? they are only commenting on how you keep yours .. with food?! obviously you dont like how they keep and feed theirs .... and they obviously dont like how you keep yours! its a give and take here and from your comments i would think you are adding to the yard politics! just cos you work with them doesnt mean you are god! and racers are poles apart from the every day horse, and further yet from the hobby horse!
"im sorry i thought we where on a livery yard, not a F@@@@ing petting zoo"
"If i find you feeding my horse uts again you will be seeing to your horses from a wheel chair.
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HAAAAAAAA! Some of these quotes are freakin hilarious! I don't feed mine treats either for exactly the same nippy reasons but there is one old boy at the yard who is really lovely and loves to give my boy polos. I haven't said anything yet but I really should....
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jackdaws.... why are you commenting on how they keep their horses? they are only commenting on how you keep yours .. with food?! obviously you dont like how they keep and feed theirs .... and they obviously dont like how you keep yours! its a give and take here and from your comments i would think you are adding to the yard politics! just cos you work with them doesnt mean you are god! and racers are poles apart from the every day horse, and further yet from the hobby horse!
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The only thing is, the OP's is words and opinion, probably not something she broadcasts on the yard. The feeding of extra to a colic prone horse is dangerous. There is a difference.
If people were to feed LL carrots and Polos he'd get laminitis. Simples. I tell people not to feed him. Simples. If I find anyone feeding him, I'll be having words, probably of one syllabul. Simples.