Grrrrr, bloomin horses!!! (plus video)

[Red-1]

Grrrr, I DO love Jay Jay very much, but sometimes he tests out my patience.

I had just got back from an early morning swim, OH and I were looking at old photos on the computer, Jay was mooching round his winter turnout paddock. What could go wrong? Jay is on rest in a small area for his suspensory injury, all was well.

Unbeknownst to me the electric fence energiser was up and running, red light banging away, but the connecting wire to the electric fence had broken. Of course, Jay Jay soon realised that the electric was not on.... I mean it *should* not have mattered as it is also post and rail fenced to the normal height, with a hedge behind much of it too.... the electric tape is above that height....

I looked out of the window to find Jay Boy grabbing the electric tape in his mouth and ripping it off the plastic connectors. I don't mean slowly, I mean he was having a fine old time, like an Andrex puppy, ping, ping, ping went the connectors. I went out and chased him off, to find he ran right to the other side of the school, grabbed the tape and ripped that off too. Ha Ha, thought Jay Jay, a GAME.

I had to go get boots on, to go catch him, by which time he had a piece hanging from his mouth, shaking it about, and then dropping it so it was ground into the floor......

I felt really rotten catching him, as he was obviously having a FINE old time, he was squeaking and running, bucking and tossing his hair like a Wella advert.

So, I fetched him in, whereupon of course he pebble dashed the grooming stable, including filling his hoof care tub

HOWEVER, sneaky mummy and daddy have spare equipment, we mended the energiser wire, put right the tape, with 6 new tape holders, one new rail and another rail repaired. We also put a cross member to brace one of the uprights he had loosened. JAY MONSTER was not invited back until we had got the battery charger, attached it to the mains and battery for maximum ZAP, and fence tested the lot to 6,000 volts.

Jay was invited back into his paddock, and we sat back, and only had 30 seconds or so to wait before he went to grab the tape for his new game. WOW the zap was enough the let loose an explosive fart, and to jet propel him across the school.

He has since tested all areas on the arena fence, just with his whiskers and is now sulking in his corner.

Jay Man, got to love him!

The video is not from today, we were too busy to film, but it was from just 3 weeks ago. It shows just how much fencing the Jay Man takes! He is finding rest and recuperation in a restricted area very tiresome, even now he is back in some minimal work. He is only supposed to be walking and a slow trot, not sure how we can enforce that. At the moment he is really only out when supervised, for obvious reasons.

[video=youtube;1IyNwPURiRE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IyNwPURiRE[/video]

He is so beautiful, but not an easy keeper!

Jay is having at least a year off proper work, and possibly forever. So, I have been looking for another. In light of today's antics, it is even more surprising that I have contacted the person we bought Jay off, to see if he has another like him (Ho, Ho, Hollow Laugh).

Anyone else have troublesome tinker of a clever, energetic horse?

 

[Irish gal]

Gee Red-1, not sure how much rest the leg is getting like that! He's a gorgeous lad though. Is he mad keen to get to other horses, looks like he's looking out to where others might be. I suppose if you were to stick a little pony in with him he will only herd him into the ground! I bet he would love one of those big giant balls to play with, might give him something to occupy his mind a bit. I wouldn't be giving him any hard feed at all in an effort to calm him down. He's a right character isn't he!

 

[Red-1]

Gee Red-1, not sure how much rest the leg is getting like that! He's a gorgeous lad though. Is he mad keen to get to other horses, looks like he's looking out to where others might be. I suppose if you were to stick a little pony in with him he will only herd him into the ground! I bet he would love one of those big giant balls to play with, might give him something to occupy his mind a bit. I wouldn't be giving him any hard feed at all in an effort to calm him down. He's a right character isn't he!

Ah, a ball... There is a reason he has not got one of those at the moment... [video=youtube;eyvx14auM3s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyvx14auM3s[/video]

To be fair most of the time he is calm, but there is just a 5 minute window each day when he is silly. He was out previously with other horses, and yes, he plays too hard then too, and still jumped from field to field.

For the past year he has only been on dry hay and a handful of formula 4 Feet, as he is barefoot.

 

[hihosilver]

wow what a gorgeous horse! and so sad if he cant be ridden anymore, what injury does he have? he looks sound?!

 

[Irish gal]

Oh dear definitely not the ball so!! That's such a pity about his injury, hopefully though with rest he will come right - it's amazing what rest can do - if he would let himself get some!

 

[Red-1]

He can be ridden, but he has done his suspensory with the complication that when properly rested he started to show symptoms of being a wobbler, which has resolved on a course of steroids and being put back into light work, but before ideal for the suspensory. The thought being that work supports his spine, as the Xrays were not catastrophic, but he had sagged somewhat when rested for the suspensory!

I thought I was going to lose him with the wobblers, but he has now lost the wobbler symptoms, and it is just a matter of waiting to see how the suspensory fares while it is not possible to rest it, and seeing if the wobblers returns.

I have been looking for one to replace him for competing, and TBH he is sounder than most that I have seen.

He is in light work now, as he is sound, symptom free, and cooperating! We shall see whatever he is comfortable with. He needs a few more months build up though before he is allowed to do freestyle playing!

Future? Who knows! If the wobblers returns he will be PTS.

 

[PorkChop]

He is very gorgeous

Though, be'Jesus he is wired

Did you know he would be like this on restricted turnout/exercise? I have one that might need box rest that would be exactly like this - in the stable too! - and I am pondering whether it is even worth trying

Hope he comes right for you

 

[Red-1]

He is very gorgeous

Though, be'Jesus he is wired

Did you know he would be like this on restricted turnout/exercise? I have one that might need box rest that would be exactly like this - in the stable too! - and I am pondering whether it is even worth trying

Hope he comes right for you

The funny thing was, I went to get the headcollar to fetch him in, and in the few minutes it took me to put my shoes on and get his head collar he was settled back down again, right back to eating hay and dozing, and did not need to come in after all.

In answer to your other question, I did not think he would enjoy resting, but I NEVER suspected he would become a wobbler. That one was a complete side swipe. Walking the tight rope between giving enough activity to keep his spine healthy but not over stressing his suspensory is such a tall order that I am not planning anything for the future.

Is it worth it? Yep, for Jay Man it is worth it, but as I said if the wobblers comes back I will PTS as it was sad to see. I plan on keeping Jay Man barefoot so when he is fitter he can go out with my new one, and with no shoes hopefully not damage it too much!

 

[hihosilver]

He can be ridden, but he has done his suspensory with the complication that when properly rested he started to show symptoms of being a wobbler, which has resolved on a course of steroids and being put back into light work, but before ideal for the suspensory. The thought being that work supports his spine, as the Xrays were not catastrophic, but he had sagged somewhat when rested for the suspensory!

I thought I was going to lose him with the wobblers, but he has now lost the wobbler symptoms, and it is just a matter of waiting to see how the suspensory fares while it is not possible to rest it, and seeing if the wobblers returns.

I have been looking for one to replace him for competing, and TBH he is sounder than most that I have seen.

He is in light work now, as he is sound, symptom free, and cooperating! We shall see whatever he is comfortable with. He needs a few more months build up though before he is allowed to do freestyle playing!

Future? Who knows! If the wobblers returns he will be PTS.

ah that's so sad. My 5 year old was PTS with a neck injury and when rested she was ok but as soon as in work she showed signs of wobblers and she got worse quickly, Her x-rays showed changes to her neck vertebrate by the wither-the worse place it could be in, Fingers crossed for your boy x

 

[Irish gal]

I am sorry to hear that Red-1; once the complications come in things get tricky. My last great riding horse had a tricky one two; stress facture just below hock, rest with no lying down allowed for eight weeks to try mend and knit the leg. He was a classic case in that he did what happens to many like that - was almost healed when he lay down and rebusted the leg putting weight on it to get up again. Just awful when he was almost there.

The Wobblers must have been terrible, never seen it and I wouldn't want to. It's all down to luck now for your lad. Fingers crossed he comes through, even if he got better enough to make a nice hack for someone, if he was quiet enough for that.

I know of some nice event types, I will pm you.

 

[alliwantforchristmas]

he's really lovely and your story/description did make me laugh!! I could just picture it! I do hope he comes right for you and the wobblers doesn't return. I've got one from a rescue centre who has wobblers and he does fine as a companion - canters round the field and everything, but I know it affects some horses worse than others.

 

[Red-1]

I am sorry to hear that Red-1; once the complications come in things get tricky. My last great riding horse had a tricky one two; stress facture just below hock, rest with no lying down allowed for eight weeks to try mend and knit the leg. He was a classic case in that he did what happens to many like that - was almost healed when he lay down and rebusted the leg putting weight on it to get up again. Just awful when he was almost there.

The Wobblers must have been terrible, never seen it and I wouldn't want to. It's all down to luck now for your lad. Fingers crossed he comes through, even if he got better enough to make a nice hack for someone, if he was quiet enough for that.

I know of some nice event types, I will pm you.

I am sorry to hear about your horse too.

I don't think Jay will make anyone a lovely hack apart from me, as I am not sure I want to share him ;-).

He came with a rather bad rearing habit (all declared prior to sale, and heavily discounted), and we went through a lot to get that sorted (we played silly games to get a conversation going, as mentally he was very shut down). He has been such a fabulous horse since, especially when about a year after I got him I hurt my back and hip (not to do with him!).

It was like he paid me back for my time, he has looked after me, kept me on board, done 11 double clears BE, although only at lower level as I am no longer physically able to do as much as I did. Jay really looks after me. I guess I feel I owe it to him to look after him in return, even if "looking after him" may end up with PTS.

To be honest I have NO IDEA how I will find another to fill his wonderful shoes. Hence going back to where I bought him from.

If that does not work out we may consider a trip to Ireland. That is where Jay Man came from, after all. He is on a green passport, but to my surprise his sire is a Selle Francais, with his dam an Irish Sport.

One of my concerns is that I am still able to ride a horse such as him as he does more than his share to look after me. I really do not want to over horse myself. I did have a thread on HHO where we bought Betty for me and OH to ride, and part of that was that she was so different, but she was 17hh and killed my hip and back so she was sold again, within 6 weeks.

 

[Red-1]

he's really lovely and your story/description did make me laugh!! I could just picture it! I do hope he comes right for you and the wobblers doesn't return. I've got one from a rescue centre who has wobblers and he does fine as a companion - canters round the field and everything, but I know it affects some horses worse than others.

Thank you. Since the steroids and then work he is not showing symptoms at the moment, long may it continue. Sounds like yours has a lovely life

 

[MargotC]

Gorgeous (and cheeky!) looking boy. Loved the videos.

 

[Irish gal]

Oh dear, it's amazing the bond you have with him, of course you'll never want to give him away as a hack.

I'm going to take a bit of a gamble here and guess who he's by - is he Harlequin du Carel? I spent last week with a horse very like him that riders had come over to try. A talented but saint of a horse also by Harlequin, so his brother. If you got my PM you'd see him on the link I sent. Maybe your mailbox is full, no worries anyway.

It's so tough when you're so close to him like I was with my boy. Despite the broken leg he was nickering for his apples every day until the end and really was in good spirits. It's not easy though, having a horse so on the brink. But your lad looks in great health so he has a lot going for him to pull through. Fingers crossed now.

 

[Red-1]

Oh dear, it's amazing the bond you have with him, of course you'll never want to give him away as a hack.

I'm going to take a bit of a gamble here and guess who he's by - is he Harlequin du Carel? I spent last week with a horse very like him that riders had come over to try. A talented but saint of a horse also by Harlequin, so his brother. If you got my PM you'd see him on the link I sent. Maybe your mailbox is full, no worries anyway.

It's so tough when you're so close to him like I was with my boy. Despite the broken leg he was nickering for his apples every day until the end and really was in good spirits. It's not easy though, having a horse so on the brink. But your lad looks in great health so he has a lot going for him to pull through. Fingers crossed now.

No, he is Hermes De Reve. You are right, we have spent hours bonding. He wore a LOT of tack when he came, but now can be ridden with no bridle. I figured that with the rearing I never used the reins at times of stress, so we may as well not have any!

You can see from that photo my back is bad, and twisted too, but he compensates for me.

 

[*Sahara]

Grrrr, I DO love Jay Jay very much, but sometimes he tests out my patience.

I had just got back from an early morning swim, OH and I were looking at old photos on the computer, Jay was mooching round his winter turnout paddock. What could go wrong? Jay is on rest in a small area for his suspensory injury, all was well.

Unbeknownst to me the electric fence energiser was up and running, red light banging away, but the connecting wire to the electric fence had broken. Of course, Jay Jay soon realised that the electric was not on.... I mean it *should* not have mattered as it is also post and rail fenced to the normal height, with a hedge behind much of it too.... the electric tape is above that height....

I looked out of the window to find Jay Boy grabbing the electric tape in his mouth and ripping it off the plastic connectors. I don't mean slowly, I mean he was having a fine old time, like an Andrex puppy, ping, ping, ping went the connectors. I went out and chased him off, to find he ran right to the other side of the school, grabbed the tape and ripped that off too. Ha Ha, thought Jay Jay, a GAME.

I had to go get boots on, to go catch him, by which time he had a piece hanging from his mouth, shaking it about, and then dropping it so it was ground into the floor......

I felt really rotten catching him, as he was obviously having a FINE old time, he was squeaking and running, bucking and tossing his hair like a Wella advert.

So, I fetched him in, whereupon of course he pebble dashed the grooming stable, including filling his hoof care tub

HOWEVER, sneaky mummy and daddy have spare equipment, we mended the energiser wire, put right the tape, with 6 new tape holders, one new rail and another rail repaired. We also put a cross member to brace one of the uprights he had loosened. JAY MONSTER was not invited back until we had got the battery charger, attached it to the mains and battery for maximum ZAP, and fence tested the lot to 6,000 volts.

Jay was invited back into his paddock, and we sat back, and only had 30 seconds or so to wait before he went to grab the tape for his new game. WOW the zap was enough the let loose an explosive fart, and to jet propel him across the school.

He has since tested all areas on the arena fence, just with his whiskers and is now sulking in his corner.

Jay Man, got to love him!

The video is not from today, we were too busy to film, but it was from just 3 weeks ago. It shows just how much fencing the Jay Man takes! He is finding rest and recuperation in a restricted area very tiresome, even now he is back in some minimal work. He is only supposed to be walking and a slow trot, not sure how we can enforce that. At the moment he is really only out when supervised, for obvious reasons.

[video=youtube;1IyNwPURiRE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IyNwPURiRE[/video]

He is so beautiful, but not an easy keeper!

Jay is having at least a year off proper work, and possibly forever. So, I have been looking for another. In light of today's antics, it is even more surprising that I have contacted the person we bought Jay off, to see if he has another like him (Ho, Ho, Hollow Laugh).

Anyone else have troublesome tinker of a clever, energetic horse?

:lol: OMG this made my day! If I'd forgotten to charge the spare battery then mine would pull a Houdini and escape (despite there being a wooden fence behind the electric one) but they wouldn't grab the tape and run round with it...thank god His antics remind me of back in the day when I'd play with Legend, chasing him up the field then he'd chase me then back again :lol: or if I just started dancing about (he was very playful) he is a beautiful lad, I hope he recovers well.

 

[Irish gal]

This is such a touching story - I think it's one for the HHO magazine proper!

What a good lad, obviously your bond is massive. Well whatever the outcome, you've both done so much for one another and helped each other in different ways. At least he encountered a wonderful owner who helped him trust people again and enjoy being ridden. You must keep us posted on how he comes along with his recovery.

 

[Red-1]

This is such a touching story - I think it's one for the HHO magazine proper!

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Noooo, girl buys naughty horse with big plans for him... girl is daft and plays silly games...horse behaves better (probably out of embarrassment)..... girl injured so posh horse (who previously jumped to Fox) is relegated to BE90/100. Horse is not under pressure at this level so is good. Horse injures suspensory, then when girl does her best and rests him then becomes a wobbler. Horse is now not able to either retire fully OR compete, so girl is now slave to ginger horse.

Not sure I want that one in magazine proper!

Do like the horse though ;-)

 

[Red-1]

:lol: OMG this made my day! If I'd forgotten to charge the spare battery then mine would pull a Houdini and escape (despite there being a wooden fence behind the electric one) but they wouldn't grab the tape and run round with it...thank god His antics remind me of back in the day when I'd play with Legend, chasing him up the field then he'd chase me then back again :lol: or if I just started dancing about (he was very playful) he is a beautiful lad, I hope he recovers well.

Thank you. He is very naughty when we play with stuff, if we use a plastic sheet he digs it, bites it and rolls on it. I once did some flag training and he ran off with the flag.

 

[*Sahara]

Thank you. He is very naughty when we play with stuff, if we use a plastic sheet he digs it, bites it and rolls on it. I once did some flag training and he ran off with the flag.

Legend use to pick up brooms and run off with them! and I agree very touching story :smile3:

 

[Peregrine Falcon]

What a fab character. You have obviously been through a lot with him. I hope that he comes right for you. Love the vids.