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25 October 2010 - The Gypsy Cob Society’s status as an approved breed society and Passport Issuing Organisation has lapsed, after the company ceased to exist.

Passports issued or updated before 25 October 2010 will remain valid.

The Lipizzaner National Stud Book Association of Great Britain will maintain existing passports issued by the Gypsy Cob Society. All enquiries should be addressed to: chairman John Goddard-Fenwick, Cilyblaidd Manor, Pencarreg, Near Lampeter, SA40 PQL Tel: 01570 480090. info@lipizzaner.org.u
 
lachlanandmarcus said:
Your gypsy cobs are now sort of Lippizaners, get practising those airs above the ground:-))
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oh dear, someone must have told Mason already!
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Thankyou DEFRA. Aren't you so kind. Wonder just how they got that...

Think the term I'm looking for to describe this is....

*******SED!!!!!!!!!

Or completely ****ed.

Nope...how about screwed?

There we go.

Wow my week just gets better atm.

:)
 
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This goes from farce to even more farcical. As well as those with weanlings whose breeding they want recorded, what happens about all the passports that were sent for amendment, then DEFRA said "absolutley not allowed to do anything after 1/9" advising the passport owner to stop the cheques & request return of passport. GCS despite promising on the phone have not returned passports. Recipe for chaos there.
AND DEFRA man told me there would be lots of publicity when the decision was made - they have not even emailed me, a known complianant, let alone issued a press release.
Re-arrange the words "brewery up a couldn't p**s organise in" as appropriate.
At least it's an explanation for Jason prancing around in the field yesterday.
 
Hi,

I posted a while back that i had just bought a gypsy cob and sent my passport off with the fee, the following weeks i found out that the society had been shut down.
I have spoke to a woman called Carol at the gypsy cob society and she told me that her other committee member 'Craig Thompson' went ahead and disolved the company and started another at companies house without her signature. This woman was in tears on the phone saying that she had no idea how he had gone and done this without her knowledge!! I am sorry to say this was not my problem and asked that she send my passport immediatley back with the fee that i had sent which she agreed to do. This now is 9 days ago and i still haven't recieved either and i am fuming and now she is not answering her phone!
I have spoke with Defra who told me that i need to get it sorted or i could be at risk of getting a fine, i mean me i haven't done no wrong!! I must add Defra have been a waste of time and all they keep telling you to do is get in touch with Trading standards but i just keep being passed from pillar to post.
I do not know what to do now as i have no copies of her bloodlines either.
If anyone can give me any advice i would like to hear from you.
Thanx
 
I just put my horses passport number into NED and it says Equine not found :s
He's not registered with gypsey Society, his passport is with The Spotted Horse And Pony Society.
Again this looks like a crap photocopied passport I could have made myself!
 
Lipizzaner stud book! How did they come up with that?! Giving the PIO to the TGCA would have much more sense... it seems rather odd to have my coloured traditional passported with the lipizzaner stud book!
Can't I just cancel the whole thing and get him redone with CHAPS?

Ok off to google the lipizzaner folks now and see about getting the ownership details changed finally.

Theres no way I'm telling Hurley, he has enough trouble keeping 4 feet on the ground! :o
 
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Well I checked just before 5 & still no press release on the website. DEFRA's incompetence is beyond belief. I actually have an email stating that they will publicise the decision by press release! I had a phone call Thursday evening from an involved party telling me what was happening so how come by Tuesday evening they have not publicised it properly? I really hope they read this thread because I want them to know what a total load of *@#* I think they are!

The sum of their advice to people who have sent passports in for amendment - ask for it back! How are you supposed to do that when the organisation in question has gone from not answering the phone to leaving it off the hook? And when I have managed to speak to them they promise to send it back & then do nothing. Am I supposedto drive to Cumbria & stand on the bloody doorstep? Because I have been trying every 15 minutes since 1:30 today & every time it's "busy". I stopped my cheque because DEFRA said no way , no how were they allowed to amend passports from 2/9, now on the website they say amendments up to 25/10 are valid. I'm not sending a replacement cheque without knowing ewhat is happening with my passport.


Who is more incompetent GCS or DEFRA - it's a tough ask.
 
Does anyone know who as taken over the spotted horse and pony passports as I have to register my foal soon and the studs covering cetificate as their name on it. I am not being a snob but I have used a registered stallion and would like to have a decent passport for my filly.
 
The_snoopster said:
Does anyone know who as taken over the spotted horse and pony passports as I have to register my foal soon and the studs covering cetificate as their name on it. I am not being a snob but I have used a registered stallion and would like to have a decent passport for my filly.
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This is Defra info which may or may not help!!!

Clearly only updates are being handled--so you may have to choose another PIO--sorry not sure

826015
British Spotted Pony Society
20/02/1996
�� Miss Zena Jackson (Registrar)
Hazelbank
Sandy Lane
Antrobus
Northwich
Cheshire
CW9 6NU
℡ 07774 714 638
��
www.britishspottedponysociety.co.uk
British Spotted Pony

BSPS handle SHAPS passports updates except for SHAPS special category passports (non spotted horses and ponies). These are handled by Pet‐ID equine.

On the web site it does look like passports can be issued--sorry now really confused
http://www.britishspottedponysociety.co.uk/society-forms.htm
 
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mully682 said:
I have spoke to a woman called Carol at the gypsy cob society and she told me that her other committee member 'Craig Thompson' went ahead and disolved the company and started another at companies house without her signature. This woman was in tears on the phone saying that she had no idea how he had gone and done this without her knowledge!!
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Sorry but that was utter rubish she was spinning you i know for a fact that she planned/ing to start up another soc for the uk and france that would only be for GC sec A's & B's .
Maybe if she spent less time trying to play lady muck and flog nags over here in France she might of just been able to run the soc better.
My stallion was reg with them again the passport was crap but i was lucky with him as he is 1/4 welsh cob with recorded breeding so i got the WPCS to issue him with one of their passports as a part bred and put wat was left of the gcs one in the bin where it belongs.

I will go in to more of what she has been doing tomorrow as its a long story.
 
This story is also in the magazine this week, however this doesn't help people like Binky who want to have youngsters breeding recorded.

I emailed the Trading Standards person Cuffey gave me the contact details for and this was the email I received back:
"Thank you for your email re substandard passports. At the moment I doubt there is a lot we can do regarding the quality of the passport, a press release was issued by DEFRA on Monday 25th October advising that Lipizzaner National Stud Book Association of Great Britain will maintain existing GCS passports, perhaps if you contact them they will be able to issue you with a replacement of a higher standard.

With regards to Mason's passport not appearing on NED, I was told to advise people to send a COPY of the passport with a covering letter and proof of your identity eg driving licence/utility bill to NED and they will be able to add Mason's details to NED"
 
Philippa14 said:
Lipizzaner stud book! How did they come up with that?! Giving the PIO to the TGCA would have much more sense... it seems rather odd to have my coloured traditional passported with the lipizzaner stud book!
Can't I just cancel the whole thing and get him redone with CHAPS?

Ok off to google the lipizzaner folks now and see about getting the ownership details changed finally.

Theres no way I'm telling Hurley, he has enough trouble keeping 4 feet on the ground! :o
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my boy is with chaps, spot the mistake on ned site
Date of Birth 02-May-2009
Gender Gelding
Colour Skewbald (Black Tobiano)
Height 142cm
 
I had a shoddy, awful passport from GCS which I thankfully 'lost' and am having reissued.

Thank goodness the GCS are no longer authorised to produce passports - it has been passed to http://www.lipizzaner.org.uk/ instead (God only knows how they made that connection) although I have been assured the passport I will receive will actually be a half decent one with correct information in it.
 
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