Battyoldbint
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Help lol, my yearling gypsy cob was a deep black and white when i got him at 6 months, now hes 14 months old hes turned skewbald, what colour will he end up 
Gypsy cob yearling colour
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xena_wales
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Need pics to have any hope of answering that one!
Clepottage
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Pictures needed to be sure but most likely one of two options.
1. When you say skewbald do you mean bay and white or another colour and white? If bay, the foal/winter coat appeared black and has now shed out a few shades lightler. This is very common just means he's always been bay really just looked darker.
2. He is also grey. If that is the case he will slowly grey out getting paler over the years and eventually looking completely grey.
Like I say pictures are needed to be sure - IMHO option one is the most likely.
1. When you say skewbald do you mean bay and white or another colour and white? If bay, the foal/winter coat appeared black and has now shed out a few shades lightler. This is very common just means he's always been bay really just looked darker.
2. He is also grey. If that is the case he will slowly grey out getting paler over the years and eventually looking completely grey.
Like I say pictures are needed to be sure - IMHO option one is the most likely.
Battyoldbint
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Hes bay and white,just spoke to the breader who has the both mare and stalion and she says the sire is black and white but he throws bay,black and solids
Clepottage
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In that case, provided his dam wasn't grey, you have your answer, Option 1. 
ColourFan
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The breeder needs to learn something about colour genetics in horses ... a black can never EVER 'throw' a bay as blacks only carry the recessive form of Agouti, aa, and a bay carries at least one dominant form of Agouti, Aa or AA.
If your colt is bay and white then the agouti has come from the dam ... she is either a bay-based or a chestnut-based-carrying-agouti.
KarynK
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Not that it matters to you unless you will breed from him but it sounds like dad is homozygous for black as he has not thrown any chestnuts and only one colour gene as he has thrown some solids. OR dad is not a black but a black and tan (At seal brown, another Agouti coat pattern), which can easily be hidden by his white patches. Black is a VERY difficult colour to attribute visually and even geneticists get it wrong!
So what your chap has in the way of coat colour genes will probably be E (black) and whatever his mother gave him (black or chestnut) and A (bay or brown) and e (no bay or brown) but that depends on if dad is black or not!!! Your chap also has at least one coloured gene again depending on mum.
About as simple as a maths test so to be fair to his breeder she probably does know enough about colour genetics for her purposes and that has been lost in the translation! She is simply commenting on the colours of his foals which is perfectly acceptable if she does not have the time or inclination to stick her head in a text book.