Tinseltoes
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Goodness knows,but those are wind tangles and nothing else. Anyone with any ounce of gumption would know the difference.
Gypsy handles in west malling!
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Hannahbone
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my mother always taught me that if youve got nothing nice to say dont say it! this is why i dont come on here much anymore!theres absolutely no need for any of the bitchy comments left here when all the post is about someone who worries for their horses!
JenniferS
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I agree..
hairycob
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The trouble is this stupid myth keeps scaring people - that's why people getr hot under the collar & blunt every time it gets dragged up. If someone else hadn't sperad it the OP would not have been worried in the first place so the peole who are upsetting the OP are NOT the naysayers but the myth spreaders. And if you don't like that comment - tough.
Everyone should have their horses freezemarked unless there is a really good reason not too & those are few & far in between.
I remove these "Plaits" virtually every day from my 2 long maned cobs - if it's not the wind it's the hedgerows. So if they were to be stolen it's inevitable that it would be within 48 hours of me finding a plait but that would be a complete coincidence. However they are extremely unlikey to be stolen as they are both freezemarked. That is what you do if you seriously want to protect your horse from theft.
By the way I was one of the people who checked with the North Wales police & confirmed the Holyhead story NEVER HAPPENED.
Everyone should have their horses freezemarked unless there is a really good reason not too & those are few & far in between.
I remove these "Plaits" virtually every day from my 2 long maned cobs - if it's not the wind it's the hedgerows. So if they were to be stolen it's inevitable that it would be within 48 hours of me finding a plait but that would be a complete coincidence. However they are extremely unlikey to be stolen as they are both freezemarked. That is what you do if you seriously want to protect your horse from theft.
By the way I was one of the people who checked with the North Wales police & confirmed the Holyhead story NEVER HAPPENED.
Tinypony
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I don't think people have been that bad, understandably vexed though. It's very frustrating to keep giving people real information to try to reassure them, only to have others who haven't taken the trouble to do the research keep coming back and insisting that this myth is reality.
If there really is a police force passing this fiction around and scaring horse owners, maybe let them have a look at this thread, then they could go off and check the facts?
If there really is a police force passing this fiction around and scaring horse owners, maybe let them have a look at this thread, then they could go off and check the facts?
xxRachelxx
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I would just like to say that I know the person who posted this thread. The photo posted on here does not show the tag very well. At the end it has a definate three thread plait. Im sorry but no wind can do this! I also know that she has had things stolen form the yard and has her electric fence wires cut. She was very upset by some of the comments posted on here that are very unkind. She was just trying to warn people to be on the look at as she was concerned and I do not think that it was necessary to be so unkind to her
christi
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Agreed .
Tinseltoes
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Amazing that a thief would let the owner know,hey Ive just tagged your animal and going to come back to steal it: I DONT THINK SO.
That is a tangle,my untouchable welshie gets t; hem all the time,hers are EXACTLY the same.
hairycob
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Had another look at the "tag" but it's definitely a wind plait, believe me I see loads on mine. I can understand why she is worried the way these myths get repeated & someone usually pops up with the horse dumped at Holyhead hoax.
I'm sorry to hear she has had stuff stolen from her yard but sadly, unlike horse theft, this is extremely common. There is still a lot she can do to protect her stuff, though generally it's not well advertised. Mark everything with her postcode o horses freezemark. Theives don't want to be caught with an item that will link them directly with a crime. If rugs, barrows, buckets, headcollars etc aren't marked they can't be definitely linked back ( & no that "distinctive" scratch, dent etc is not sufficient evidence). If someone snooping round can see that even low value items are marked they are far more likely to leave alone & move on somewhere less protected.
Do you have a local Horsewatch group? Maybe they can put your friends mind at rest & give her practical advise about yard security. Perhaps you can organise a meeting where they can advise lots of horseowners on security. Please stop worrying about the plait myths & you can sleep more soundly at night.
I'm sorry to hear she has had stuff stolen from her yard but sadly, unlike horse theft, this is extremely common. There is still a lot she can do to protect her stuff, though generally it's not well advertised. Mark everything with her postcode o horses freezemark. Theives don't want to be caught with an item that will link them directly with a crime. If rugs, barrows, buckets, headcollars etc aren't marked they can't be definitely linked back ( & no that "distinctive" scratch, dent etc is not sufficient evidence). If someone snooping round can see that even low value items are marked they are far more likely to leave alone & move on somewhere less protected.
Do you have a local Horsewatch group? Maybe they can put your friends mind at rest & give her practical advise about yard security. Perhaps you can organise a meeting where they can advise lots of horseowners on security. Please stop worrying about the plait myths & you can sleep more soundly at night.
D66
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In that case why did she take the photo of the wind generated part? These myths cause a lot of needless distress and anxiety.
Tinseltoes
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Well said.My section A has them constantly and they are the same as pic. Theyre so hard to get out. I cut the last ones out.
HazellB
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I'm starting to understand why some people say it's nothing but bitch, bitch, bitch on here!
I posted that Lincs police are asking owners to watch out for plaits. They are, really. Not 'if' but REALLY. Starting your post with the word 'if' and including 'really' is bitchy and childish.
And some horse owners wonder why they are seen as snotty nosed idiots......
*hic*
village idiot :D
*sighs*
Here we go round the loop again.
Sadly so many hysterical idiots have phoned the police to say that little Merrylegs has been tagged for theft that they now believe it and spread it.
Not to worry, one of the sensible people from here who is in contact with the police will hopefully be able to put them right that there are NO recorded cases of tagged horses being stolen.
As for your comment on snotty nosed idiots: If the cap fits . . . "Snotty nosed" could imply childish and idiots believe everything they are told . . .
Kallibear
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My wind plait is better than your wind plait therefore my pony's going to be stolen first. So i'll keep you posted and let you know once he's gone so you can start your vigil. 
It might be worth taking a look at my thread to see the security measures you could take.
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=421040
It might be worth taking a look at my thread to see the security measures you could take.
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=421040
Tinypony
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Blimey, I think that's a bit of an over-reaction to my post. One work out of turn "if" and you call me bitchy and childish.
I could have said "as" instead of "if", but a lot of stuff that gets posted on these sort of threads is heresay, not first-hand knowledge, so I don't think the word "if" is that bad. Out of interest Hazelb, have you directed the police to this thread? They can be misled, just as we members of the public can be.
I am one of the people who took the trouble to contact the police, and I won't do it again because what's the point?
p.s. Hazelb, maybe you would do me the kindness of looking at some of my other recent posts? You might realise that there was no unpleasant intention behind the use of that offending word "if", and people tend not to think that my posts are bitchy and childish, and they tend not to feel that my posts warrant calling me a snotty nosed idiot.
I am one of the people who took the trouble to contact the police, and I won't do it again because what's the point?
p.s. Hazelb, maybe you would do me the kindness of looking at some of my other recent posts? You might realise that there was no unpleasant intention behind the use of that offending word "if", and people tend not to think that my posts are bitchy and childish, and they tend not to feel that my posts warrant calling me a snotty nosed idiot.
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Zebedee
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Sighs.....ok. I'll go through it one more time for the hard of thinking.
If you report what you think may be criminal activity to the police you will be given a log number. You will also be given generic advice on improving security & remaining alert.
This is what the police have to do to cover their owns backsides just in case a crime does subsequently take place. It does not mean that they actually think that your pony will be stolen.
Here's a suggestion. If you are genuinely worried that your horse may be stolen have it freeze marked & microchipped (if you haven't already). I wonder how many of those who are convinced that these wind plaits represent a real threat of a planned theft taking place follow that advice? Probably not very many, because it's much more fun to scare people with hysterical posts on here isn't it?
If your horse is already freezemarked & chipped, & your yard / field are secure then then short of camping out with your horse there isn't a lot more you can do. Worrying yourself sick over an urban myth (because that's all this is) isn't going to help you or the horse.
If you report what you think may be criminal activity to the police you will be given a log number. You will also be given generic advice on improving security & remaining alert.
This is what the police have to do to cover their owns backsides just in case a crime does subsequently take place. It does not mean that they actually think that your pony will be stolen.
Here's a suggestion. If you are genuinely worried that your horse may be stolen have it freeze marked & microchipped (if you haven't already). I wonder how many of those who are convinced that these wind plaits represent a real threat of a planned theft taking place follow that advice? Probably not very many, because it's much more fun to scare people with hysterical posts on here isn't it?
If your horse is already freezemarked & chipped, & your yard / field are secure then then short of camping out with your horse there isn't a lot more you can do. Worrying yourself sick over an urban myth (because that's all this is) isn't going to help you or the horse.
pixi
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hi not sure how to up load pics ,so look on my profile for pics of plaits in maine,found these a few months ago,these look quite man made infact the only way i could reconstruct these on my gelding was to twist 2 locks of hair together n knot at the bottom,now i know no person hade done this to the filly as she cant be caught shes wild n kicks out if you try to catch her ,they are wind knots definatly.no im not worried in anyway even thought shes a piebald gypsy filly .
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christi
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My wind plait is better than your wind plait therefore my pony's going to be stolen first. So i'll keep you posted and let you know once he's gone so you can start your vigil.
It might be worth taking a look at my thread to see the security measures you could take.
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=421040
I have to say . having owned horses for 33 years , None of my horses have Ever had this or anything like it in there manes .
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Tinypony
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I get them a lot in winter, but my Arab and my pony both have very long manes. I don't brush their manes too often either (which is why they are so long). I think if you were brushing them a few times a week these tangles probably wouldn't develop. I just work them out with some Cowboy Magic every now and then.
christi
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my horses mane is about 3.5 ft long and her tail is thick ( traditional gypsy ) and to the ground , and shes never had any of these tangles or whatever they are called .
pixi
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http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/fourums/picture.php?albumid=1259&pictureid=7147 wind plait not man made
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Kallibear
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My boy gets them every day. Their mane has to the right length and the right type of hair. My friends fell has a mane to the ground but it's thick and wirey and never gets wind tangles as it's too heavy. Tails rarely get the wind plaits for that reason. My lads mane is about 2.5ft long (after chopping it a bit ) and is very fine though thick. He develops them overnight. I never brush his mane except for shows but untangle the knots couple of times a week otherwise it gets to the stage where they need cut out.
) and is very fine though thick. He develops them overnight. I never brush his mane except for shows but untangle the knots couple of times a week otherwise it gets to the stage where they need cut out.
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christi
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my horses mane and tail , and never shes never had them . i must spend far too much time grooming
Kallibear
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My boy has a better mane than that (that's not 3.5ft long, sorry) although he gets the stragly bits chopped off every winter, but he lives out 24/7 unrugged. He also has poker straight mane - crimped manes like that don't tangle in the same way.
Tinypony
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Hard to believe I know, but my pony's mane is longer than that! Probably a bit thicker as well, but that's what happens if you don't brush it very often. The Arab manes seem quite prone to this, I've had two and both got them regularly. You know a lot of people say that Arabs don't get very long manes? Well, that's because they worry too much about brushing out the tangles. My boy had a very sparse mane when I got him, but the longest bits now reach right down his shoulder. Not looking forward to the next untangling session though!
christi
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no its not 3.5 ft now i know . it was until not long ago , only reason it looks Crimped is id had it plaited took it out that day ! i was not trying to make it a comp lol
but as i say in 33 years of owning horses none of mine have ever had these tangles etc .
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christi
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yeah bet its a job you can be doing without ! lol
Tinypony
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I think this is what causes some of her "wind tangles". The pony in question is the bay, the chesnut doesn't get a lot of mane because he's my sweetitch challenge. This doesn't show her mane very clearly, and it's even longer now!
HazellB
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I think you hade better read my original post in this thread and start getting that appology ready.
I said quite clearly that the police are wrongly spreading this rubbish. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT MYSELF!
Learn to read, eh?
*hic*
village idiot :D
With all this comment I've only just twigged that I may be a target. My hair is below bra strap length and I get them all the time, even overnight, if I don't use shedloads of conditioner.