H/W RID Youngster Dilemma- to sell ready to back/just backed ??

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Well I'm back in the saddle after 15months following my 3rd big spinal op (not horse realted injury). My first dilemma was whether to sell my 10yr old ISH mare or my homebred graded RID rising 4yr old filly ( I have neither the time nor energy to look after/ride 2 big mares). As I've been out hacking on my older mare for the past couple of weeks I think I've decided to keep her as I can only light hack from now on and she would be the most suitable for me.

Current dilemma do I advertise my RID filly as is or get someone to back her first? I have in the past always backed and brought on my own youngsters but I'm will need to ask a professional to get involved this time, due to me being an old crock now. My filly has been really well handled from birth, has had full tack on and been longreined without batting an eyelid.

So.....do I advertise her unbacked or backed and what would be the difference in asking price??

This bright bay filly has a super friendly laidback temperament, is good to handle, has over 9 1/2" quality bone and currently stands 16.1/16.2hh. They don't make many like this anymore so what should I ask for her?
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Thanks to all who have got this far.
 
Hi I'm looking for a RID to buy, to be honest I was looking for a backed horse and was also looking for a five year old but do let me know if you decide to sell.

I haven't a clue about prices for unbacked RIDs and as I don't have the experience to back a horse myself I'd have to incur the expense of getting it done so it would put me off I think.
 
I think if you could just get her sat on - a friend perhaps - you can at least sell her as lightly backed and ready to bring on. That would suit me (not that I want her!!) as I don't have the facilities to start from scratch but one ready to ride away would be fine.
 
Guess I'm trying to work out what would be best for the current market. Obviously the cost of getting a professional to back her would put up the asking price but then some people may prefer to back a youngster themselves if they have the experience to do so. I can't imagine she will need long with a professional as she is very accepting of new situations and has had the groundwork done. It's been a really hard decision to make as she was "the horse" for me but I have to be realistic and accept that she's got a lot more to offer than doing a bit of light hacking with me. I want to get her the best home possible and keep in touch with her new owner, so need to decide whether the investment in having her backed will give me a wider sales market so I can get her the perfect home.
 
Yes Clodagh that's a possibility. Trouble is would a potential buyer then want to see her ridden or would photos of her previously being ridden suffice?
 
Can you advertise her as both?

i.e. Give 2 prices one for the current unbacked state and add a line something like ... Can arrange to be professionally backed after purchase for XXX

I wouldn't buy something unbacked as I don't have the help, but I also don't know anyone who could do it for me, so I might consider the recommendation, but also the idea of how much it might cost to get her backed somewhere else would help make the decision.
 
i would get her backed for a few reasons.

one, she will command a higher price backed.

two, you are opening up the market to more buyers if they don't have to do the initial sit on.

three, you can rest easy in your mind that she has been backed sympathetically and not worry about her being done roughly.

i did the same as you- my boy was used to tack, long reining and i had laid across him but couldn't go any further as had no helper and no school.

he went off to school last week and is already hacking out like he has done it for years- the rider said he was very easy to do as he was so well prepared!
 
If it's any help, I'm selling this year's 2 yo RID geldings (so rising 3) for £3,000-3,500 depending on size/quality - and those that aren't sold by early spring will be backed and sold as ridden away and hacking quietly for £5,000+

Your filly is an RID mare so has her breeding value as well - but with the market as it is, I would get her well-backed which will open up your market. I say this as I find a LOT of people wanting to buy an RID mare want to ride her - with a view to breeding later. Breeders will usually pay less if just interested in a breeding prospect - unless she's exceptional quality and bloodlines that are 'in demand'.

But people who are looking for a mare with FUTURE breeding prospects will - 9 times out of 10 - want them backed and able to be tried under saddle. Having to get one backed themselves adds too much to the uncertainty - will I be able to ride her once backed, will I like her etc. etc.

I would send her to a good yard who KNOWS IDs - and is good with mares. Even well-handled mares can be a bit quirky when it comes to backing - and some trainers just don't understand IDs. They tend to assume they'll be 'easy' - and rush them a bit - and let's face it, a CROSS ID has the power to send an unsympathetic jockey skywards!

I would expect a well-backed, going quietly 4 year old RID mare to be £1,500 more than the same mare before backing. To get her WELL-backed and ridden away shouldn't cost more than £1,000-1200 (for 8 weeks). It would be a good idea to advertise her WHILE she is being backed so she can be tried at the trainer's yard when she's being ridden everyday - selling newly backed youngsters takes a bit of extra care to ensure you don't kill prospective purchasers who just aren't CAPABLE of riding a youngster.

If you'd like to PM me with her breeding, a decent pic, and - if you have it - her grading score - I could give you a much better idea of what you should be asking for her.
 
Thanks for your replies. There is a training/breaking yard just down the road from me. I had wondered if it would work if I lead her down there for a "lesson" each day. As she lives out the walk back home would be a chance to cool off. I could then be involved in my filly's backing process and make sure she wasn't being pushed too hard. I haven't approached the yard yet re this idea but my daughter has had lessons there on her pony and the woman who runs it is very capable and has a good reputation. I've pretty much got my youngster to the stage of being sat on so if all went well I think she'd be backed very quickly. Not sure if this is something a professional yard would consider doing.

Thanks Janet will pm you with a photo and details.
 
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