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YellowBoots

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I'm sick. I've had enough of them.

I have two terriers and two spaniels. They're all boys and all neutered.

They keep pissing all over the house and one dog has started crapping wherever he wants in the house too.

They get walked for an hour on the morning and a shorter walk on a night. I have RA so have to pay someone to walk them on a morning for me.

I can't cope with cleaning up behind them any more. My house stinks and they'd pissed enough in the kitchen to rot the waste water pipe.

Just been in the shower and came down to a pile of crap on my hall carpet. As well as the messing, they keep waking me up at 4am ish. I've had them all checked and there's no reason for any of it. I could honestly just sit and cry.
 
That's very naughty of your boys!
Firstly, is the dog walker actually taking them out for an hour? Do they do their business on their walks?
Do they have free range of your house or are they/can they be shut in the utility for example? (dogs don't like making a mess where they 'have to be' - same goes for crating. If you are not around - work/shower/asleep/shopping, crate them.
Do they have access to a garden?
How old are they? Have they ever been housetrained and now have reverted?

I hope you can find a workable solution.
Hugs. Hate cleaning up after dogs myself!!
 
Honestly? I don't think they're getting enough exercise/stimulation, a tired dog is a happy dog imho!

I had 4 months of what you're having when I rehomed mine thanks to separation anxiety (and me feeding him bones - he can't stomach marrow) but now he has been accident free for nearly a month and its bliss. You need to really clean the house well to remove any smells of wee, as they will keep marking ime until it no longer smells like a dog toilet. Pets at home do dog neutraliser cleaners (wash and get off its called). Then you need to figure out a way for them to get more exercise, if thats not possible is there anyway they could be in an outdoor run for the daytime?
 
If you are having difficulty in exercising all of your dogs, it may be wise to consider re-homing the more boisterous ones - and perhaps just keep the smaller terriers.
 
As mentioned, you need to actually work at training them not to go in the house and they sound like they might need a bit more mental and physical stimulation.

Also, you sound stressed. That might also be a contributing factor to them going in the house if it is a stressful place to be.

I would seriously consider rehoming some if not all of them if you are not coping (although it's a crap time of the year to do this) or get some help in, in the form of a trainer or a (better) dog walker.
 
Thanks!

They're not big dogs (two king charles spaniels and two yorkies.) The dog walker is very good and does walk them for the full hour. They do 'go' on walks.

Yes, they were all fully house trained. They've just gradually started messing. They get let out into the garden every couple of hours. It's a big garden, so they have lots of room to play (in addition to the walks.)

After the burst pipe, I had a cleaning company in to clean the entire house. They used an enzyme cleaner to remove the smells but it didn't stop the dogs.

The dogs are only allowed in the kitchen and living room (when I'm in.). They don't get upstairs.

I did think about crates but I don't have room for them. (And I don't walk so well some days and I'm scared of falling on them. :o)

Thank you for your help.
 
OK, Yorkies are not great dogs to toilet train. They have tiny bladders.
They're all elderly, so more likely to leak from one orifice or the other :o
Might be worth checking them all out with the vet, just a general check-up if nothing else but they could be suffering incontinence due to age or UTIs etc.

Very, very few dogs are ever 'fully trained' - people competing at world level with super talented dogs, still have to train their dogs every day. My dog often tells me he has no idea what 'sit' means.

If you want to stop accidents, you need to WATCH them and get them out ASAP, otherwise you'll never stop it. You also have to be aware of their access to food and water. If they are drinking all the time, eating lots, small dogs, you need to be aware of when and where they might go. I've been flamed on here for advising restriction (NOT WITHDRAWL) of water....but some dogs drink for fun, obsessively, they like splashy things, not because they are thirsty and then of course, it has to come out the other end.
 
CaveCanem said:
I've been flamed on here for advising restriction (NOT WITHDRAWL) of water....but some dogs drink for fun, obsessively, they like splashy things, not because they are thirsty and then of course, it has to come out the other end.
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This. This has improved my dog no end. His bowl has water in most of the time, but isn't as full as it used to be. He drinks it dry on occasion now - once a day, or once every other day - but having seen him when visiting others he really does seem to drink for fun. In fact, not topping up his water all the time, and him not weeing happened almost instantaneously :)
 
I know the feeling! Not quite the same but we have a cavalier puppy at the moment and no amount of persistence is getting her trained! Its getting tedious! The other two were house trained in under 4 days. We're now approaching 4 weeks with puppy and although shes cut down significantly on accidents, they're still far more frequent than we'd want!

I don't have the answer but just stick in there :)
 
agree with the others re the exercise, do you have a garden with an area sectioned off specifically for the dogs to do their business in? Their sizes it doesn't need to be a big space just easily cleanable and you have to keep on top of it especially if you can't give them the exercise that they need.

Don't envy you the crapping if they currently have access to the whole house restrict it at least then it will be easier to keep clean.

Given their ages and the time of year your only option if you go down the rehoming route might be a final trip to the vets :(
 
Thank you.

I did wonder about contnance problems and had them all checked. Vet gave them a clean bill of health and said that wasn't the problem.

They have access to a large garden. It's half grass/half paved and it's cleaned every day. (Or every other day if I'm having a bad spell.)

They're only allowed in the kitchen and living room.

By fully house trained I meant that they had all learned to tell me when they wanted to go out and we had no messes.

I will try restricting the water. My youngest dog drinks for fun so that might help things.

Not sure how much more exercise they need- they're getting 1.5 hours every day, plus time in the garden. My vet says that should be more than enough. Do you think they need more?

Thank you.
 
I think if you start restricting the water you might find if the youngest dog stops drinking so much they will stop weeing, then the others will as there is no need to scent mark.

I got mine one of these bowls cos he's a messy animal, but works well to stop splashing and takes the enjoyment aspect out of drinking I think - don't know if that would help

http://www.petsathome.com/shop/travel-safe-water-bowl-for-dogs-by-road-refresher-13691
 
Agree with what's been said about Yorkies having small bladders.

Bit far fetched but if you're having trouble, you could look into litter training? All you need is a tray and some dog litter. I've never met anyone who's used it but it seems to be useful for smaller dogs who need to go out more.
 
If you do decide you cant cope with all of your dogs I just wanted to say PTS isn't your only option. Not sure what area you're in but I wouldn't have any problems rehoming cavaliers or yorkies at that kind of age (work at a rescue centre), infact we'd probably have a queue for them. I wouldn't bother with the likes of an RSPCA centre, but there are other rescues that could help you rehome/ home check etc.

Can you limit the dogs to the kitchen, or another small area like a utility room? Might be the next best thing to crating and encourage the dogs to hold for longer.
 
If you're not wanting to pts or re-home then I'd try a few things like restricting water at night - obviously only to be done if a vet has ruled there is no underlying issue to cause incontinence/over drinking etc!
Also what and when are you feeding them and how often? - have you changed their diet? Feeding in the morning I find is always better especially if they are walked then so they empty their gut while out and about.
Personally I think they really should have another longer walk in the evening so they are tired and sleep through the night - you say they are walked for an hour - is that on the lead walking or off the lead?, are you sure the walker is actually walking them or sitting in the park with a book!!:D

Failing that maybe some more mental stimulation for them - games/training/toys like stuffed kongs/bones etc help keep them busy, and don't just turf them out in the garden to amuse themselves as more often than not they won't do anything - they need interaction so have some fun with them as it will help burn off some energy.

I'd also restrict access to the rest of the house and just keep them in the kitchen for the mo - basically start again from scratch with the toilet training like you would with a puppy as they do sometimes lapse and get lazy as they get older, and sometimes for attention too, not to mention the bad weather - mine hate going out to poop in the rain!!!:D
 
I'd say they are having plenty of exercise for toy dogs. Far more than most cavs/ yorkies. What food are they on? If they are on good quality food they shouldn't be pooing more than twice a day.
 
Thank you.

They get Wainwrights (not sure if I'm spelling that right) trays from pets at home. The youngest spaniel has been stealing from the bin though and now has an upset tummy. They get fed at about 10am and have another tiny feed at about 6pm. (They wouldn't eat everything in one sitting and were all a bit too thin.)

Dog walker is definitely walking them. I've met up with her a few times when I've been out in the car. The walks are a mix of on and off lead. The longer walk can't be on a night because she works afternoons. I could have a look for someone else, but I trust her and we get on well.
 
Fab advice, and i personally would go back to basics and i would start with confining them to the kitchen, if you are with them and they are in your eye sight let them be with you if not put them back in the kitchen (even if you pop to the loo)
I would introduce some crates (2 may crate togehter with such little dogs) but I would certainly be crating 2 and change this around till you find the main culprit. always crate the ones you chose to crate when you leave the house/for bed. Leave a radio on in the kitchen and put a black out blind up incase the break of dawn makes them think out time/toilet time) and a radio on and when you are in let them out as frequent as possible (never just leave the door open) have a set time to go and open the door and coax them out. change feed tims to breakfast and no more and as suggesed limit water for over night.
 
YellowBoots said:
I'm sick. I've had enough of them.

I have two terriers and two spaniels. They're all boys and all neutered.

They keep pissing all over the house and one dog has started crapping wherever he wants in the house too.

They get walked for an hour on the morning and a shorter walk on a night. I have RA so have to pay someone to walk them on a morning for me.

I can't cope with cleaning up behind them any more. My house stinks and they'd pissed enough in the kitchen to rot the waste water pipe.

Just been in the shower and came down to a pile of crap on my hall carpet. As well as the messing, they keep waking me up at 4am ish. I've had them all checked and there's no reason for any of it. I could honestly just sit and cry.
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I too think they are not getting enough walking so from the walk in the morning they get nothing till a little walk in evening??:confused:


If you have RA can you not get assistance allowance.

They need a good walk at lunch time and a decent walk later.


What time do you feed?? if you feed early they will want to go early eve or during the night. Ours gets his at 9pm evening so he gets through the night. Have they got a dog flap?? Can you not leave them in a room with tiles over night??
Have they go access to biscuit all day?? if so this could be the problem eat more do more. I would feed at 8 or 9pm

Dog cages are b brilliant we used one on the dog at the beginning and one of the cats who did the same thing all over helped allot

Why don't you either home home 2 and keep too
rehome them all and start again
 
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I think they're getting plenty of exercise :confused: I suggest there's another reason they're messing in the house. You say it started and is gradually increasing-was there an event that upset them? I would crate train and leave them in the crate overnight, personally. If they're allowed out every couple of hours, there's no reason for them to be messing in the house.
 
sorry if im repeating anything as havent read all the replies.

did i read that they are between 8 and 12? I feel really sorry for them tbh, its unfortunate you’ve had enough of them but thats dogs for you.

I bet money one of the older ones has got a bit unreliable in the toilet department, had an accident and then the others have smelled this and followed suit. Vet checks for all and take advice from them, there could be urine infections rumbling on also. Also agree with confining them to a smaller area, no access to the bin for a start;) and if they wont eat all you give them, tough. It sounds like they are being fussy and believe if they are hungry they will eat. Leave the food down for 10 mins and then take it away.
 
I would agree with the above. I bet one of them has a toilet problem (take to the vet) and the rest are following suit.

My 2 year old lab who'd been clean for months started weeing and pooing again when the puppy came - well if he can, why can't i!
 
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