Hairy numnahs?

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Hi everyone!

Not been on for a while, but I'm doing a bit of market research and thought this would be a great place to start!

As we all know, cleaning saddlecloths can be a nightmare with all the hair that tends to get stuck on them! They never come out hair free, plus the OH usually won't let us put them in the washing machine as it clogs them and the next wash load usually gets covered in hair!
So, would people be interested in a formula wash that got rid of 100% hairs, not only on the saddlecloth, but also from inside your washing machine?

A half load with the formula would do 1 s/cloth or 2 numnahs.
A full load with the formula would do 2-3 s/cloths or 4 numnah's

If this is something you might use, can I ask how much you would pay for the forumla wash liquid?

Any responses would be much appreciated! :)
 
royal said:
So, would people be interested in a formula wash that got rid of 100% hairs, not only on the saddlecloth, but also from inside your washing machine?
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royal said:
A half load with the formula would do 1 s/cloth or 2 numnahs.
A full load with the formula would do 2-3 s/cloths or 4 numnah's

If this is something you might use, can I ask how much you would pay for the forumla wash liquid?
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It would depend on how much formula would need to be used per wash, and thus how long each bottle would last. If it would be like a fabric conditioner amount required, the bottle 1 litre and last say 30-40 washes, then I would say around £7-£10? The price would also be judged on how effective the product is, and if it really does remove hairs 100% from both saddle cloth and machine.
 
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

It would be more in terms of one bottle of wash lasting either 1 full load or 2 half loads, which would do the following amount of either numnahs or s/cloths.

A half load with the formula would do 1 s/cloth or 2 numnahs.
A full load with the formula would do 2-3 s/cloths or 4 numnah's

And yes, it would absolutely 100% get rid of hairs from both s/cloth and machine.
 
Sorry no help as to price, but I would question where do the hairs go if they are neither on the saddle cloth or in the washing machine! Does the formula make them disappear :)
 
I can see this being beneficial if there are a lot of numnahs/saddle cloths that need washing in one go, but I only wash mine as and when they need it, probably every couple of weeks really, and even then they're not that hairy, so I don't think it would be worth me having such a product.

Would it work on dog hair as well? My dog is husky x rottweiller and moults year round - I have a skin condition which her hair seems to irritate (although my GP is convinced it's not an allergy!) so if something like this was available to use on her bedding then it would save me the job of scrubbing my washing machine out each time I wash her bed!
 
CatStew said:
I can see this being beneficial if there are a lot of numnahs/saddle cloths that need washing in one go, but I only wash mine as and when they need it, probably every couple of weeks really, so I don't think it would be worth me having such a product.

Would it work on dog hair as well? My dog is husky x rottweiller and moults year round - I have a skin condition which her hair seems to irritate (although my GP is convinced it's not an allergy!) so if something like this was available to use on her bedding then it would save me the job of scrubbing my washing machine out each time I wash her bed!
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Thanks for the post! Yes, it would most definitely work on dog/pet hair!
 
royal said:
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

It would be more in terms of one bottle of wash lasting either 1 full load or 2 half loads, which would do the following amount of either numnahs or s/cloths.

A half load with the formula would do 1 s/cloth or 2 numnahs.
A full load with the formula would do 2-3 s/cloths or 4 numnah's

And yes, it would absolutely 100% get rid of hairs from both s/cloth and machine.
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So how many ml would the bottle be??
 
Logically the only way to completely disappear the hair is to dissolve it chemically. Annoying though hairly numnahs are I would not personally want to put a chemical like that in my wash. Not only because of the damage it would inevitably do to any other natural fiber - like sheepskin wihch is only sheep hair at the end of the day - but also the damage residue might do to domestic items. I would also wonder what the water companies might think about something like that entering the drainage system - although they may prefer it to some of the other stuff down there!
 
Shay said:
Logically the only way to completely disappear the hair is to dissolve it chemically. Annoying though hairly numnahs are I would not personally want to put a chemical like that in my wash. Not only because of the damage it would inevitably do to any other natural fiber - like sheepskin wihch is only sheep hair at the end of the day - but also the damage residue might do to domestic items. I would also wonder what the water companies might think about something like that entering the drainage system - although they may prefer it to some of the other stuff down there!
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The formulation does not pose any risk to the washing machine or suitably spec'd product which would have to be washed separately to other non spec'd product. Once diluted in the wash its perfectly safe to enter the drainage system. You would not be able to market a harmful chemical to consumers. This is a consumer product suitable for use in a domestic washing machine as opposed to an industrial item.
 
POLLDARK said:
I put numnahs, fleeces, dog bedding etc into old single duvet covers & tie it shut. No hair in the washing machine then.
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I've done this too Polldark, but there is always hair left on the actual item :(

Thanks to everyone for replies so far!

More idea's of guide price would be appreciated!
 
Yes it will work on unprinted polyester fleece (not on wool based products as obviously that is a type of hair! :D)

However, it would need to go in a 90 degree wash, therefore this could possibly affect colour fastness and print on non-approved product.

The company that is researching this is developing it as part of a large range of product with it ie: saddlecloths, numnahs, bandages, rugs, fleece blankets, grooming brushes etc.
 
I've found putting a nozzle on the Hoover and vacuuming fleeces/numnahs etc a good way of getting rid of most of the surface hair before washing, I would be concerned about a product that is strong enough to dissolve hair then being in contact with my horses skin after its washed, as most washing liquids seem to leave some kind of scent/residue, and can cause allergic reactions :-/
 
I just brush my saddle cloths off with my rubber oster brush straight after I take them off my horse which gets 95% off, then it goes inside a wash bag designed for the job (cost me £10) and the 5% left shake off when the articles clean... Both brush and bag are re-useable and no chemicals, harmful or otherwise are going in the drain. ;)
 
Mansel said:
I've found putting a nozzle on the Hoover and vacuuming fleeces/numnahs etc a good way of getting rid of most of the surface hair before washing, I would be concerned about a product that is strong enough to dissolve hair then being in contact with my horses skin after its washed, as most washing liquids seem to leave some kind of scent/residue, and can cause allergic reactions :-/
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I do understand where your coming from.

The company is a professional established firm that has carried out independent testing, and obviously no company can market and sell a product as safe if it isn't!
 
If you wanted people to use this each time they washed a numnah then I've any more than £2 per item otherwise it would be just as easy to send it to a professional cleaning company.
 
Chops said:
If you wanted people to use this each time they washed a numnah then I've any more than £2 per item otherwise it would be just as easy to send it to a professional cleaning company.
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So some people have suggested £7-10 for a bottle which will do up to 4 numnahs so about £1.75 per numnah would not be unreasonable?
 
I appreciate that some might find this product useful but I too am a fan of vacuuming and using a mild soap powder on such items.

I personally wouldn't pay £7 - 10, there is the convenience but I am keen that I wash any horse wear with mild soapflakes to avoid any irritation.
 
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I would have said that having to washa t 90 degrees will put many people off. Cotton numnah's would have accelerated fading and I am pretty sure it would not be a good idea to wash fleeces at that temp.
 
Thanks for the input. I really do appreciate everyone's thoughts!

This is not my product nor my company. And we are not trying to sell the product at the moment as it is still in (final) development stage.

But this kind of market research is exactly what is needed for what could be an extremely useful product for some people.

As a horse owner myself, I do wonder if the people that have said they use a brush etc to clean them have say tb's or the more finely haired horse? Rather than say a native/traditional etc?

My horse is an ISH x connie and she gets really hairy and moults for England in the spring. There is just no way I can get the hair off her numnah's whether by washing/brushing/vacumming or blasting with a ray gun! :D

Any more thoughts are always welcome!

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