Halling ex-racehorse - finally, a how much?

Isn't this horse in Quwait, or has he been brought back now?

No idea what I would pay, I paid £1200 for my ex racer but she had clean legs and a super attitude. I hope you get him Kit :)
 
Can you ask the owners what they are looking for - and see how you feel - if you go in miles to low - they could be offended and not give you a 2nd chance or if you go in too high they will snap your hand off and you will always wonder.

If I did not own little lad - and he is an accident prone ex racer, fired in both front legs I would pay upto £5k without hesitation - why because we have a connection, you cant help but be happy riding him and he would carve his heart out and give it to you on a plate.
 
Someone once told me a horse is worth what you're willing to pay. And I couldn't agree more!

Given you know him, love him and want him you will probably pay over the odds for him.

My old working pupil who sold her wonderful failed 9-y-o racehorse for £2k inc tack. He was safe, sensible with a proven track record and had won pony club opens as well as plus 70% at prelim, jumped BN disco tracks.

He had been pin fired and had very flat feet but was tough and sound.

I think £1k would please the owner and you'd have a bargain. I've followed your story all along, I think he's a cracker! Good luck
 
Not followed your previous posts but he looks to be a nice horse. Have to agree with some of the comments about there being plenty of racers about however if you believe he is the one and aren't so bothered about the jumping side i think i'd snap him up. Personally i would be concerned about his hind until i had had an all clear from the vets but thats just because i had major soundness issues with my previous TB and even though my current exracer was pittance considering she has previously evented i splashed out on having her legs and feet checked but thats just me. I would say 1k or under for price mark due to it being your own work from what ive gathered and no competition experience. Mine was only advertised at £1700 with a reasonable BE record however she is 12 and i now compete showing and dressage.

I hope you manage to secure him he looks devine :)
 
I paid 1600 for my ex racer who had bsja points, be points and will do an 70% unaff prelim. Manners to burn in every respect.
 
Just loved him at the first picture, and more so each picture on, until the video, which had me reaching for the virtual cheque book immediately! He is absolutely cracking, whatever his little quirks, and I really hope you get him. I would be paying whatever was required - but then I was never very sensible where horses are concerned. I had an opinionated, late gelded horse, with looks and paces to die for. He was also a "Not Today" horse - utterly maddening - but only showjumping. Went like a stag across a country. When he was SJing, and had a "Lets Go For It" day, again he would clear anything, and it made up for when he didn't. Do hope it all turns out good for you and him. "What's for you 'ill not go by you" as my granny used to say!
 
Kit- Forgive me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I saw him out dragging last season saying no.
A jump yard might buy him but they'd sell him again pretty quick I expect if I'm thinking of the right horse. He absolutely refused to follow the field over a simple rail despite us being in full flow with plenty to follow and ridden by someone I know is a very good jockey. Am I talking a load of nonsense or is it the right horse?

If it is the right chap he is absolutely stunning in the flesh. I said so to the girl riding him (who I know a little bit). However, if that is how he says no then I think 2.5k is probably a bit much.
 
I would expect prices at Doncaster to be considerably higher than at Ascot but would not agree with the pricing of upto 10K. I saw a really nice big chaser out of Henrietta Knights yard, fit up, with a record and a stunning looking horse. He went for just under the 5K mark and was clearly "known". What also surprised me at Ascot was how everyone really did seem to know each other (trainers etc) and the guy I was with (again a trainer) was very very sharp eyed. I like to think I am pretty hot on picking up stuff but he was much quicker than I was (and right!)

Just to reiterate.. I would ask for advice from an independant source as none of us can agree and are not experts, but Brightwells last sale prices coupled with something like Heros should really add back up so you know what this boy is worth on the open market.

And funny about the video, that didn't impress me as I thought it looked like he could not be bothered at times. I would have put it down to being really green so not established with his jumping.

He is a very good looking horse and well put together but as the others said, his breeding doesn't count for so much as he is gelded.

Good luck I am keeping my fingers tightly crossed!
 
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I've never paid over £1k for any ex-racer I have bought.
They have all come direct from trainers, no additional training like this chap.
Dustry cost me £675 as a 3yr old, and he was the cheapest, but he was a colt and so less desirable.

The throwing the towel in would concern me, esp as he has done it with you already. It would have been ideal if you could have got him, worked only on the flat for 6-12months then began the jumping afresh to try and help him forget what he has unfortunately already learnt.

I tried to re-school Jack, who had raced & P2P, but was sold as he had learnt to refuse to start. The one and only time I took him XC, like your chap he flew some fences, fantastic shape and scope, then just flat out refused others, and there literally is NOTHING you can do.

If you want him for non jumping activities then I would get him, and offer £500 initially. Anchor your first bid low, that changes the mental perspective of the seller, and psychologically makes them question his value, then work your way up to a price both are happy with. If you start low you will 9 times out of 10 get him cheaper than if you go in with a reasonable offer first off. It's human nature to 'anchor' later numerical values to the first number they hear.

Good luck I really hope you get him, he looks cute and like he could be a very useful little dressage horse if nothing else
 
I used to ride out 2 different liver chestnut Halling geldings last year, and both of them were extremely quirky. Very good moving, good looking horses, but not a genuine bone in either of them I have to say! Certainly enough to put me off buying one myself!!

TBH even on the open market being sold as a racehorse I think his value is very limited as he has absolutely no recent form and it doesn't matter how well he is bred - he is a gelding. Horses are making absolutely no money at Ascot at the moment unless they have current form, or are nice P2P schoolmasters. If you went off his sale-ring value I think you'd be perfectly well in your rights to offer under £1000.
 
Having looked back at your pics I am almost convinced the hunting one is at Lark Hall and he is the horse I am thinking of. with that attitude to his jumping I'd say no more than a grand. I couldn't be doing with that on a regular basis. Obviously you love him to bits but if he downs tools like that more than once a year he is going to drive anyone batty that wants to jump leaving him saleable just for dressage. I know the owner could get lucky and any other buyer besides you could try him when he is feeling helpful but knowing what you know (which is handy) I think you should be able to talk them down for 2.5K

Good luck. He's a smashing chap :)
 
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