Happy Hoof

My Horse didn't get fresh, we was constantly getting bruised soles on it though.

Despite the fact it is approved by the Laminitics trust, it actually has quite a high sugar content, this may be why your Horse is fresh. I switched to Fast Fibre and never had an issue with feet after, far less sugar!
 
Yes - you're probably right......I honestly thought I was doing the right thing putting him on it - he's gone a bit bonkers lately - the only thing I can think of is the change of feed. I thought it was a super safe product.....hmm.
 
littleshetland said:
Yes - you're probably right......I honestly thought I was doing the right thing putting him on it - he's gone a bit bonkers lately - the only thing I can think of is the change of feed. I thought it was a super safe product.....hmm.
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I did also, plus she adored it. But it wasn't until I saw some posts on here that compared the sugar content in low cal feeds that I realized just how much sugar content was in it.
 
littleshetland said:
Has anyone noticed their horse/pony getting a bit fresh when fed 'Happy Hoof'?
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Erm Yes Happy Hoof blew my geldings head off - FRESH that is understatement spooking - jumping at anything - trying to bronc and bronking the lot, friends pony did the same, and trainers clients horse was unreadable on it she was giving 1 scoop each feed where I was giving 1/2.

Heard soooo many stories of horses going bonkers on it.
 
LaurenBay said:
My Horse didn't get fresh, we was constantly getting bruised soles on it though.

Despite the fact it is approved by the Laminitics trust, it actually has quite a high sugar content, this may be why your Horse is fresh. I switched to Fast Fibre and never had an issue with feet after, far less sugar!
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Happy Hoof is not high in sugar - 5%. Dengie hi-fi Lite is 7.5%! I wouldn't think of Fast fibre as a chaff, so I wouldn't be replacing HH with FF; it would be an addition for me.

I have fed HH for years, and have never found it to make my horses fresh or spooky.
 
JennBags said:
Happy Hoof is not high in sugar - 5%. Dengie hi-fi Lite is 7.5%! I wouldn't think of Fast fibre as a chaff, so I wouldn't be replacing HH with FF; it would be an addition for me.

I have fed HH for years, and have never found it to make my horses fresh or spooky.
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The molasses free Happy Hoof is even lower. 2%.
 
My section a was fed HH up until a month ago when he just flat out refused to eat it. He was very sharp, spooky & a little unpredictable. Changed him onto fast fibre & you would honestly think he was a different pony. He seems much more chilled.
 
How interesting! I've fed my boy molassed products before, and not really had any behavoural problems - but he's been on the Happy hoof for a couple of weeks now....and I now suppose that this is whats causing the change in him - spooky and sharp - he's not usually like this at all!
 
I've had three of my horses on it at various points, and not a single one reacted adversely. The sugar content, as someone pointed out above, is actually very low, so I can't see that being the problem. Every horse reacts differently, I guess!
 
Its horrible stuff!

Ingredients:

Nutritionally improved straw, Chopped straw, Wheatfeed, Dry lucerne, Low sugar molglo, Oatfeed, Ricebran, Grass nuts, Calcium carbonate, Vegetable oil, Soya oil, Vitamins and minerals, Calcined magnesite, Dried spearmint 0.25%, Garlic 0.25%, Salt.
 
Leo Walker said:
Its horrible stuff!

Ingredients:

Nutritionally improved straw, Chopped straw, Wheatfeed, Dry lucerne, Low sugar molglo, Oatfeed, Ricebran, Grass nuts, Calcium carbonate, Vegetable oil, Soya oil, Vitamins and minerals, Calcined magnesite, Dried spearmint 0.25%, Garlic 0.25%, Salt.
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Serious question, what's horrible about those ingredients?
 
I'm liking Topchop Zero as my current basic chaff. Horse seems to enjoy it but does eat her haylage first now that I feed the chaff on it's own in a separate bucket. When I had a balancer in with the chaff she ate it up straight away.
 
I'm using countrywide natural fibres chaff at the moment - mix of grass, straw and a little bit of dried mint. More palatable than the honeychop plain straw chaff for mine and cheaper than agrobs leichtgenuss chaff which is also dried grass/straw/herbs but more than twice as expensive per bag (although the bags are slightly bigger) both of those chaffs are alfalfa and molasses free :)
 
JennBags said:
Serious question, what's horrible about those ingredients?
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shamelssly copied from the Honey chop website:

Nutritionally Improved Straw (NIS) is produced from cereal straw, (usually wheat). The straw is ground and milled then mixed with sodium hydroxide which helps to breakdown the fibre structure and the plant cell walls. Digestibility is enhanced and nutritional value is increased. This all sounds very good but in short Sodium hydroxide (NaOH) is most definatley not a natural product, it does dissociate in the gut and act as a buffer in ruminants so it is ok for horses; but we will let you decided on whether you want to use it or not!
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Its not something I ever want my horse eating. Moglo is molasses under another name. Things like oatfeed and rice bran are hidden in there. And while I feed pink mash, that is soya hulls. Soya oil can send horses off their rockers, and just generally isnt great for anything other than weight gain.

I feed Agrobs or similar plain grass chaff. I've moved away from anything that has a huge list of ingredients
 
Leo Walker said:
shamelssly copied from the Honey chop website:



Its not something I ever want my horse eating. Moglo is molasses under another name. Things like oatfeed and rice bran are hidden in there. And while I feed pink mash, that is soya hulls. Soya oil can send horses off their rockers, and just generally isnt great for anything other than weight gain.

I feed Agrobs or similar plain grass chaff. I've moved away from anything that has a huge list of ingredients
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Thanks for the explanation, sounds like it's more personal choice than the ingredients being horrible then :)
 
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