Harassment by the antis - anyone ever heard of this?

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A person in my village told me that one day the antis used their own padlocks to lock all the gates, making it really difficult to move vehicles and horses? Is this something they really do and have any of you experienced this problem first hand?
 
Not had experience of being locked in before going hunting but my hunt got locked in a field a couple of weeks ago when out visiting another hunt. The antis didn't think about what would happen to the hounds if the huntsman couldn't get to them; never mind if they disappear, get lost in strange country or get run over because there's nobody with them. F*cktards.
 
Thats crazy! Never heard of that before either.. Though, its not the most effective method of stopping a hunt as all you need is some really strong bolt cutter things lol.

I have no respect for the "antis" at all, after watching one of them drive their range rover at my friends horse (narrowly missing my own) during a hunt and breaking its leg so it had to be put down, i question their "animal loving" morals...
 
Unfortunately this isn't the only braindead 'tactic' that has been employed by self-styled hunt saboteurs. There has been a long record pre-ban of anti-hunting activists stealing or releasing hounds and horses from hunt premises and leaving them to wander the roads; graffiti has been daubed on property, paint stripper poured on vehicles and a website I stumbled across and run by hunt sabs in Surrey listed addresses of people who just happened to be indirectly linked with hunting including parents of huntsmen and pub landlords who had hosted meets.

Other nasty tactics have included desecration of graves, attempting to exhume the Duke of Beaufort and smashing the headstone of John Peel's grave.

Most serious of all they attempt to wrest control of the pack from the huntsman using recordings of hunting horn calls. The Fitzwilliam led the way by obtaining an injunction against a saboteur using a defence known as 'trespass of goods' - this has led other hunts including the Portman to follow suit.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...n-by-blowing-horns-and-hallooing-1504580.html

In the interests of balance I should point out that the pro-hunting side are not always squeaky clean and no matter what side of the debate you come from I abhor violence and intimidation over an issue, which on the grand scale of things is pretty trivial. To date three people from both sides of the divide have died in direct action and for me that is three too many.
 
We went to a hunt ball years ago and all the 4x4's at the hotel were sprayed with paint stripper. While we were at another function, end of season i think, the hotel got a phone call (presumably from the antis) to say the kennels were on fire!!! We've had tyres slashed out whilst we've been hunting, brakes tampered with on trailers etc.
I can remember being out years ago on a 13.2 pony and being confronted by people in balaclavas and baseball bats with pepper sprays spraying in horses and hounds faces! Animal lovers - my f**king arse!!!
 
I nearly forgot that on a regular basis the antis would phone the radio station and claim they had left a bomb under the car of one of the local hunt masters.

Not animal lovers for sure but you could probably class them as people haters.
 
I was out with a bloodhound pack, on a sunday, when i was younger. A load of protesters turned up at the meet. We tried to explain we where a bloodhound pack but they would not listen. Anyway we continued with the meet and just before we set off one of the antis ran up to Lucy and went to hit her over the bum with his plackard. Lucy saw him comming and double barrold him across the road. :D I laughed and rode off. I was lucky Lucy wasn't hurt but i have known horses and hounds killed in the name of animal rights :( :mad: One lot of antis actualy stood and laughed while a poor girls horse was shot due to a broken leg caused by a wire they had pulled across the path. :(
People haters they are, Animal lovers they are not.
 
As someone who has hunted in Surrey (where it seems to be a problem :( ) - we've also had piano wire strung over bridleways before hunt meets - which was found by an innocent horse riding who happened to brave a hack the night before a hunt meet! They put it at the right height that a normal walker wouldn't notice it - you'd have to be on a horse!

Also, they used to booby trap fences, although I haven't experienced this!

And they bite. Yes, grown adults (who lecture to students at Brighton University, or thereabouts!) bite other humans as if they were five.
Fortunatly, I think she was arrested for it! But sadly, actually catching and charging the buggers is a rare affair!
 
A friend horse had his bit ripped through his mouth by an anti grabbing the rein as he trot (or cantered not certain) past the anti. The anti feel, the rider fell, the horse spun on the spot and had a 1 1/2 inch tear in his cheek.

Lou x
 
January 1993 - 5 police officers injured and 25 arrests of hunt saboteurs in Essex
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...is-increasing-peter-dunn-reports-1474504.html

November 1993 - injunctions for the Fitzwilliam and Portman - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...n-by-blowing-horns-and-hallooing-1504580.html

March 1994 - Saboteurs armed with fencing stakes hospitalise four members of the Four Burrow hunt
http://www.huntinginquiry.gov.uk/evidence/hunts/fourburrow.htm

November 1994 - Saboteurs charged with aggravated trespass following at incident at the Woodland Pytchley Hunt
http://www.chaos.org.uk/~maureen/pr1b.html

December 1996 - saboteur arrested after causing a horse to fall onto the master, Whipper in also arrested after hitting saboteur trying to force his horse onto barbed wire

June 2002 - saboteurs carrying hammers and pick axe handles attack the Three Counties Hunt - http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/competit ... 36173.html

September 2004 - Old Surrey Hunt Kennels held under siege by violent saboteurs who threw stones at humans and hounds. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... sters.html

October 2004 - Suzanne Amos found guilty of ABH following incident at Quorn Hunt
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/58511.html

December 2006 - Saboteur arrested for carrying an offensive weapon at a meet of the Essex & Suffolk
http://www.eadt.co.uk/content/eadt/...gory=news&itemid=IPED26 Dec 2006 21:31:07:357

September 2009 - Tiff Clelland and David Marriot were charged with public order offences, they were asked to remove the clothing covering their faces and refused becoming verbally abusive to the police who had made the request.
http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2057370_fox_hunt_protester_fined_for_not_removing_balaclava
 
There you go, its been done for me.

Also, i believe the people who ran their car into my friends horse were prosecuted for dangerous driving and leaving the scene of the accident as well.
 
Thanks Claire, I look forward to reading those with my Friday night pint tonight (I could release that as a song!)

UnaB - I honestly dont think sabs would attack a horse. They are genuinely there to protect animals as they care for them. It would make no sense for them to hurt a horse!
 
Fantastic_Mr_Fox said:
Thanks Claire, I look forward to reading those with my Friday night pint tonight (I could release that as a song!)

UnaB - I honestly dont think sabs would attack a horse. They are genuinely there to protect animals as they care for them. It would make no sense for them to hurt a horse!
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Well, thats all very well for you to say, but i witnessed with my own eyes these people shouting abuse to us (who were on a CHILDRENS meet btw! so we were kids) and driving a car directly into the horses who had nowhere to go (we were on a road with a hedge behind us) and this one poor horse died because of their wish to "protect" animals. That is not an isolated incident either as you have seen from this thread. I have had people throwing things at me and hitting my horses too, or making loud noises or trying to spook the horses.
 
I have seen antis pass hunt horses on the roads deliberately fast and close, sounding their horns, revving their engines and so on to try and frighten them.
 
Fantastic_Mr_Fox said:
UnaB - I honestly dont think sabs would attack a horse. They are genuinely there to protect animals as they care for them. It would make no sense for them to hurt a horse!
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Don't forget the antis who tried to set fire to the Essex & Suffolk's kennels and released their horses and hounds onto the roads.

And Claire, you missed Peter 'Oh dear, the tw@t didn't stand clear of it' Bunce who was fined £650 for careless driving and failure to stop after hitting a motorbike and a horse with the Warwickshire. Then there's John Curtin, who was on the airfield with Bunce, who was jailed for 2 years for desecrating a grave.

Nice friends you have, Fanatic Mr Fox.
 
Fantastic_Mr_Fox said:
Thanks Claire, I look forward to reading those with my Friday night pint tonight (I could release that as a song!)

UnaB - I honestly dont think sabs would attack a horse. They are genuinely there to protect animals as they care for them. It would make no sense for them to hurt a horse!
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I was riding to a meet a few years back when I saw a car heading straight at me from behind. I managed to move my horse very quickly over to the left and the car just missed us.
Guess what? It was my lovely anti-hunting brother in law who didn't realise it was me - not until I visited him and gave him one hell of a b***icking. He told me we shouldn't be riding down the road two a breast, so I dropped off the then BHS leaflet for car drivers, with the firm promise that if he did anything like that again in my presence we WOULD go to court.
 
Thanks for the great compliation of articles/links! There are so many companies (ie: Lush, Yellowtail) who are deluded into thinking that they are helping animals by supporting these terrorist idiots. This is a great addition to my portfolio for pointing out to them exactly what kind of maniacs they are dealing with.
Funny - no reply from "Fantastic" Mr. Fox. Not a fan of the facts apparently. :)
 
Fantastic_Mr_Fox said:
UnaB - I honestly dont think sabs would attack a horse. They are genuinely there to protect animals as they care for them. It would make no sense for them to hurt a horse!
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Tell that to the former Master of the Surrey Union! Hunting was over, Mark was hacking hounds back to the lorry when a sab blocked his path and grabbed the reins of his horse, dragging down on the bit and causing the horse (whose mouth was badly torn by the sab's action) to rear up and go over backwards.

Mark was trapped under the horse who was badly winded - but pure luck his back wasn't broken. Mark suffered a ruptured kidney! Most sabs would not DELIBERATELY hurt a horse - but ignorance and stupidity around horses inevitably leads to horses getting hurt!

It could also lead to sabs getting hurt! I recall at one hunt a sab kept rushing up behind horses and our very courteous hunt chairman - who was on a big young TB said: "Please don't come up behind my horse - he WILL kick and then you'll be in real trouble." Sab yelled back: "No mate, if your horse kicks ME then YOU'll be in trouble!" Hunt Chairman replied: "Giving evidence about how your death occurred will be immensely embarrassing to me - you won't be there to enjoy my discomfiture!" Sab didn't get it! :rolleyes:
 
Then there's John Curtin, who was on the airfield with Bunce, who was jailed for 2 years for desecrating a grave.

Nice friends you have, Fanatic Mr Fox.
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Is that the John Curtin who Trevor Morse tried to attack on the day he killed himself with his own actions?? I will stick with Bunce and c/o rather than toffs and the country thugs they attract with the slaughter of our wildlife. R.I.P fox hunting as was lol lol lol
 
I could write a book about the amount of anti incidents I have witnessed/been involved with over the years. Sabs in my garden after beagling, pins stuck in my hoses chest to make it go backwards into a ditch (it was grey and the blood did show), being accused of illegal hunting of deer after the ban (they didn't hunt deer before so why start now?)
They are a totally unpleasant bunch of people, sadly we think a lot of them are still being paid to come out by some charity/inheritance as most of them are totally ignorant about hunting. I would make the best anti ever!
 
As someone who has had firecrackers thrown under a horse out hunting, I think you antis are sad individuals who have a twisted view of the class system, hence we are toffs and the country thugs according to the blinkered such as Scratchline.

Why not do something useful, you antis, like fighting to change the laws on transportation of food animals? The suffering there has to be seen to be believed. Or is it that hunting is an easy target, and nobody pays you to to fight some real welfare battles?
 
The fact that you associate with convicted felons speaks volumes.

As for RIP hunting that was, hunting has never stayed the same but always evolved to deal with new difficulties - like barbed wire, the railways and the Hunting Act 2004. And it will continue to do so, although I suspect things will be a bit easier after 6 May.
 
Thank god I've never come across any of this abuse, well apart from some shouting and a few car horns but this was as a kid years ago in England. I can not imagine how I would react at someone trying to harm my horse out hunting.
 
When i was younger we had a terrible anti problem, before it was banned, not so much now...
I was about 10 years old when I had moved to the side of the road to let a car through, it then veered off the road towards me and my pony, thankfully pony spooked, ended up in the ditch (thankfully not too deep) but the car only just missed us...
We previously had pepper etc. sprayed in horses and hounds faces, have had tapes played in order to confuse out huntsmen- which it did not.
A friend and I were also threatened by some anti when we were with the huntsmen, i must have been 11 and it was scary, he had some tool things, not sure what they were, but i suspect to tamper with vehicles etc. although when they are being waved around in front of your pony while he grabs your reins, you do not think like that....
It does happen, and still does occur... although haven't heard of bolting gates... agree not the best method- jump out! :D
 
There are moves afoot to have these cowardly idiots identified, despite their attempts to remain anonymous, and for them to be dealt with away from the field, in their own environments, on their own time...a sort of anti-anti movement. Once the first few have been maimed, the others will not be so keen to turn out on hunt days.
 
Scratchline said:
Is that the John Curtin who Trevor Morse tried to attack on the day he killed himself with his own actions?? I will stick with Bunce and c/o rather than toffs and the country thugs they attract with the slaughter of our wildlife. R.I.P fox hunting as was lol lol lol
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LOL! Whoever it was who told you it's only toffs that hunt was very wrong! Oh sorry, then you say they're thugs - which is it? And it's hardly slaughter of the wildlife, the odd fox maybe which are vermin anyway.

Unfortunately I've never had the chance to go hunting, always wanted to. My horse is far too old to hunt, I really wish I'd taken her when she was younger, she would have loved it. :)

ETA if I ever had been on the fence about the whole hunting debate, these b*st*rds who call themselves animal lovers, then attack horses, hounds, and as stated above, children, would certainly have made me a strong supporter of hunting! They aren't animal lovers THEY are thugs, violent ones.
 
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