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Opinions on Harlow White’s way of training, riding and caring for her horses?

I do think she loves her horse however I also think she needs to go back to doing groundwork if she can’t ride her horses in a simple snaffle and cavesson! I’ve seen her ride in a slow twist or double mouthpiece American gag + a Grakle + a martingale all while thumping around in a chair seat and hauling on her horses face. I’ve also seen many clips of her riding Popcorn, Rolo and Cloudy overbent.
 
SaddlePsych'D said:
Reminder that HW is a child (being exploited).
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Harlow White? Who she? Who he?
Google, OK: an internet moppet, got it.
However, re above, this minor is undeniably already living her life on the internet, seems to have thoroughly monetised her existence via the internet, all across social media, so a bit late for that.
Never watched her riding, her pony-handling, and can’t be bothered to research it either, so no idea whether OP’s concerns have any validity whatsoever.
But, given existing threads about other delightful riders (not), and CDJ withdrawing from Paris, and various others condemning heavy handed methods or kit - rather surprising that another celebrity rider’s possible lack of sympathy becomes suddenly acceptable or beyond reproach due to tender years.
As a general principle, seems like a more impressionable age might be quite a good time to gently suggest to up and coming juniors that today’s public prefer to see more empathy and tact from riders, to instil those horse-centred values - rather than wait til riders’ 18th birthdays and rip ‘em apart.
‘Cos if there’s any basis at all for OP’s post, that will be exactly what she’s got coming, down the line.
 
Exasperated said:
Harlow White? Who she? Who he?
Google, OK: an internet moppet, got it.
However, re above, this minor is undeniably already living her life on the internet, seems to have thoroughly monetised her existence via the internet, all across social media, so a bit late for that.
Never watched her riding, her pony-handling, and can’t be bothered to research it either, so no idea whether OP’s concerns have any validity whatsoever.
But, given existing threads about other delightful riders (not), and CDJ withdrawing from Paris, and various others condemning heavy handed methods or kit - rather surprising that another celebrity rider’s possible lack of sympathy becomes suddenly acceptable or beyond reproach due to tender years.
As a general principle, seems like a more impressionable age might be quite a good time to gently suggest to up and coming juniors that today’s public prefer to see more empathy and tact from riders, to instil those horse-centred values - rather than wait til riders’ 18th birthdays and rip ‘em apart.
‘Cos if there’s any basis at all for OP’s post, that will be exactly what she’s got coming, down the line.
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I really don't think Harlow is that bad. I can't say I've seen her riding and thought anything other than she has a lovely Connemara. I'm sure there are holes to be picked in her riding, but I don't think it's necessary, or kind, to create a post just for that purpose.
 
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Exasperated said:
Harlow White? Who she? Who he?
Google, OK: an internet moppet, got it.
However, re above, this minor is undeniably already living her life on the internet, seems to have thoroughly monetised her existence via the internet, all across social media, so a bit late for that.
Never watched her riding, her pony-handling, and can’t be bothered to research it either, so no idea whether OP’s concerns have any validity whatsoever.
But, given existing threads about other delightful riders (not), and CDJ withdrawing from Paris, and various others condemning heavy handed methods or kit - rather surprising that another celebrity rider’s possible lack of sympathy becomes suddenly acceptable or beyond reproach due to tender years.
As a general principle, seems like a more impressionable age might be quite a good time to gently suggest to up and coming juniors that today’s public prefer to see more empathy and tact from riders, to instil those horse-centred values - rather than wait til riders’ 18th birthdays and rip ‘em apart.
‘Cos if there’s any basis at all for OP’s post, that will be exactly what she’s got coming, down the line.
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The OP, as @smolmaus has indicated, is chatting s- about a child on the internet. You can dress it up however you like (with your completely uninformed opinion because you can't be bothered to look up who/what is being referenced) but it is gross.

I also don't think that the majority of people concerned about 'influencer' children who are being exploited by their parents, are waiting until they at 18 to 'rip them apart'.
 
ihatework said:
There is no one on this planet that 100% rides perfectly,

Let alone a kid who is being completely exploited.

I won't follow her, I think it's obscene. I feel the same about Ivy (poor poor kid - it's going to backfire big style one day)
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/\ This!!!

A few kids on the internet are going to have a terrible time in their late teens/early 20's which will likely ruin their adult lives due to pushy parents making a quick buck out of them. There are a few celebrity's kids that are living the same scenario, just with a bit more cash in their back pockets.
 
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Exasperated said:
Harlow White? Who she? Who he?
Google, OK: an internet moppet, got it.
However, re above, this minor is undeniably already living her life on the internet, seems to have thoroughly monetised her existence via the internet, all across social media, so a bit late for that.
Never watched her riding, her pony-handling, and can’t be bothered to research it either, so no idea whether OP’s concerns have any validity whatsoever.
But, given existing threads about other delightful riders (not), and CDJ withdrawing from Paris, and various others condemning heavy handed methods or kit - rather surprising that another celebrity rider’s possible lack of sympathy becomes suddenly acceptable or beyond reproach due to tender years.
As a general principle, seems like a more impressionable age might be quite a good time to gently suggest to up and coming juniors that today’s public prefer to see more empathy and tact from riders, to instil those horse-centred values - rather than wait til riders’ 18th birthdays and rip ‘em apart.
‘Cos if there’s any basis at all for OP’s post, that will be exactly what she’s got coming, down the line.
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I don't think you can accuse a minor of organising some years of earning and living via the Internet. That accusation belongs to those adults who "care" for her. Her riding is also the product of instruction at her age so criticisms belong to adults yet again.
Happy to debate the exploitation of children by parents on the Internet.
 
Exasperated said:
Harlow White? Who she? Who he?
Google, OK: an internet moppet, got it.
However, re above, this minor is undeniably already living her life on the internet, seems to have thoroughly monetised her existence via the internet, all across social media, so a bit late for that.
Never watched her riding, her pony-handling, and can’t be bothered to research it either, so no idea whether OP’s concerns have any validity whatsoever.
But, given existing threads about other delightful riders (not), and CDJ withdrawing from Paris, and various others condemning heavy handed methods or kit - rather surprising that another celebrity rider’s possible lack of sympathy becomes suddenly acceptable or beyond reproach due to tender years.
As a general principle, seems like a more impressionable age might be quite a good time to gently suggest to up and coming juniors that today’s public prefer to see more empathy and tact from riders, to instil those horse-centred values - rather than wait til riders’ 18th birthdays and rip ‘em apart.
‘Cos if there’s any basis at all for OP’s post, that will be exactly what she’s got coming, down the line.
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Gross. This is even worse than the original post, you haven't even ever watched the channel but are happy to suggest they've got it coming 🙄.

I have zero interest in influencers but the algorithm occasionally throws up posts from Ivy's page whining about people making mean comments and how it really affects Ivy. I'm sure it does, it must be awful for her, but there is a really, really easy way to stop (or at least minimise) negative comments. And that's to stop monetising your poor child on social media. Every post has the obligatory subscription info in the comments of course.

Plastering your child over the Internet and basically begging for money is disgusting and I've every sympathy for these minors who, no doubt, agreed enthusiastically when it first started, before they were mature enough to understand the consequences.
 
ihatework said:
There is no one on this planet that 100% rides perfectly,

Let alone a kid who is being completely exploited.

I won't follow her, I think it's obscene. I feel the same about Ivy (poor poor kid - it's going to backfire big style one day)
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Is that account still on Insta? I can't find them but possibly I'm blocked because I called Naylors out in a comment about partnering with them at Christmas (then asked my OH not to buy any of my Christmas presents with Naylors 😂)
 
ihatework said:
There is no one on this planet that 100% rides perfectly,

Let alone a kid who is being completely exploited.

I won't follow her, I think it's obscene. I feel the same about Ivy (poor poor kid - it's going to backfire big style one day)
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I have to disagree...
Henrik von Eckermann is hands down the best rider I have even seen.
 
Matafleur said:
Gross. This is even worse than the original post, you haven't even ever watched the channel but are happy to suggest they've got it coming 🙄.

I have zero interest in influencers but the algorithm occasionally throws up posts from Ivy's page whining about people making mean comments and how it really affects Ivy. I'm sure it does, it must be awful for her, but there is a really, really easy way to stop (or at least minimise) negative comments. And that's to stop monetising your poor child on social media. Every post has the obligatory subscription info in the comments of course.

Plastering your child over the Internet and basically begging for money is disgusting and I've every sympathy for these minors who, no doubt, agreed enthusiastically when it first started, before they were mature enough to understand the consequences.
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No, I’ve no strong feelings about HW’s riding, genuinely know little about her.
How I feel about lucrative, electronic exposure and exploitation is another matter altogether, obviously am aware the moppet phenomenon exists.
My comment concerns riding / handling of ponies (HW may be superb, no idea), and as stated, a general principle t sorry, as below, cat jumped on the keyboard
 
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I find it deplorable that we have so many policies in place to protect vulnerable adults from financial and psychological abuse but nothing for children who are abused via SM by their primary carers. The parents of these so called influencers should be arrested and tried. Why aren't they being investigated?
 
Exasperated said:
No, I’ve no strong feelings about HW’s riding, genuinely know little about her.
How I feel about lucrative, electronic exposure and exploitation is another matter altogether, obviously am aware the moppet phenomenon exists.
My comment concerns riding / handling of ponies (HW may be superb, no idea), and as stated, a general principle t
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…that (non specific to any particular moppet), that encouraging horse-centred and tactful techniques in young riders ( young riders whose every ride is already public property) might be a better time to ingrain. Greedy Mothers, take note.
14 year olds are legally minors; emotionally immature, albeit precocious; and physically young women / men. If there’s a question of hauling ponies’ mouths or dishing out punishment, many teenagers are physically far stronger than me, and probably than many older, female riders.
As for castigating them aged 18+, unlikely to be me doing much of that, but this forum is already full of threads and judgemental vitriol about riders in the public eye, as noted.
Get it right you celebrity kids, or await censure on HH!
 
Nicnac said:
I find it deplorable that we have so many policies in place to protect vulnerable adults from financial and psychological abuse but nothing for children who are abused via SM by their primary carers. The parents of these so called influencers should be arrested and tried. Why aren't they being investigated?
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This might be overstating the effectiveness of the policies to protect adults.

I agree its weird and exploitative, but there are kids being physically brutalised and sexually abused by their parents who don't get arrested. Not that in an ideal world you couldn't tackle all issues of child exploitation but "arrested for putting your child on YouTube" is a bit far fetched.
 
ihatework said:
There is no one on this planet that 100% rides perfectly,

Let alone a kid who is being completely exploited.

I won't follow her, I think it's obscene. I feel the same about Ivy (poor poor kid - it's going to backfire big style one day)
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What is happening to Ivy is absolutely awful. Her parents really are something else and it is an accident waiting to happen.
 
OT but when I used the word "moppet " in the office the other week all the young people looked at me blankly and asked if I meant muppet. 🤔
 
smolmaus said:
This might be overstating the effectiveness of the policies to protect adults.

I agree its weird and exploitative, but there are kids being physically brutalised and sexually abused by their parents who don't get arrested. Not that in an ideal world you couldn't tackle all issues of child exploitation but "arrested for putting your child on YouTube" is a bit far fetched.
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I agree in reality things don't go as they should re: child protection

I think there is a point there in Nicnac's post though. There seem to be little to no legal framework/protections specifically around children being exploited by their own parents online. There's plenty of things out there for if you have a concern about children being bullied by peers or groomed or exploited by strangers online. But when the perpetrator is a parent, it doesn't seem to come up as high on the list of concerns.

I approached the NSPCC about it a while ago to see if they were doing any campaigning work around the issue and the response indicated they didn't really seem to understand what I was talking about!
 
Having had the misfortune to meet Mummy and Harlow, I agree what she's doing to that child is awful. I hope some of the money raised will be going towards an excellent therapist when Harlow invariably needs one and wouldn't be surprised if she did an entirely justified Brooklyn Beckham at some point. Until people stop watching/following her this explotation won't stop.
 
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KC31 said:
What is happening to Ivy is absolutely awful. Her parents really are something else and it is an accident waiting to happen.
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I think they must have blocked me on Meta because I can't find on Insta or FB (got excited that they had shut it all down!) but I see on YT they are doing memberships 🤢

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I did think of starting a list of brands that had partnered/advertised with them but now I can't. One year they did an advent calendar giveaway thing so the list was long!

ETA- Naylors can stay on the list because JwI wasn't the only child featured on their feed and they seem to do a lot with one of those 'family accounts' whose content gives me a massive ick.
 
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SaddlePsych'D said:
I think they must have blocked me on Meta because I can't find on Insta or FB (got excited that they had shut it all down!) but I see on YT they are doing memberships 🤢

For the price of £12.99/month a Gold member has:

Members-only live chats

Priority reply to comments

Early access to new videos

Photos and status updates

Connecting on social media

Gameplay with you

Members-only live streams


I did think of starting a list of brands that had partnered/advertised with them but now I can't. One year they did an advent calendar giveaway thing so the list was long!

ETA- Naylors can stay on the list because JwI wasn't the only child featured on their feed and they seem to do a lot with one of those 'family accounts' whose content gives me a massive ick.
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It's absolutely vile and honestly makes me shudder. In a world where many parents go to great lengths to protect their children from the dark side of the internet and potential predators, there are those that are happy to exploit them and put them at risk for their own financial gain. I think social media exposure for financial gain of any child under the age of 18 should be banned personally.
 
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