Has anyone bought land eventually got planning for a house.

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If so, how did you go about it and how long did it take. I bought a piece of empty land 3yrs ago and have built a yard and have permission for a day living mobile on the land, but of course ultimately I would like to build a house for personal use ( if the ever closer creeping housing development companies don't get here first ).

I just wondered if anyone had any tips / hints that I can do towards putting in a future planning application.
 
I'm sure you already know that it won't be easy.. but i'd suggest talking on an informal basis to your local planning officers, as every area/ council takes different views on what is important to them, both in terms of the reasons for being allowed to build at your stables, but also the design and scale of the house thatt could be considered. Nearly all councils now have planning applications on line so perhaps look through current and past ones and see how the issues have been tackled by other people and what the Planning Committees have said about them.
I'd also suggest, when you do get to the stage of making an application that you get a planning consultant on board who has worked in your local area on the same sort of thing. I know it looks like even more expense, but they should know all the local quirks of the planning system as well as having a good working relationship with the planners.
Good Luck
 
I only know of one person who managed it and he did it similar to you.

He bought the land which had various barns and little outbuildings. He converted some to stables, put in a school and started an equestrian business; he took in a few liveries, gave lessons and had a couple of broodmares. He then argued that the business was his livelihood and he needed to be there for the animals. On that basis he was allowed a mobile home. He lived in that for 10 years, after which he was allowed to build a house. The house had an equestrian business restriction, but as far as restrictions go this is a really easy one to comply with.

He sold the place for just under a million about 4 years ago.
 
People down the road from us run a Wedding carriage business from their yard;
Even though the've applied a couple of times to put a mobile on the land it gets refused as its in a conservation area.
Depends on which County Council you are, some are just downright unapproachable, unless you are from the travelling community
 
It took me many years to get permanent consent to live on the site in a mobile home and even when I applied to put a house up I was told by my Development Control Officer "your problem is you have permanent consent for a temporary dwelling but what you want is a permanent consent for a permanent dwelling". When you looked at the Planning Policy Guide lines you saw that this was complete rubbish as they said if you had temporary consent for a building for three years it did not matter what you built it with at the end of three years it had to come down so it follows if you have permanent consent it does not matter what it is built with. Remember planning is a legal process governed by amateurs and personality makes all the difference speak personally to all the members of the committee before the application is processed. Remember planning decisions are not good or bad but just decisions. You will have to show that dwelling on the site is in the welfare interests of the animals not for the safety of the site and you will have to show a financial plan to show that you income comes from the site. Planning Officers are very wary about people with money who want to develope a commercial farming activity and later give it up to have a large house on the site.
 
Re the income side, does it have to be a certain amount. At the moment my income comes from many different sources so would it be better to open a new bank account showing the income derived from the land activities.

Also my council is Winchester and there doesn't seem to be any set pattern for whats allowed and whats not. My road is of mixed residential and commercial developments ranging from small workers Bungalows to huge farm houses all set in their own land to huge commercial nurseries and small industrial estates. I know of two families permanently living in mobiles whereby the council have turned a blind eye. Another lady turned her barn into a residence and the council took enforcement action but gave up saying she had lived there for four years so it wasn't enforceable. A local farmer put in planning for a seven bedroom house to ' house' polish farm workers and as soon as it was granted it was up for sale.

No rhyme or reason.
 
Breeding stock may be the answer - a friend of mine got permission to convert part of his yard office to a flat as he argued that he had to stay over when broodmares are foaling.
You don't have to buy them, you could have a breeding lease or even take mares in to foal for someone else.
 
oh we have tried and tried - we already have a house there a little 3 bedroom cottage and wanted a bigger one as there are my parents and my grandparents to live there - they said a 3 bedroom cottage was big enough !! hilarious !!

we have eventually come to the conclusion we are going to have to develope one of the old barns !!! the house we asked for was actually smaller than the one we can develop - so now we will have 2 !!!!

then we have planning for 7 brick built stables to and will hopefully convert the roof !!

the annoying thing is everyone else in the area have all developed their cottages a few years ago and none of them have any where near the amount of land we have !!
 
Its so frustrating. The system is so much easier for big developers. I live in a tiny cottage with an acre but a lot of road frontage. Its like a tiny island of countryside now surrounded by housing estates. Developers have approached us and our neighbours several times and it was under offer for a development, which fell through because of the credit crunch. None of them were worried about getting planning permission for a development, even though its in the green belt. Theres a hotel being built next to us on the other side and an industrial estate half a mile away. Yet I bet if we applied to build ONE house, we would have no chance.

Its such a shame that there isn't a planning rule that requires say a third of all new builds to be self-builds. It would improve housing stock, enhance the appearance of the countryside and make housing more affordable!
 
LOL thats rather extreme, I want to do things properly cos I don't want years of stress fighting an eviction notice and also I don't want to live in a disguised house with no windows, I want a proper house
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with a front door .
 
I replied in SB but, we run a Carriage Hire and Donkey Hire businesses from our land. To cut a long story short, we have tried everything we can, we are not allowed to live on-site. Someone recently bought a paddock on the end of our land, applied for Planning to live there and got it. They are from a certain community and used their 'community' laws.
 
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