Has anyone else noticed Petrol has sneaked up in price again ?

StormyMoments said:
problem being supermarkets tend to use all 3 so they would be no good (also depends on area of the country) Jet and Texaco use Esso and Shell i think, Morrisons, Tesco Sainsbury's etc use Esso, Shell and BP... but it is done by area so in the south east Morrisons use Esso and Shell but Middlands and to the noth of the country they use BP and Shell if that makes any sence... i would have to do research into what companies dont use certain companies etc.

also what you have to bare in mind is that the closer to the depot the petrol station is the cheaper the fuel as it has to travel less for example Weighbridge has an Esso? (i think) depot - Weighbridge is a very affluent area but the fuel is cheap as it doesnt have to travel that far... the further out you get from the depot the more expensive it is as they have to fuel the tankers as well... move closer to a depot and your fuel is going to be cheaper ;)
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That isn't true. I live not so far from the Stanlow refinery in Cheshire - my mother lives in the sticks in Cornwall. Guess which of us pays more for unleaded?
 
fatpiggy said:
That isn't true. I live not so far from the Stanlow refinery in Cheshire - my mother lives in the sticks in Cornwall. Guess which of us pays more for unleaded?
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The cheapest I've ever paid for petrol was 84p in the middle of Dartmoor. Compared to the 90p odd elsewhere.

If every company locally is charging 139... why charge 99 when you can get away with 138? And look at Shells first bill out of the Gulf Oil Spill, with more yet to come... ouch. That'll need recouping.
 
cptrayes said:
You ain't seen nothing yet! We are running out of oil. From here on in, it just gets more and more expensive.
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I suspect you are right. We should have made better use of this limited resource, but it was cheap back then and market forces always prevail. Thankfully, increasing prices will spur development of alternative energy sources. Of course, just now oil is also needed to make a lot of stuff like plastics, fertilisers, pesticides and pharmaceuticals.

http://leest1.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/peak_oil_graph-739803.jpg

I did a better version of this graph with the axes extending a few more centuries into the past and future. Basically it shows a brief blip in oil consumption around the time we are living in now. Lucky us! Before and after, oil consumption is very low. The difference is that before now there was oil, and after there will be none. Still, with any luck, there will be enough oil to keep us comfortable and safe in our lifetimes, and solving the energy and petrochemicals problem will be up to the young/future generations. I wonder what they will think about our complaining at one ot two pence per litre per month increases in petrol prices.
 
The blip will be very brief. Plenty of replacements out there. Many of which are being used now albeit some in very early stages.
Solar, wave, wind energies, algal biofuel, electric, lithium cells, various gases are all being used on larger serious scales for powering vehicles. The costs have decreased rapidly in the last few years for several of those and will continue to do so.
By the time the real problem of running out hits in the future there will be comfortable and affordable alternatives
 
My turn for a rant I think! This is the direct result of the business they mention on the news now and then - you know one of those snippets that you hear and say to yourself "oh a I wonder what that is?" but never bother to find out?

Quantative Easing! What this means is the Bank of England with the full backing of the Government - print more money. There's absolutely no need for it - the economy is actually shrinking - from an already shrunk position!!!

So what you think happens? Unfortunately, there are no meteors roaring across he sky or sonic bangs to announce it but it's just as bad - the perceived value of the £ sterling in terms of foriegn currency goes down - it has to because there's more money been created without any reason so foreigners want more pounds to make up the difference for them being worth less.

The £ slipped to a low against the US$ and OIL is priced in $'s so all fuel will cost more.

Coupled with that - we are all buying less fuel so the oil companies are hiking up the price of what they do sell.
 
cptrayes said:
You ain't seen nothing yet! We are running out of oil. From here on in, it just gets more and more expensive.
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True, but then what is it..like 56% of that is tax...........its not the petrol that is expensive, its the governments share.

Companies still spend stupid amounts of ££ to get the stuff out the ground, willy nilly as well...........few hundred mil here and there.
 
Sorry I can't paste actual name of website, cos I've binned it. But there's one, that gives you details of all the cheapest petrol stations via your postcode. I found it via moneysavingexpert.com
It emails you once a week with the cheapest deals near you.
This is slightly useless. Apologies.
 
cptrayes said:
You ain't seen nothing yet! We are running out of oil. From here on in, it just gets more and more expensive.
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Sorry That is rubbish!! there are still huge amounts of the stuff with more and more being found, some isnt that easy to get or in areas people dont want disturbed, peak oil and other scare storys are all about maintaining prices ,Blame OPEC, speculators and remember our fuel is amongst the cheapest in the world.. before tax !!!!
 
perfect11s said:
Sorry That is rubbish!! there are still huge amounts of the stuff with more and more being found, some isnt that easy to get or in areas people dont want disturbed, peak oil and other scare storys are all about maintaining prices ,Blame OPEC, speculators and remember our fuel is amongst the cheapest in the world.. before tax !!!!
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That is true but much of the new discoveries depend on an upward trend in prices to make the economic arguement for extraction. OPEC is rather a spent force, too fragmented by modern politics and new fields in non-Arab countries have rather pulled their magic carpet from under them. There was a problem with having the right kind of refining capacity in the right areas at one time but I think this has largely gone away too but of course China and now India has vast needs.

All the world's markets for Commodities have been controlled by Futures Contracts for ages now and do feature a large amount of speculation but many had their fingers burnt dabbling in oil (hahaha) so prices normally reflect real supply worries or hedging opinion.
 
perfect11s said:
Sorry That is rubbish!! there are still huge amounts of the stuff with more and more being found, some isnt that easy to get or in areas people dont want disturbed, peak oil and other scare storys are all about maintaining prices ,Blame OPEC, speculators and remember our fuel is amongst the cheapest in the world.. before tax !!!!
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Of course there are still huge amounts, but we are also using up this finite resource at a prodigious rate. So at what point do you say we are starting to run out? Probably the most logical would be where global production has peaked. Logically there must be a peak, though when it will occur (assuming it hasn't already, which appears to be the case for some countries) and how broad the peak is a matter of debate.
 
Well, what was 140 yesterday is 138 today! They must have realised no one was going to spend that!

Its like the Torq garage where I used to live........one day it was say 134.......then for the next few days it was 132 with an offer that if you bought it then you got a voucher for 2p ff next fill, and a few days later it was back to 134
 
Paid 138.9 at Mr S yesterday.

Feel really sorry for those who commute long distances to work.

I've already heard of a couple of people who have rung in sick to work as just before pay day they can't afford to get fuel to actually go to work :eek:

That's not good for anyone.
 
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