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has anyone fed baileys no 1 cooked cereal meal or no 8 meadow sweet with honey, and if so was it good, is it any good for a moderate dooer (does say non - heating)

any hepl would be great thanks :D
 
Used to fed baileys no 1 at my old work for the poor doers. Im my opionion it puts the weight on, all the horses that were on it held their weight really well. It didnt heat them up either.
Sorry cant remember how much we used to pay I think it was roughly £7 - £8 pound a bag.
 
baileys 1 is brillient stuff used to feed it to my mares when i got them puts the wieght on and does exaclty what it says on the bag i had to wet it quite a bit as they didnt like it dry as it is quite gritty so sort of soaked it and added a bit of molassis and they ate every mouthful

(sorry for spelling mistakes)
 
What do you mean by a 'moderate doer'? Do you mean a horse that is nearly a 'poor doer' and is hard to keep weight on? Or one that is neither a 'good doer' or a 'poor doer' so tends to stay at the correct weight quite easily?

Baileys No 1 and No 8 are very different types of feed.

No 1 is pure micronised wheat and high in calories with 14 MJDE/kg so good for putting weight on. It is not supplement with vit/mins, so if fed as the only bucket feed it is usually recommended that a balancer or vit/min supplement is fed alongside it. Although Baileys say it is non-heating, it is still quite starchy due to being pure wheat, so sensitive horses may hype up on it.

No 8 is a mix that is supplemented with vit/mins and has a medium level of calories - 10 MJDE/kg. This is higher than low cal feeds such as high fibre cubes but lower than most conditioning cubes and mixes. Again Baileys describe it as non-heating, but it does contain barley, wheat and maize, so may upset the cereal-sensitive.

What is your horse fed at the moment and what do you hope to achieve by changing feeds?
 
Spot_the_Risk said:
Which chaff and cubes do you feed, and what quantities, and how much work does your horse do?
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just plain mollichaff and pasture mix (didn't mean cubes before wasn't thinking) (MAYBE CHANGE TO HIGH FIBRE CUBES OR LIVERY PENCILS) and he is hacking once a week at the moment but will be most days in the summer
 
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horsey mad matt said:
nothing reaqlly i suppose, i have seen these feeds a couple of times and they sound, nice quality and something with a bit extra , if that makes sense
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If he is in good condition and perhaps even a bit podgy, and not doing much in the way of work, then he definitely doesn't need 'a bit extra' in terms of calories! If you mean 'a bit extra' in terms of things like vit/mins, protein etc., then you could think about feeding a balancer - as your horse is in good condition then something like Baileys Lo Cal might be suitable. You could cut out your usual cubes/mix and feed the Lo Cal instead, mixed with your normal chaff/beet. Most commercial cubes and mixes have to be fed at quite a high rate to give the full amount of vit/mins, and this can supply too many calories for a good doer. Balancers concentrate the nutrients into a much smaller amount of feed, so can be fed at a lower amount but still provide the full range of nutrients.

Remember that feeding too many calories for a horse's needs leads to obesity. Long term obesity is a known risk factor for laminitis, which could lead to your horse having to be put down. Please don't feed high calorie feeds to a horse that doesn't need it.
 
TGM said:
If he is in good condition and perhaps even a bit podgy, and not doing much in the way of work, then he definitely doesn't need 'a bit extra' in terms of calories! If you mean 'a bit extra' in terms of things like vit/mins, protein etc., then you could think about feeding a balancer - as your horse is in good condition then something like Baileys Lo Cal might be suitable. You could cut out your usual cubes/mix and feed the Lo Cal instead, mixed with your normal chaff/beet. Most commercial cubes and mixes have to be fed at quite a high rate to give the full amount of vit/mins, and this can supply too many calories for a good doer. Balancers concentrate the nutrients into a much smaller amount of feed, so can be fed at a lower amount but still provide the full range of nutrients.

Remember that feeding too many calories for a horse's needs leads to obesity. Long term obesity is a known risk factor for laminitis, which could lead to your horse having to be put down. Please don't feed high calorie feeds to a horse that doesn't need it.
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thankyou for advice he is looking really good on what he is being fed, i for some reason am never happy (silly i know) i think i may just give him high fibre cubes as he doesn't seem to be lacking in vits and mins. fibre is probaly better for him than the starchy pasture mix and maybe a vit and min lick
 
This post does seem a bit bizarre, if your horse is in good condition on what he is being fed on, i really don't think you should change it. if its not broken, don't fix it!

Changing a horses diet can cause problems if not done gradually and carefully. It seems to me that you have just seen a bag of feed that you fancy trying just cos you like the look of it.

I personally haven't fed either of these, but if they contain barley and other grains then they will be more of a conditioning feed and if your horse is a bit on the podgy side, you don't want him getting fatter!
 
alfirules said:
This post does seem a bit bizarre, if your horse is in good condition on what he is being fed on, i really don't think you should change it. if its not broken, don't fix it!

Changing a horses diet can cause problems if not done gradually and carefully. It seems to me that you have just seen a bag of feed that you fancy trying just cos you like the look of it.

I personally haven't fed either of these, but if they contain barley and other grains then they will be more of a conditioning feed and if your horse is a bit on the podgy side, you don't want him getting fatter!
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i know it's just me, sorry for sounding a complete and utter t***
 
I completely understand where you are coming from. I am a feed obsessive lol! Feed companies prey on people like you and I. I tend to look at a feed and think that because it looks appetising to me then it must be appetising to my horse. Thing is, my horse likes eating grass and I dont!

if your horse is happy, looks good and looks forward to feeding times then stay as you are. Dont get swayed by all the feed marketing hype. Seriously, you will change your mind about your horses feed each and every time you see and advert in a magazine. Like I said, I am very much like you...or was very much like you and always felt that my horse would look and feel better by feeding such and such everytime I saw an ad or my friends fed something different.

I now know (thanks to people on here like TGM) that hay/forage is the best for your horse. If my horse needs anything else then and only then will I consider a change (doesnt stop me researching feeds though...I cant go cold turkey just yet lol).

Not so long ago, my pony was receiving 2 feeds of conditioning cubes, chaff, beet and oil. I changed to a balancer and replaced feed for an extra slice of hay and she hasnt lost a pound! She looks brilliant, seems happy enough and my wallet (or should I say OH wallet) is much better off!

Dont get caught in the feed trap. Its addictive!!! ;)
 
SmartieBean09 said:
I completely understand where you are coming from. I am a feed obsessive lol! Feed companies prey on people like you and I. I tend to look at a feed and think that because it looks appetising to me then it must be appetising to my horse. Thing is, my horse likes eating grass and I dont!

if your horse is happy, looks good and looks forward to feeding times then stay as you are. Dont get swayed by all the feed marketing hype. Seriously, you will change your mind about your horses feed each and every time you see and advert in a magazine. Like I said, I am very much like you...or was very much like you and always felt that my horse would look and feel better by feeding such and such everytime I saw an ad or my friends fed something different.

I now know (thanks to people on here like TGM) that hay/forage is the best for your horse. If my horse needs anything else then and only then will I consider a change (doesnt stop me researching feeds though...I cant go cold turkey just yet lol).

Not so long ago, my pony was receiving 2 feeds of conditioning cubes, chaff, beet and oil. I changed to a balancer and replaced feed for an extra slice of hay and she hasnt lost a pound! She looks brilliant, seems happy enough and my wallet (or should I say OH wallet) is much better off!

Dont get caught in the feed trap. Its addictive!!! ;)
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thankyou for saying this it makes me feel less of a burke lol, i can look but not touch heheh :D
 
No youre not Burke. I think we all have something we have OCD about. Mine is feed! I could talk about it all day long!

Its hard but you can do it! Just take one day at a time lol!! :D

Ive wasted so much money on feed over the past year. It become more of a hobby than riding!

Ive been spending atleast £100 per month on hay and feed but since changing my approach and outlook to feed, I reckon I can feed her on £400 inc hay for the year! Oh how my OH has danced since hearing this! :D
 
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