Has anyone used Tildren?

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My 23 year old welsh is due to have his first Tildren treatment in a couple of weeks for his mild arthritis of the hock.

Here’s the history on my boy and why I have chosen this product:

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/sh...&PHPSESSID=

I have decided to try Tildren twice as sometimes it doesn’t work first time but does the second time and if no success I will try Legend injections with Adequan in the muscle a few times following it.

Has anyone used Tildren?

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My then 14yo Arab endurance gelding was diagnosed in May 2004 with bilateral navicular. He was treated for 3 months with Navilox, which had no effect, and was then given an intravenous dose of Tildren, then available only as a trial in the UK but quite highly regarded in France, where they claimed a 60% success rate. Sadly, we were one of the 40%. The vets didn’t recommend further Tildren as he had not responded at all to the first course.

Colic is a possible side effect so mine was kept in for observation overnight after having the Tildren - he was fine though.
 
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My then 14yo Arab endurance gelding was diagnosed in May 2004 with bilateral navicular. He was treated for 3 months with Navilox, which had no effect, and was then given an intravenous dose of Tildren, then available only as a trial in the UK but quite highly regarded in France, where they claimed a 60% success rate. Sadly, we were one of the 40%. The vets didn’t recommend further Tildren as he had not responded at all to the first course.

Colic is a possible side effect so mine was kept in for observation overnight after having the Tildren - he was fine though.

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I believe it's quite common for the first dose to not work so my vet has warned me we may need to try a second dose. Vets have no idea why some horses respond to a second dose and not the first...
 
My boy had tildren when he strained his sacroiliac injury - it is not common treatment for that kind of injury and to be honest I dont think it did anything - I think the steroid injection did the most.

Very expensive but if you are covered by insurance worth a go. The success rates are very low.
 
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My boy had tildren when he strained his sacroiliac injury - it is not common treatment for that kind of injury and to be honest I dont think it did anything - I think the steroid injection did the most.

Very expensive but if you are covered by insurance worth a go. The success rates are very low.

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Not covered by insurance unfortunately. I think it has been quite successful in the treatment of bone spavin so fingers crossed. Nothing ventured nothing gained!
 
My horse had Tildren in November last year and has remained sound since. He had it infused over 45 minutes - i was concerned as side effects can cause colic and heart attack in horse with cariac arrythimia and he has second degree heart block which is a kind of arrythmia. However, everythign went to plan and he was fine. He also had intra articular injections into the hock and a course of adequan also. It cost £350-£400 per infusion of Tildren and the vet thinks he will need another course before my insurance claim runs out but i think that is to be on the safe side more than anything.
 
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My horse had Tildren in November last year and has remained sound since. He had it infused over 45 minutes - i was concerned as side effects can cause colic and heart attack in horse with cariac arrythimia and he has second degree heart block which is a kind of arrythmia. However, everythign went to plan and he was fine. He also had intra articular injections into the hock and a course of adequan also. It cost £350-£400 per infusion of Tildren and the vet thinks he will need another course before my insurance claim runs out but i think that is to be on the safe side more than anything.

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So I guess you don't really know if it was the tildren that worked or the injections/adequan? I am trying tildren first then going down the Legend/Adequan route if it fails.
 
It could have been one or all of the things he had, the intra articular injections are pretty good and replaced the poor joint fluid with good joint fluid which is of a sticky consistency which is good.
 
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It could have been one or all of the things he had, the intra articular injections are pretty good and replaced the poor joint fluid with good joint fluid which is of a sticky consistency which is good.

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I hope by doing it in stages like I am I will still get the same results if I end up using injections after Tildren ...
 
Yes i should think you would get good results. Be guided by what your vet thinks. The thing is when you are insured you are able to plough in as much money (within reason) towards treatment wheras you would not be able to do that if you were not insured. I think that's why Bails had had all the stuff he has had due to the fact he is insured. The Adequan was just a back up to the Tildren and i.a. joint injections. Good luck x
 
Merlin has had it twice for his badly arthritic fetlock.

He was fine both times so far as colic was concerned and has stayed sound since
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Mine was covered on the insurance luckily
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