Has only been on five minutes and crying already!

My two have been having an extra big cuddle whilst I was watching. I cant understand people who dont feel the way I do about my dogs.
 
Makes me what to use my garden to rescue as may dogs as possible :(

poor poor little dogs, just want someone to love them :(
 
Im ashamed to admit that Im someone who doesnt like staffies.

Its purely down to their bad reputation and Ive only really ever had close contact with one bitch in my life. She was fine with me but I WAS scared in her presence. Now I have no doubt this is completely irrational but faced with a staffie and any other breed at a rescue I would walk past the staff.
 
I really couldnt understand why that stray staffy was unable to be rehomed.... surely he could be rehomed as an only dog??

I cried when I saw the dead body of an abandoned unwanted dog, brought back memories of finding kizzy who lived an amazing life and was loved untill the end.

I cannot understand people that do this to their animals :(
 
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Its purely down to their bad reputation.
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Just shows how a select couple of publicised incidents can effect someones view, tar and brush come to mind :( its such a shame, with the correct upbringing and handling they are fabulous dogs and are equally as loveable and friendly as say a jack russell, its just unfortunate that due to how they look they fall into far to me irresponsible hands :(

ps. Please dont feel it was directly aimed at you spaniel, it was a generalisation of the whole topic :)
 
I only know of 2 staffies personally and they are both beautiful family dogs although one of them needs watching with other dogs (as does my Heinz 57).

It's not the dogs is it? Stupid wannabe hard men young idiot owners who have no idea on what makes a good owner and want to look hard. Makes me sick.
 
I just can't understand how the woman at the start could just go and hand the dog in such a calm fashion! I can think of very few instances that I would ever give up my dog, would have to be very dire straits indeed - all avenues exhausted. If I did find myself in that situation I would be a jabbering mess - not calm and smiley!!!

Had a staffy X years ago (rescue) had been handed in for snapping at a child apparently - very sweet, happy, loving little dog she was, growled once in the twelve years I had her - the day I had to lift her into the car to take her on her final journey, but was obviously in pain. Would be destroyed on being handed in I guess, these days.

Really don't know what the solution is though :(
 
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I never saw as Im at work but I reallt don't need to as this is my life anyway, I would hope it would make the people it needs to open their eyes, but I doubt it will, in regard to aggressive dogs or certian breed type which show aggression towards other dogs, as much as we can ll think "it could go as an only dog" you have to be aware there are no enough capable people out there to deal with these behaiours and types of dogs and weather living with another dog or not, they still can pose a risk in uncapable hands, to other dogs in the public, mine/yours, so the more sensible option is to pts im afraid, we don't do this, but every aggressive dog we have is socialised and their problems worked with, but this takes immense amounts of time, meaning the dog remains in rescue (costs) we have to work with our own dogs (risks) and find a capable home to keep the dog socialised (not easy).

If people jsut thought past the cute puppy look, and imagine the dog as a not so cute adult with issues, there would not be so much demand and people jsut buying anything (simply because they are cute and a puppy) esp those who have no clue or even have the capability to offer the dog the life it needs and the training, the majority of bull breeds we are handed in are handed in as aggressive and unsociable dogs, and yes so are others but no wher enear as many and not capable of the same danmage should they be placed back in the wrong hands.

Sorry I had to explain:o a bit long winded.
 
Very sad viewing,and yes staffies and bull terriers..well we always say they are "special dogs for special people".Far too many are being bred ,the real disaster for staffies is that they are good and easy little mums,so any idiot can (and does) churn them out .My own breed,bull terriers ,are def not good or easy mums,to a certain extent that has saved them so far.BUT our bull terrier Welfare is also starting to groan under the pressure of the recession and over breeding.HOWEVER..today is a GREAT DAY..we had a little staffie girlie in ,usual "owner going into rented" reason..she came in on Friday.Things looked very bleak..but today she is REHOMED!! Chuffed to bits .:D:D:D
 
Very sad viewing, however I'm am a bit angry at the 'aggression' test Battersea undertook with Brandy the dog. I don't know a lot about dogs being a first time owner of only 18 months, however even I wouldn't introduce two un-neutered males head on. To be honest my own dog would have failed that test and yes he would have shown extreme interest, pulling towards the other dog and possibly grumbled down the lead (off lead he would be fine of course), but he's not aggressive by any means. I appreciate they may have done further tests that we weren't privvy to but I'm afraid if that was the only basis of their decision to PTS then I'm flabbergasted.
 
Very sad viewing, however I'm am a bit angry at the 'aggression' test Battersea undertook with Brandy the dog
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Battersea have issued a statement on their website saying that viewers only saw a snapshot of the testing that was done, and filmed.
 
MDJO said:
Very sad viewing, however I'm am a bit angry at the 'aggression' test Battersea undertook with Brandy the dog. I don't know a lot about dogs being a first time owner of only 18 months, however even I wouldn't introduce two un-neutered males head on. To be honest my own dog would have failed that test and yes he would have shown extreme interest, pulling towards the other dog and possibly grumbled down the lead (off lead he would be fine of course), but he's not aggressive by any means. I appreciate they may have done further tests that we weren't privvy to but I'm afraid if that was the only basis of their decision to PTS then I'm flabbergasted.
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I thought the same, I know that we didnt see all of the test but very many dogs would have failed the test we saw on tv.
I ralise that they are very overcrowded and have to make space for other dogs more likely to be able to be rehomed, but how many pet dogs will growl at others when on the lead?
Its time something was done to stop the over breeding of these dogs, as the man on tv said people care more for their tv than for a living animal. You also need a licence for a tv but not a dog.
 
I posted on the thread in SB about this, like Cayla I wasn't too shocked as sadly all too aware of the situation in rescue centres. I did think the aggression test was strange so not surprised it seems we only saw a little bit of it. I agree some of the rescues need to be more flexible when rehoming, but the main thing is that somehow BYBs must be stopped.
 
The test makes more sense now... I believed the dog in question could be rehomed as an only dog because of the behaviour test shown to us on the tv. My dogs would fail the test, especially the puppy who will do anything to go an say hello to other dogs (we are working on this), the coverage on the tv did not (in my mind) justify the animal being PTS.

I even feel a tad guilty now for buying a puppy rather than taking on a rescue dog.
 
Im going against the majority here but Brandys body language on the snippet of film we saw was all set up to go in teeth gnashing. He was rigid, low rumble growling and on the verge of attacking the other dog.

Who in their right minds would offer him as a rehomer??? I wouldnt.

From the statement issued I read it that a lot more work was done with this dog before the decision was made to euthanise. Theres no home for life with the rescue centres (well in the main) so there was no option.

Id be interested to see what the dog forums are making of this.
 
I didn't see most of the program as I knew I would be upset. Unfortunatly as someone else has said the people over breeding will not take any notice and carry on. In all the local papers including the daily paper(Express and Star0 there is usually eight or nine staffy litters every day. In a local town ( Kidderminster) a rescue has been set up to deal just with staffies(Happy Staffy Rescue) and when I last spoke to someone from the rescue they said they had a waiting list to get in . And meanwhile ***** keep breeding and you just know where they will end up.:(
 
CAYLA said:
I never saw as Im at work but I reallt don't need to as this is my life anyway, I would hope it would make the people it needs to open their eyes, but I doubt it will, in regard to aggressive dogs or certian breed type which show aggression towards other dogs, as much as we can ll think "it could go as an only dog" you have to be aware there are no enough capable people out there to deal with these behaiours and types of dogs and weather living with another dog or not, they still can pose a risk in uncapable hands, to other dogs in the public, mine/yours, so the more sensible option is to pts im afraid, we don't do this, but every aggressive dog we have is socialised and their problems worked with, but this takes immense amounts of time, meaning the dog remains in rescue (costs) we have to work with our own dogs (risks) and find a capable home to keep the dog socialised (not easy).

If people jsut thought past the cute puppy look, and imagine the dog as a not so cute adult with issues, there would not be so much demand and people jsut buying anything (simply because they are cute and a puppy) esp those who have no clue or even have the capability to offer the dog the life it needs and the training, the majority of bull breeds we are handed in are handed in as aggressive and unsociable dogs, and yes so are others but no wher enear as many and not capable of the same danmage should they be placed back in the wrong hands.

Sorry I had to explain:o a bit long winded.
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Very well written, I am a Staffie Owner... I have never actually owned another breed of dog and I understand completely that these dogs need experienced homes who are able to work through their issues! I have been extremely lucky with my current dog... he was found wandering the streets and on his last rites at the pound when a rescue in scotland offered him a temporary home... We were thorough investigated by the rescue before being allowed to bring Fudge home... This included talks from the rescuer with my Dog Trainer and my Vet to confirm to her that he was indeed going to an experienced home. We got lovely references from both...

I am currently looking into ways that I can help as many of these dogs as I can find experienced loving homes...
 
You are quite right Spaniel, Brandy the staffie from Battersea,was bristleing and eye balling ,about to pounce.The staffie rehomed yesterday was nose to nose (thru` weldmesh) to one of my own bull terriers,Dorothy on her own patch was swearing and saying "and who the f..are you?"..this little staffie froze,tail up..and then "shrugged" and turned away.Good reaction. Neither breed is suiotable for everyone,and far too many are being churned out.As for the dope who thought anyone paying £250 for a puppy would look after it???!!!!!
 
I watched this programme and coming from the east end of london i witness every day people/Youths with Staffies/Mastiffs/Akitas & numerous cross bred puppies. These pups are wearing chains round there necks that are twice as heavy as they are and to be honest ( i am not racist in any shape or form) the majority of these people are young muslim/pakistani boys who seem to think these dogs are a sign of strength. What i can not understand is that i thought that dogs are not part of there culture and are classed as dirty. So i ask myself what the hell chance do these dogs/pups have. It is also every other creed colour of people who have these dogs and have no idea what it takes to look after an animal.

I have seen pups dead in parks and not so long ago a young pitbull cross was found screaming in the boot of a car, the dog was rescued but died 48 hours later. They talk about micro chipping/License etc, who will enforce this and what will it cost? If you were to approach the majority of young youth/yob's in London you run a very high risk of being verbally or physically attacked.

I am an animal lover and feel nothing but frustration when i see another young pup being dragged along on a chain for show, but i know if i were to call the police or the RSPCA they would do nothing. There responce would be the animal is in good health or it looks fine, but yet you only have to sit and watch the panorama programme and see this is not the case. After all said and done i do not know how you will stop this as unfortunately it is the same world over supply & demand and that goes for evey animal species on this planet. Sad but very true and i say with a heavy heart that at least when they are PTS they have no more mental or physical pain/frustration/wanting in there lives.

This is my view only and if i have offended any one in any shape or form i apologise but everything i have wrote is what i see going on evey day and how i feel about what is happening.
 
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Very sad viewing,and yes staffies and bull terriers..well we always say they are "special dogs for special people".Far too many are being bred ,the real disaster for staffies is that they are good and easy little mums,so any idiot can (and does) churn them out .My own breed,bull terriers ,are def not good or easy mums,to a certain extent that has saved them so far.BUT our bull terrier Welfare is also starting to groan under the pressure of the recession and over breeding.HOWEVER..today is a GREAT DAY..we had a little staffie girlie in ,usual "owner going into rented" reason..she came in on Friday.Things looked very bleak..but today she is REHOMED!! Chuffed to bits .:D:D:D
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And the follow up is that "Daisy" is fine,loved and going nowhere,so she at least has her forever home now:D
 
Just watched it on the IPlayer - just awful:( And that woman handing her dog in! How could she be so cold about it?

If I thought a dog licence would solve the issues I would be right behind it, but I don't. Question is, what would? A licence to breed dogs with heavy fines for unlicenced breeders? But who would enforce it? Compulsory chipping - but will the bad dog owners bother? What is the answer? I just don't know:(
 
I wimped out Im afraid, saw the trailers and knew I would be in tears after 5 minutes. Seeing my own 3 spangles asleep on the sofa without a care in the world, I just cant bring myself to watch things like this. About 15 years ago I had a little staffie girl, a rescue case. My son was 10 at the time, I had 2 cats and didnt feel I could manage a pup at the time. Emily was the only dog in the rescue centre at the time that matched my criteria (small/medium, about 3 yrs old and able to be home alone for a few hours), I had Em for 10 years, she was wonderful with all my sons friends, fine wth our cats, although strange cats were fair game, accepted my subsequent ESS puppy into the pack with no hesitation and all in all a brilliant little all round family dog. It makes me incredibly angry when I see these lovely little dogs blinged up in their studded collars with some idiot owner at the other end, an absolute classic case of "no bad dogs, just bad owners". There now, that turned into a mini rant, and not much rattles me, but ill treatment of animals, cant abide it!
 
Spudlet, there already is a Breeding Licence, anyone with more than 2 bitches of breeding age is supposed to have a licence from their local council. Trouble is its very poorly enforced, and different councils apply different criteria, some will issue a licence without even visiting the breeder.:( I wish I knew what the answer was but like you I really don't know.
 
I was thinking this thorugh last night and the only option I can come up with is that ALL non breeding dogs MUST, by law, be speyed/neutered. It should become a criminal offence to own or be responsible for a dog or bitch capable of breeding.

The only exceptions should be registered breeders who should pay a decent amount of money to hold their licenses. This doesnt mean that only pedigrees are bred, your standard mongrel owner could apply to be a breeder - I love mongrels - but it must cost and it must be rigorously policed.

Standard 'dog licensing' isnt going to work There will be folks like you and me who would run out tomorrow and buy a licence for each of their dogs but the 'others' wouldnt bother.

Whatever comes out of this mess has got to be properly enforced or it becomes futile.
 
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