Has something happened at Appleby?

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It's just that I've seen lots of people and horses on their way back out.....which usually doesn't happen for at least a week yet.

My drive home is along the main route and I must have seen about 20 or 30 people towing caravans who had obviously been there (trying not to generalise but they were being pulled by the usual kind of vans etc or pickups with traps in the back) and a few Romany caravans with horses at the side of the road. Even when they do leave they don't usually get this far that quickly, they take their time about it.

Anyone heard anything?
 
pah!
just clicked on another story from that page and read this about them being 'encouraged' to have passports for the horses

Organisers have warned any horse found straying at the fair, or taken into possession by the police, will be difficult to return to its owner if they do not have a passport as it is a *definitive proof of ownership.*

again, pah!
 
The polie presence was more extreme this year, they did not like it, shame. The pubs did not open this year as it is not worth their while, they get them peeing up against the bar and pooing in the corners, last year the loos and the urinals were all smashed. The cost of the clean up negates the takings. If they behaved less like savages then the pubs would open, they are the ones that have ruined it forthemselves. Would you like your business premisses abused in that way! That is why the are leaving early. Good. Now we might get back to some normality.
 
The polie presence was more extreme this year, they did not like it, shame. The pubs did not open this year as it is not worth their while, they get them peeing up against the bar and pooing in the corners, last year the loos and the urinals were all smashed. The cost of the clean up negates the takings. If they behaved less like savages then the pubs would open, they are the ones that have ruined it forthemselves. Would you like your business premisses abused in that way! That is why the are leaving early. Good. Now we might get back to some normality.


See this is what amazes me. The travellers appear genuinely surprised that the pubs are closed and don't understand why. Are they so removed from the etiquette of civilised people they don't realise that this is disgusting behaviour. I am near Wickham where they have a horse fair in May and the local business's close as does the garage cos they are all so sick of being robbed. One chap this year had £10,000 worth of catalytic converters pinched, the garage had numerous drive offs, my neighbour attended her horses and had her handbag pinched.

Why are they so surprised businesses close.
 
I just dont get the pooing thing, I went to visit a site last week that had been comandeered by travellers for a while. There were some disused buldings that had been stripped, but what is worse is the piles of poo, complete with soft embossed toilet roll - why is this?
 
I just dont get the pooing thing, I went to visit a site last week that had been comandeered by travellers for a while. There were some disused buldings that had been stripped, but what is worse is the piles of poo, complete with soft embossed toilet roll - why is this?

This has made me smile, at least they wipe their arse I suppose. You would think that it might be easier to use a lavatory instead of carrying soft embossed toilet roll around with you! Only the best will do!! Certain standards must be necessary!?
 
That is so disgusting!!! Dont blame the locals for shutting up shop. My OH worked for a Ford garage near Doncaster and the travellers/gypsies whatever they like to be called, caused so much harrassment and upset when they wanted their vehicles repairing for nothing. They were threatening and abusive and generally very nasty. Glad he doesnt work there anymore - nasty pikes.
 
See this is what amazes me. The travellers appear genuinely surprised that the pubs are closed and don't understand why. Are they so removed from the etiquette of civilised people they don't realise that this is disgusting behaviour. I am near Wickham where they have a horse fair in May and the local business's close as does the garage cos they are all so sick of being robbed. One chap this year had £10,000 worth of catalytic converters pinched, the garage had numerous drive offs, my neighbour attended her horses and had her handbag pinched.

Why are they so surprised businesses close.

Myself and my daughter had handbags pinched/cars broken into 2 years running at Wickham fair time.
 
The polie presence was more extreme this year, they did not like it, shame. The pubs did not open this year as it is not worth their while, they get them peeing up against the bar and pooing in the corners, last year the loos and the urinals were all smashed. The cost of the clean up negates the takings. If they behaved less like savages then the pubs would open, they are the ones that have ruined it forthemselves. Would you like your business premisses abused in that way! That is why the are leaving early. Good. Now we might get back to some normality.

Crikey. Now i've heard it all.
They used to be an instant crimewave when they moved to the Wellingborough area every year (back when they actually travelled around), mum's business used to take repeated hits - diesel siphoned out every night, gearboxes dropped out of Bedford TKs (remember those?!), anything not welded down got stolen (from supposedly secure compound.) This isn't bigotry, it's fact. Mum got to know all the police officers personally, she saw them so frequently about it all!
Fwiw, a friend's mum was born a Romany and was the loveliest, sweetest person. Btw, friend's family weren't thieves...!
 
Crikey. Now i've heard it all.
They used to be an instant crimewave when they moved to the Wellingborough area every year (back when they actually travelled around), mum's business used to take repeated hits - diesel siphoned out every night, gearboxes dropped out of Bedford TKs (remember those?!), anything not welded down got stolen (from supposedly secure compound.) This isn't bigotry, it's fact. Mum got to know all the police officers personally, she saw them so frequently about it all!
Fwiw, a friend's mum was born a Romany and was the loveliest, sweetest person. Btw, friend's family weren't thieves...!
Im sure most arnt Romany.... just people or there recent forbares who have chosen a alternative lifestyle which puts up two fingers to the rest of society........hence the saying..***** ***** do as you likey.......
 
or heres a novel idea.............
maybe they just left early as it was pissing down with rain

Just what i was about to say.
When it rains there it realy rains and people leave.
There was a peaceful demonstration on Sunday where a great deal was sorted out - supported by local people!!!!
http://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/l...86d32f&n=7115a31e-a4b3-46f8-9ee7-7696fca34a34
This has been edited a great deal. I have a photo of the Vhief of Police taking down a sign that the police agreed should not have been up.
http://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/website/Home.htm
Just because i like this:)
http://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/videolist.aspx?c=73e6ef08-2881-4865-9f5b-6a3ee39e0787

P.S. I understand both sides of the argument but i find things out first hand - not hearsay.

Good and bad in all.
 
More on the pooing.....

my daughter went to a school for a short time that had a lot of traveller at and she would come back most day and say she would not go to the toilet cus they poo in the sink!!!! why poo in a sink when there is a toilet in the same room? they would also poo on the playing field!!! i moved school after one term cus could not cope with it.
 
With regard to the Wickham Horse Fair, one bit of good news -

"Good News!
3 x stolen Ifor Williams HB505R horse trailers recovered at the Wickham Horse Fair. What assisted this was numbers being taken. Please make sure that you record all numbers or individual marks on property. Take photos of it! It makes it easier to identify. You might think you look daft taking a picture of a chainsaw or hedge trimmer, but it does help to identify stuff!"

I joined the countrywatch scheme in Hampshire. I regularly get text message updates on 'travellers' movements - which actually worries me at times as I am 14 miles from my yard when I am at work all day - sometimes think I would rather not know! Then once a week or so there is an update on the 'week's happenings!' In the past I have had electric fencing equipment stolen (should not have moved it to the middle of the field!) and a friend had her trailer stolen. This has resulted in us painting postcodes on the roofs of horse trailers and taking photos of them. They are also now locked in a barn out of sight and out of temptations way. It never ceases to amaze me how many people leave their trailers in full view of roads - the thieves do seem to 'favour' the Ifor Williams (I don't have one of these for this reason). When it is Wickham Fair time we are all extra vigilant, but pleased to note that they don't seem to have ventured our way for a couple of years now - huge sigh of relief. But I know they are 'mucky' people as there is a 'camp' close to our home, their dogs are often wandering loose scavenging in bins, they nick the railings on the footpath across the by-pass (my OH has caught them doing it!) and the site itself looks a real blot on the landscape especially viewed from the by-pass above - amidst otherwise beautiful countryside! And is it my imagination or do they seem to be 'plumbed-in' to the electricity pylon running through the site!!??
I was talking to someone recently who said they had been out walking and saw a man 'bob down' as she approached and she was horrified to see that he had been 'taking a dump!' as she put it and then she came across the caravans and the rest of them. Yuk.
 
There was a small mare left and abandoned on Fair Hill with a broken pelvis, she was left to suffer until someone got in touch with the vets, and she was put down. There were 300 cases of cruelty reported. Please those that think that this Fair should go on, think again.
 
I have to say I am sat here reading all about poo and laughing till I almost cry.

I dont know maybe its just me but there is something about the word that makes me laugh.

However got to say that I find the thought of it being anywhere but in a toilet and nicely flushed away disgusting. I mean when my hubby took me on holiday to Greece I was sincerely mortified to find that I had to put my toilet paper in a basket and not down the loo. I was so truly shocked by this that I would not eat anything, other than food I prepared for myself, for the first week until I got over the shock! Maybe I am just analy-retentive! (sorry for spelling).:) :) :)
 
Can we stop the nursery babble and call it what it is please? When people talk about "poo picking" with regard to removing horse droppings..my teeth itch.
 
East Kent, if you are trying to avoid "nursery words", you might prefer to use the correct term "faeces", rather than the ultra-coy "droppings". Lots of things drop off my horse, including poo, sweat, hair and occasionally me.
 
Can we stop the nursery babble and call it what it is please? When people talk about "poo picking" with regard to removing horse droppings..my teeth itch.

Would you rather I say to my 12 year old son it's time to 'sh*t-pick' instead......?

No, sorry.....poo-picking remains. It's easier to say anyway than anything else!

:D
 
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