Has the discipline of horse management gone out the window in modern times???

Doogal said:
If I remember rightly, Jill's father went to Africa for a few months, Jill's mother received a cable saying he had contracted a fever but they never heard from him again :eek:

Pretty traumatic you'd think, but you'd never know it as he doesn't get a mention after that!
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I seem to remember he ran off with someone from the women's institute because there was never anyone home to fetch his slippers or cook dinner.

They were all too busy religiously cleaning tack and filling haynets made from baling twine.
 
To worm for Bots after fasting for 24 hours
1
Creolin 2 drachms
Turpentine 1½ ounces
Linseed Oil to 1 pint

2
Benzene 1 ounce
Tincture of Iodine ½ ounnce
Linseed Oil to 1 pint

3
Creosote 1 drachm
Chloroform 2 drachms
Turpentine 1½ ounces
Linseed Oil to 1 pint

To worm for Tapeworm after 24 - 36 hours fasting
1
Turpentine 60ml
Male Fern Extract 4ml
Linseed Oil to 1 pint

2
Kamala (a lotus plant) 30 grammes
or Freshly ground areca (betel) nut 30 to 45 grams

To worm for Roundworm
Piperazine 10 grammes per 100lbs
Phenothiazine may be toxic to some horses
Given in food with mollases

To worm for Thread worms
Piperazine adipate 10 grammes per 100lbs
Along with
Application of mercuric or carbolic ointment around the anus
A saline enema is also suggested

Some lovely notes
Spraying dung patches in pasture with Jeyes Fluid for removal of redworm
Obviously this will involve a good deal of labour; but in not a few places it has been carried out most efficiently by a conscientious old groom or stable hand who is not fit for hard work, but who is interested enough to be happy 'mooching' about the patures among the horses with his barrow and shovel for most of the day.

All the worms which are observed to come away from the horse, whether naturally or by the influence of medicine, should be thrown into a fire or into boiling water, so as to cut short their power of evil.

Veterinary Notes for Horse Owners First Edition 1877 by Captain M Horace Hayes FRCVS
 
On a visit to the Mets mounted division museum I saw a daily diary for the vets attention and the amount of sore back entries were quadruple the other entries. So sore backs were just as common in the working animals back in time.
Worming? A plug of tobacco shoved over the throat took care of that!
 
littlelegs said:
I can't remember what happened to kills father.
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Maybe that explains what happened to Jill's father.......I don't remember him ever being mentioned....but then again, I don't remember Ann having a father either, and the ones who had a father never seemed to have a mother....:confused:

And I've completely forgotten what the OP was about!
 
Single parents? Not working? No wonder they can afford a pony........ Oh hang on, is that just modern times..... :D
 
Ann had a father because he had a horse box which he let them use once.
I remember thinking why does he have a horse box and why do they still hack everywhere? And if he doesn't like using the horse box, then why have it?
 
JennyNZ said:
Laughing and spitting coffee all over my keyboard .....


So another burning question from my child hood - when the Famous Five went on their jolly camping hols, were was the loo?

'cos being in the colonies and all that, Dad always had to dig a long drop, but they never did. Just asking :D
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Standard rough camping rules, one presumes. Never any discussion of such arrangements. I was always envious that none of them ever seemed to need the loo at awkward moments - never locked in a room/cave/dungeon crossing their legs desperately to avoid peeing in front of their cousins/brothers/sister, always ready to rush off in search of mystery at a moment's notice without popping "into the woods" first.

Bitter, I am.
 
Yep he definitely did. It was mentioned in one book where they went to a show in it and then never again.

I loved the Jill books so much!

Even though I could never comprehend how in the first book she had just completely failed to notice that she had a stable at the bottom of the garden....
 
armchair_rider said:
That's the railway children.

Possibly Jill as well, I never read them :eek:

And it was Noel in the Pullein-Thompson Noel and Henry books that had an archeaologist father. (Great books by the way and a couple have been republished quite recently - six ponies and one day event)

Personally I thought that the topic of the thread was entirely reasonable but that the OP's initial post didn't lend itself to a serious discussion. The trolling accusations were a bit harsh. But the Perkins stuff was hilarious.


Clarissa dear do you actually have a pony or just the collection of legs you mentioned? (p8 I think)
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Can't believe I'm still reading this thread :D. Yes, Clarissa Dandleby here again. All I can say is, don't get me started on my collection of horse legs - I have tramatised a largeish group of local tradesmen, and now have a reputation locally as either a witch or a member of the mafia.

I do also have a complete horse, for the record (with no mud on his legs ;)).

horse box which he let them use once.
I remember thinking why does he have a horse box and why do they still hack everywhere? And if he doesn't like using the horse box, then why have it
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Petrol rationing, of course ;-)

I also now remember the discovery of the stable, and all that scrubbing and decobwebbing. I am SURE I would notice a stable at the bottom of my garden (have a piggery instead, but I am sure, given time, I will be able to make it resemble a stable. With whitewash, and lashings of ginger beer.
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ferguson

"In the first book in the series, Jill's Gymkhana, Jill's father has recently died, and she moves with her mother to a small cottage near the fictional village of Chatton. Her mother hopes to support them both as a children's author (shades of E. Nesbit's classic The Railway Children). Jill is at first a social outcast in "horsy" Chatton because she doesn't own a pony and can't ride. When her mother's stories finally begin to sell, however, the first thing she buys is a pony for her daughter. With hard work and the expert assistance of Martin Lowe, a wheelchair-using former Royal Air Force pilot, Jill becomes a star of Chatton equitation."

I always wanted to live in Chatton!!
 
If this post does not make the top 3 Forum posts mentioned in H&H, then the whole thing is a swizz......I have loved this thread, and it has made me laugh two nights in a row - when there is not much happening at the moment, that is fun (work related - not horse, though don't get me talking about the git who is being difficult to be shod at the moment - maybe the subject of a separate post, or maybe not........!)
Perkins / pony books / outrage at the general principles of whether OP is right or wrong in relation to standards today compared to yesterday.
Fantastic - well done everyone for thier wonderful contributions - it is this type of post that makes H&H Forum fun, and entertaining - with a few good nuggets of advice picked up along the way!
 
I have a horse book from 1911 which has an entire chapter devoted to giving alcohol to your horse.

Sugegstion for worming 1/2 pint linseed oil, 2 tablespoons turps 1 tablespoon camphor
 
Now if you want to go back....I have the full set (9 volumes) of "The Horse, its Treatment in Health & Disease" by Prof. Wortley-Axe - they belonged to my Grandad who was an old horseman. There's a lot of stuff in there that would make you cringe, but also a lot that is very relevant even today. We all live and learn...!
 
Doris68 said:
Now if you want to go back....I have the full set (9 volumes) of "The Horse, its Treatment in Health & Disease" by Prof. Wortley-Axe - they belonged to my Grandad who was an old horseman. There's a lot of stuff in there that would make you cringe, but also a lot that is very relevant even today. We all live and learn...!
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Doris - are they bound in green and contain the most amazing drawings you could ever imagine?

If so they are wonderful - I would kill to get hold of those books. My old boss has a set - and I am plucking up the courage to ask him if I can buy them from him.

The drawings of the disections are so detailed - nothing like you ever see these days.
 
Tnavas said:
Doris - are they bound in green and contain the most amazing drawings you could ever imagine?

If so they are wonderful - I would kill to get hold of those books. My old boss has a set - and I am plucking up the courage to ask him if I can buy them from him.

The drawings of the disections are so detailed - nothing like you ever see these days.
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Yes, Tnavas, those are the books, bound in green with wonderful drawings and coloured prints of horses. You're a bit too far away, or else you could borrow them! I'm very lucky to have them. I hope you make a successful bid to buy them from your old boss..!!

Doris
 
zigzag said:
What is a gymslip?
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A very unflattering school uniform

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