have 5 stage vet cert but within year horse blind - HELP

sprite1978 said:
If the horse has always been blind to this degree, he is negligent for not spotting it. If the blindness has progressed, he was incorrect in his statement. Either way, by playing down its significance, he has influenced your buying decision.
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But not the case if the horse has developed a different condition. Cataracts and uveitis (aka moonblindness) are two different conditions. It is quite possible that the uveitis has only occured in the last 10 months, or it is possible that the horse has had it for a number of years. It would also be possible that the cataracts are a result of damage within the eye due to the uveitis, but without a diagnosis of that condition at the time of vetting, and no previous history, the original vet would argue that the condition that has blinded the horse has occurred post vetting so is not his responsibility. It would be very difficult to prove that the horse had uveitis before the vetting.
 
SO1 said:
Moon blindness and cataracts are two different unrelated eye conditions. The cataracts may not have got worse and may not be causing the deterioration in sight so the original vet may be correct.

I think moon blindness can sometimes be treated with eye drops.
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Did you read the link I put on an earlier post?
 
The vet did pick it up, he did tell you about it, he gave an opinion on what it may do, but only an opinion. I am not sure how you will go legally, but he does have some wriggle room.

I have bought a pony with a cloudy eye, the vet said it may progress to blindness or it may not, could not say, but that it probably would not happen quickly. It has been probably 5 years now since we bought her and she seems okay. (But have not had eye checked again).

Was the mare insured? Did the insurance preclude any problems with eye?
 
mare isnt insured as i have 8 so would cost a small fortune as cheapest polo insurance i was quoted was £43 per horse per month for 12 months (even though only worked april - sept). plus insurance would wriggle out anyway as could be classed as ''previous problem''

beginning to feel the £598 5 stage vetting + xrays was not worth paper written on if vetting only lasts for ''the day its done''

i am getting 2nd opinion hopefully tomorrow but doesnt look good. bloody nightmare. always happens to the good ones.
 
Moonblindness is NOT the same as cataracts. Moonblindness is the old name for uveitis which can be devastating as it can affect both eyes. You need a new vet and I'd sue the backside off the 1st one. He has categorically stated that the "cataracts" (that's if it IS cataracts) won't deteriorate and will not affect the horse's work. Got that a bit wrong didn't he? Mind you, I wouldn't trust the 2nd vet's diagnosis either, especially if they're from the same practice. Get a referral pdq, making sure your vets know why you're doing it. Then contact a reputable equine solicitor.
 
leonh said:
on my vet report it says in black and white "cataracts are unlikely to be interfering with the horses ability to see and are unlikely to progress to do so""
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I think the sticking point here is the word 'unlikely' which is not at all the same as 'will not' :(
 
Did the vet mention about having the cataracts operated on? Its not a simple op like in humans but can be done quiet successfully! Moonblindness is uvitis, you would or, I hope you would of noticed if your horse had developed this, as he would be in alot of pain and the eye would be very red and watery. This condition on its own will cause cataracts in later life and possibly glaucoma. It wont necessarily be in both eyes either, that’s a common misconception, Ive just bought a horse who had uvitis a few years ago, and his sight is fine however I am under no illusions that he will develop cataracts sooner than the average horse, but I try to help him buy adding a UV fly mask i find guardian masks are the best as the less UV he is exposed to the slower the cataract development. Also I use an artificial tear as he 'bad eye' waters alot, you can get them off your vet at 50% more than the chemist, Viscotears I use. Speak to a different vet for a second opinion and also look into cataract ops, there expensive around £5k (here that is) are his eyes covered on the insurance??
 
Leonh - This is a post you posted about a month ago
hello

Can anyone recommend a freelance instructor to come to my farm to teach me the basics?? i.e: how to get my 15h andalusian sweetheart to 'get on the bit, trot in a circle, and how to set up trotting poles'!! .... all the basics need to be gone through as i am a self taught 30 yr old who has recently got back into horses and never ever schooled a horse nor ever had a lesson. My pony is 6yrs, very willing and very green!

i am located in Billingshurst West Sussex

thanks!!

I'm somewhat concerned that you you claim to have imported an andalusian which has behavioural problems and now an appy with blindness probelms and that you play polo. I wouldn't have thought you should be spending so much money on buying horses unadvised if you need someone to teach you the basics.
 
Yes indeed!!!
"""my 6 polo ponies, who have autumn and winter off work, shoeless and rugless grazing in 30 acres, but who work solidly playing polo and kept at slim fighting weight from march thru to august are all on diets before they start walk work in march! they are all TB blood and were imported from new zealand, argentina, chile and ireland are out over winter 24/7 with no rugs (1st yr done it - horses much preferred it, and i honestly believe stayed warmer) with just natural shelter (hedges and trees) and ad-lib hay .. must admit been feeding them all small meals daily of alpha-a, baileys high fibre 'at rest' mix, speedibeat, garlic, vits and minerals. . . but literally only handful of each with a carrot, mainly to keep pecking order (me as boss) luckily i can feed them all in field no bother (well occasional high jinx from the 6yr old), they all line up, in pecking order and wait to be given a bucket. also find this stops them turning completely feral and gives me chance to do daily once over. we are quite rural and they are not taken out of huge field (like i said i let them run free in all our 30 acres) Aug to March . . however 3 wks ago i was asked by couple on public footpath, who walk it regularly, when my horses were going to foal as '''they are huge, they must be ready to drop, and the ginger ones looks like its started nesting in the hay''' ... (3 of them are geldings - including the ginger 'nesting' one ) so asked a couple of horsey pals to take a look. and yes. they are obese. and it isnt their long fur. its fat. i was killing them with kindness. so feed has been weaned off and all but stopped, now they get a large handful of happy-hoof. .. and a carrot.... and they are now on last yrs hay and cut field down to 10 acres. walking work starts mid march so until then, going to try to 'slim' them down by not so much hay (they have two huge round bales every week) and letting them graze the crappy grass. short of chasing them round in my dune buggy once a day i dont know what else to do.

my idea of letting them get a bit porky to get thru winter has backfired on me!!! """

Me thinks the troll needs to get back under her bridge to continue her fantasies, and have you made up your mind yet about whether the andalusian is a mare or gelding???
 
Here is one reply about the andalusian:
i used rig calm, went thru two buckets of it then weaned him off. mine is an andalusian 6yr old had just been castrated in spain before arriving with me and my 2 mares .. oops ... yes, it calmed him down, as in, waited until he was at the fence before getting an erection. i used to slap his todger with anything to hand, and sometimes that itself, and say ''away'' quite firmly ... this cured it more than anything, and would only have to say 'away' and he would back off. within a month he would just gently nicker at them. And at all times he lived next to mares with normal oak fencing but a wire of electric on top on metal arms .... enough to say hello and smell but high enough to stop a leap .. although he got zapped loads..

and another talks about "her andalusian and her skin problems"

perhaps we have someone who owns a transexual andalusian, blind appy, obese polo ponies ( so far we've covered disability, sexuality, colour and weight) perhaps she'll have a muslim pony next:D
 
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EAST KENT said:
Surely a vetting is "on the day", he/she cannot/should not foretell how suitable for purpose the animal will be a year down the line.
My own mare vetted 5 star sound,but a year later developed a spavin..that is just life,NOT his fault.
As it is a mare you are in luck and she can at least have a purpose in breeding appis.
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^^^^
This. A 5 stage pre purchase examination is a record of the presented horse's state of health on that day.
 
Kateyb33 said:
What i find strange is that he owns 8 horses including one that cost '£5000' yet he cant afford lessons?!
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It would be strange if the 8 horses actually existed and he couldn't afford lessons, but since i think the 8 horses are in fact just figments of some twerp's imagination (and of course, it IS half-term) its not really strange at all.
 
trundle said:
It would be strange if the 8 horses actually existed and he couldn't afford lessons, but since i think the 8 horses are in fact just figments of some twerp's imagination (and of course, it IS half-term) its not really strange at all.
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umm yes very true!! :D
 
elsbells said:
I'd be amazed if anyone would be as foolish to breed from a blind mare!
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Uveitis is not hereditary so cannot be past on to the foal its normal cause from trauma to the eye my first mare had it now diamond has it one eye tho called vet every time it flairs up. her son does not have it
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No more hacking?? wow Biscuit continue to hack still her stroke even tho blind in one eye and only 30% in other she relied on me i told when pavement or obstacle by saying hup and she would lift her leg she would piss off in fields as long as she knew i had contact she was as safe to do this.....

Uveitis can start out of the blue , after trauma. I was on cholophencical and maxitrol now on optimune and maxitrol. there is no cure for uveitis just managing it calling the vet as soon as flare ups starts this saves sightst its important you get the atrophine in asap to dilate the pule thus reducing damage
 
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Box_Of_Frogs said:
Moonblindness is NOT the same as cataracts. Moonblindness is the old name for uveitis which can be devastating as it can affect both eyes. You need a new vet and I'd sue the backside off the 1st one. He has categorically stated that the "cataracts" (that's if it IS cataracts) won't deteriorate and will not affect the horse's work. Got that a bit wrong didn't he? Mind you, I wouldn't trust the 2nd vet's diagnosis either, especially if they're from the same practice. Get a referral pdq, making sure your vets know why you're doing it. Then contact a reputable equine solicitor.
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^^ I agree with this. You are paying for a committed professional opinion at a vetting. Vets should never second guess the future and your one did - he gave a professional assurance that the cartaracts will not deteriorate. Foolish vet!!
 
My friend has just had her pony operated on at Newmarket to have it's cataracts removed and now has improved vision. Although this is expensive and you may not be covered by insurance if it was a pre existing condition. It's worth an enquiry, seems sad to pts such a young horse without looking at other options. Good luck.
 
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