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hi everyone, back in spring of 2021 my horse developed a cough (the first time ever) on my suppliers (dusty) hay. The hay had been excellent quality until then (best I’d seen) but I knew he was running low (as he only sells it to us as a favour!) and didn’t want to be a pain so I tossed the rest of the shipment, put them on grass early, popped my horse onto steroids from the vet and watched him rapidly improve. He was fine, and after a few weeks our hay was ready and of fab quality- we cut it at home, and store it in our barn. I stack it by myself to insure it is well ventilated.
sadly, we never get enough to keep us going all through winter. As expected, it lasted until the new year. So we got a new shipment from the supplier.
I don’t know why- the hay seemed fine- but my poor boy started coughing. Our unbroken seemed a little stuffy on it, so I began soaking, used the old steroids again, and switched onto a different suppliers very expensive hay. Horse seemed better, was riding beautifully and then had to come in one day & night after the unbroken trashed the fence.
We suspect he ate some of his straw as he was coughing like a chain smoker (so bad he’s stiffened a muscle in his back…) and he was put back onto grass, and I scrubbed his stabled top to bottom (mats and all) and cleaned out our hay store. All pallets removed, swept out, and new pallets put in as there was some fungus on a couple ?
Here’s the thing- He had coughed once or twice all winter until put onto the boughten hay, but ours stays in our barn until it is needed and taken a bale at a time. It wasn’t put around the back. But the old suppliers hay was, as was the straw that he ate and set himself off with! However, both were dusty…
Is it the dust or the hay store? The new hay is now kept in the barn, which I was trying to keep clear for other things…
I am also soaking all hay now and he’s on shavings when he will come in ( leaving him out as long as I can now!)

I’m currently waiting for him to feel better, and he’s riding okay on steroids but came off them last night so will have to wait and see. If he’s worse I’ll call out the vet.
 

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The vet said last time that I could use it when or if he relapsed. I rang them when I started the course last week and they said i could.
 

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Once they have a sensitivity to dust, they always will usually. This is why I deal with coughs quickly when they occur. Could the hay store be getting damp? Condensation or leaks?
Everything was dry (I have always checked my bales thoroughly) but I think they got damp at the supplier? My poor horse is ruined and I honestly want to crawl into a ball and cry.
 

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Personally I would get rid of the mats. My horse used to cough when in and, although I did change other things like using Laysoft, I still think that the urine sitting under the mats affected his breathing.
 

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From experience, some horses are just very sensitive to dust spores, while others can eat dry hay all day long with no ill effect. All hay has SOME dust spores, no matter how well it was made, hence why steaming has become so popular. Soaking or steaming is the only way you’ll avoid the coughing in future, as it sounds like yours have developed an extreme sensitivity to it. I’ve got one that just needs his dunking for a couple of minutes to make it ok for him. The others all happily have the same hay dry, no coughing?
 

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i might possibly try to, although I’m hoping that if I wash them down in between uses (he only comes in when he has to). I also don’t like the floors in my stable as they are very uneven so the matting helps
Personally I would get rid of the mats. My horse used to cough when in and, although I did change other things like using Laysoft, I still think that the urine sitting under the mats affected his breathing.
 

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Not all haylage is the same.

I would look into haylage alternatives. If hes hungry then he will eat it.
He could
. Agree. My supplier has four different cuts. First being rocket fuel and the last looks like hay but smells like haylage. I have a second or third cut. And has never heated my sharp boy.
disagree. I’m not going to force my poor boy to eat something he doesn’t like unless I have to. He is also exceptionally sensitive to food- pony nuts and chaff push him over the edge! Our own hay doesn’t cause an issue either so far
 

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I just wanted to say, you have my sympathy as I'm in a similar situation - I bought my horse about 18 months ago now, and he started to cough after a few weeks on hay, around March last year. We have plenty of grazing so he wasn't getting hay at all until he ran out of grass in Feb. At the time I thought he'd picked something up on one of our outings; it turned into a chest infection and he was on steroids and quite poorly. I started to soak his hay as a precaution but I didn't think it was the root cause of the problem. This year, he is once again coughing after three weeks on (unsoaked) hay, and it's fairly clear to me now that it's a dust allergy. Back on the steroids and hopefully I caught it early enough this time that it won't turn into anything more unpleasant. I am once again soaking his hay but this is clearly something we're going to have to deal with long term so I need to start investigating wrapped hay and low calorie haylage etc.
 

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My laminitic pony has haylage as it is the lowest measured sugar/starch forage I could find. They mostly have foggage but when it runs out will have haylage as I don't want weight gain or laminitis. However it seems you don't really want suggestions so good luck I hope you find a solution
 

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disagree. I’m not going to force my poor boy to eat something he doesn’t like unless I have to. He is also exceptionally sensitive to food- pony nuts and chaff push him over the edge! Our own hay doesn’t cause an issue either so far

How can you disagree with someone's personal experience? Haylage is lower in sugar than hay due to the fermentation process. It's worth doing research before you disregard an idea...

I'd also have him on paper bedding if he were mine.
 

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I want suggestions which are actually going to help my horse dear. He won’t touch hayledge and my vet and nutritionist agree that this isn’t the right fit for him.
My laminitic pony has haylage as it is the lowest measured sugar/starch forage I could find. They mostly have foggage but when it runs out will have haylage as I don't want weight gain or laminitis. However it seems you don't really want suggestions so good luck I hope you find a solution
 

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How can you disagree with someone's personal experience? Haylage is lower in sugar than hay due to the fermentation process. It's worth doing research before you disregard an idea...

I'd also have him on paper bedding if he were mine.
I spoke to my vet, nutritionist and instructor- all in agreement that I shouldn’t give him hayledge.
 

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I just wanted to say, you have my sympathy as I'm in a similar situation - I bought my horse about 18 months ago now, and he started to cough after a few weeks on hay, around March last year. We have plenty of grazing so he wasn't getting hay at all until he ran out of grass in Feb. At the time I thought he'd picked something up on one of our outings; it turned into a chest infection and he was on steroids and quite poorly. I started to soak his hay as a precaution but I didn't think it was the root cause of the problem. This year, he is once again coughing after three weeks on (unsoaked) hay, and it's fairly clear to me now that it's a dust allergy. Back on the steroids and hopefully I caught it early enough this time that it won't turn into anything more unpleasant. I am once again soaking his hay but this is clearly something we're going to have to deal with long term so I need to start investigating wrapped hay and low calorie haylage etc.
I’m so sorry you’re going through this too. Fingers crossed that yours recovers quickly! Was he fine in between the sicknesses? If so it gives me hope I can get normality with mine… I’ve had mine for five years and he was fine until then…. He was in a terrible state when I bought him and we worked really hard to build the partnership we have now… only for him to get ill. I feel terrible that he’s ill, and I feel worse for him as he’s so keen to be out doing things but he can’t right now. When he was coughing the other day he was looking at me like “help me mum” and I couldn’t do a damn thing. It honestly broke my heart. I’m asthmatic as well so I know how he feels.
 

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Most important thing is to keep your stables dust free as otherwise the micro-dust will circulate and remain suspended in the air for your horse to breath in. Completely sweep and vacuum clean the sies and roof area of your stable on a regular basis to remove all the dust and cob webs.
 
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