have they missed a 0 off??!!

'preloved' - an appropriate term for this poor boy. Hope the owners do the right thing by him, or that should someone choose to buy him (fully aware of his faults), they do as bigboyrocky suggests.
 
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Samantha - if you think about it, he weaves and cribs. He probably stresses the weight off. I had one on my yard and the poor lass was scanned and found to be riddled with stomach ulcers too. Lovely mare, but soooo stressy, hence the need for company too I guess:(
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such a shame he cant be handed over to a rescue or someone where he can be guaranteed a retirement and companion home to live out his remaining years as he has been passed from pillar to post so many times, that alone is enough to cause even more stress to him. hope he can find a peaceful forever home and not rushed to be PTS unless on medical grounds. he sounds like he would be fine living out with a few other horses.
 
Bigboyrocky, you come across as a lovely person, so I feel bad asking but I also think I should... If you knew he was dangerous, why did you not take responsibility for him yourself? I have heard so many stories of people giving lame/crazy horses away to a supposedly 'loving home', only for these horses to be drugged and sold on a few weeks later... I have a lame fella, he would make a happy hacker if he wasn't so nuts... But I know that if I could no longer keep him, I would make the final decision.
 
CeeBee said:
'preloved' - an appropriate term for this poor boy.
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Actually I think if anyone who had previously owned this horse had thought anything of him then he would not be in the awful position he is now.

So an utterly INappropriate term IMO.
 
Bigboyrocky - I'm a little confused. Did you not say the following in March last year:

A few of you may remember me asking about giving away Radar (the 'problem' horse) 17.2.. was given to us... Well he has now gone to his new home! Went to a gay guy who he is going to have so much fun with... they gave us £500 (adveritesed for 800 to aviod buying for meat etc..) and he has settled in really well and he is in love with him! :P he wants to do some dressage with him, and possibly a tiny bit of hacking/jumping... only ridden 3 times a week and pamperd 24/7 so will be the perfect home for him!!
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A bit different to your claim on this thread that:

because we gave him to someone we very vaiguely knew as a field companion
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??

Regardless, very sad for the poor horse. It is a great shame that he has not yet found anybody willing to take responsibility for his future.
 
It's a bit much to contact the current owners telling them to PTS when bigboyrocky sold the horse for £500, knowing it was a problem; especially when it was a gift!!!!!

Unbelieveable!!!!!
 
I can still see the ad on preloved, it says

"Ideal Man's Hunter" 1,500 ONO

Description "Lovely looking, affectionate big TBx, 18Hh, dark bay with good bone. Very brave, loves to jump XC. Previous eventing sucess. 15 years old.
At Livery, with good Trial facilities. Lives in or out. Lacking condition currently, hence price. Worth while and easy project to bring back. We want a lovely home for this boy and are open to offers!!! "
 
Sorry Bigrocky but you should have taken responsibility for this horse before you decided to sell him on. Telling the new owner to PTS is a bit hypocritical of you to suggest when its something you should maybe have originally thought of.
 
Personally I think that given the right home this horse could be fine. I took on a new livery a couple of years ago who came with a reputation. His owner told me he may be a handful and other people including the farrier and woman at our local tack shop said he was a very difficult horse with serious issues. The previous YO said that he was dangerous and reared up at him and struck out. His owner said she could never tie him up without him pulling back and that he was a handful ridden. Well he moved to my yard and I have never had a problem with him in two years. In fact I would say he is the most reliable and calm horse on the yard! He can go 2 weeks without being ridden and is fine when you get back on him. He ties up no problem and is excellent and calm to handle.
 
Wagtail said:
Personally I think that given the right home this horse could be fine. I took on a new livery a couple of years ago who came with a reputation. His owner told me he may be a handful and other people including the farrier and woman at our local tack shop said he was a very difficult horse with serious issues. The previous YO said that he was dangerous and reared up at him and struck out. His owner said she could never tie him up without him pulling back and that he was a handful ridden. Well he moved to my yard and I have never had a problem with him in two years. In fact I would say he is the most reliable and calm horse on the yard! He can go 2 weeks without being ridden and is fine when you get back on him. He ties up no problem and is excellent and calm to handle.
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Are you going to spend some money then Wagtail?????
 
Having seen all the previous videos BigBoyRocky has psoted on here of said horse, you can see as Shilasdare has pointed out that the horse is LAME behind there is a definate problem in the loin/pelvis area, the horse constantly goes disunited, and I would imagine has severe pain at times, consequently he erupts!!! when the pain catches him.

I find this post absolutely appalling as someone else pointed this horse was SOLD not given away and he is obviously tormented inside, there should be a law against it!!!!
 
Sadly whenever there is money and animals involved then the animals come off worst.

Bigboyrocky has gone very quiet, I really hope this has made her think. It's awful that she SOLD a horse that was GIVEN to her instead of having him put to sleep when she could not cope with his problems. He is clearly lame and in pain.

Poor poor horse.
 
I have personally been brought up never to buy a horse/loan a horse if the first advert you see of it doesn't have a picture. I have gone against this once and the horse was nothing like the description. Sounds like he has a past.
 
Whilst I agree that the horse shouldn't have been sold / passed on in the first place, having clicked on bigboyrocky's link she appears to be 16 and therefore she cannot shoulder the blame all by herself, there must be a responsible adult in the mix somewhere.

However, hopefully she will have taken something from all this and realised that horses always have a reason for doing the things they do and next time she comes across a horse with 'issues' will take the responsibility rather than passing it on.
 
I didn't look at the videos first time round but I have now. How could you not know that that horse is in quite a bit of discomfort? It certainly explains why he didn't want to go in the school with the OP.

Wouldn't it be nice if someone could afford to take him in and get him looked at. He may well still make someone a lovely horse with his lameness issues looked at. I really feel for him being passed from pillar to post and no-one really caring enough to get to the bottom of his problems :-(
 
Doesn't look happy in the video thats for sure - and PLEASE the rider DONT sock him in the mouth for faffing about!! (at the beginning of the jumping vid)

Personally though, I think its crazy for people on here to shout about putting this horse to sleep when they've heard from ONE person. As many people know, horses can behave very differently with different people depending on a number of factors. Just because the horse was a nutter with the original owner, doesnt mean it is now. I'm not saying the horse isn't crazy, but you guys cannot make a judgement on one persons (a 16yo) comments! No offence intended, but with a very experienced rider, perhaps the horse could be ok - it did do some BE for a while so must have vaguely behaved at one point.
 
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personally I don't think he looks paticularly scary or dangerous to ride, agree he isn't 100% sound behind in the vid.
Just because he was difficult to manage in one home doesn't mean he will be difficult in the next, maybe the people selling him have him in a different routine so he is more settled. He is prob living out hence the lack of condition.
I was sold a horse that I was told was naughty to ride- spooks and bucks,couldn;t turn out and had to led in a chifney. I changed his routine and he is a total star to ride and do anything with.
 
Exactly. It annoys me when people shout about getting a horse PTS when they don't know it. I have no stable free at my yard, but if he has no medical history then the new owner could insure him and then have him investigated after a couple of months if he isn't sound. Might be a simple thing to put right, who knows? However, I wouldn't buy a horse like that, though I have been gifted horses before and sorted them out.
 
I have said this before, but I'll say it again - if you have a horse with a problem, and you can't sort it out, and you can't keep it, then you need to find a local home with people you know well ('vaguely' just doesn't cut it!) who can keep it, or maybe have more experience to sort it out. If you cannot do that, if you cannot be sure that this horse is going to be safe from harm and you cannot keep it yourself then you have to face up to your responsibility to that animal that you chose to take on, not just off-load it and wash your hands of it. That is how horses end up in welfare situations. They get passed from person to person to person, going a bit lower in value each time, from private sale to dealer to market and then who knows where.

You don't have to reach for the gun every time a horse looks at you funny:p, but closing your eyes to the reality that 'nice' horses can and do end up neglected or abused and washing your hands of the horse is not the right thing to do either. I swear, some people think that the only horses that end up abused are the stereotypical cob types and scraggy ponies... well I can tell you from my own experience that this is not so.
 
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Exactly. It annoys me when people shout about getting a horse PTS when they don't know it. I have no stable free at my yard, but if he has no medical history then the new owner could insure him and then have him investigated after a couple of months if he isn't sound. Might be a simple thing to put right, who knows? However, I wouldn't buy a horse like that, though I have been gifted horses before and sorted them out.
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The insurance would not cover any preexhisting condition whether it is in the medical history or not and to try and do so would be fraud.
I suspect if it was a simple thing to put right as the horse is if memory serves me correct 15 it would have been put right , especially as he started his life of as a proffesionals horse.
 
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I suspect if it was a simple thing to put right as the horse is if memory serves me correct 15 it would have been put right , especially as he started his life of as a proffesionals horse.
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Exactly. At age 15 going from pillar to post he's not likely to find a suitable home.
 
Who's to say it isn't a changed horse? Might well be! A different home/owner/environment/routine can make a big difference. I sold a horse who could be difficult to handle sometimes but perfectly bearable, he just needed to be handled carefully. He explained in depth how bad he could be (in fact went overkill on it as I wanted him to be happy!) and a girl still took him. He was there less than a week when she returned him to me (I said she could at anytime if they didnt gel). Apparently my horse had totally walked all over her (literally), he'd flattened her several times, snapped his headcollar numerous times, even started to bite her hard - none of these things he'd EVER done with me! I took him back and a 14yo girl ended up buying him who is still very happy with him, they just got on! What I'm saying is, some horses behave very differently with different people.
 
He might well be a changed horse, lets hope so for his sake and that he gets a good home. I do agree that in these videos he isn't totally sound behind but that was a while ago so hopefully been looked at
 
I have to agree with the posters who have said OP should have taken more care about what happened to the horse, if you truly think the horse was this bad you shouldnt have given it away.

I dont think pts straight away if the horse was as bad as described how did you get in school to take videos we have a couple of pointers one retired who without the right handling is INSANE but when allowed to wander on the yard once you are there stops all the weaving he would however if you got in his way probably run you over when letting him out just how he is like an overgrown dog once out.

If you leave him in will weave beyond belief if you take horses out in front of him will try and break door but with care on his living conditions is a pretty good ride does all local rideouts and hunts now as too old to race and is in his twenties.

In the wrong home he would be a liabilty and very dangerous he would never be given away or anything like that as we are very aware of what could happen to him.

It is also obvious this horse didnt look sound so why sell to people who didnt notice this says alot about their experience and alot about seller.

I buy horse to bring on and sell sometimes i never lie about them would never sell a problem or lame horse, my dad races he keeps all the retired ones at great cost to himself and he would never pass on a problem there is alot of talk about private homes and sales being better i would have to say i have found private homes are often more than willing to pass on a problem and often dont have the knowledge to even spot issues.

I dont know anything about the OP or how well known or popular she is on this site but i was expecting more comments about the situation of this horse.
 
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