having a horse on trial but owner wants deposit also

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right to fill you in a little,we think we may have found a safe hack for oh,didnt know the full story until viewing so some things not ideal. His owner got him from a gipsy sale at around 2 hes now 5,although they arnt sure of exact age,hes a irish cob type and vvvv stocky,hes vvv obese also! He has a pollen allergy and although not a problem for me as have exp of owning ones with it he is a head shaker and it will affect value of him. When we saw him he was v sweet and in nd of a tidy and clean,apart from a hack in a blue moon he really has done nothing. The owner rode him first round the field on a vvvv loose rein and managed a trot with a lot of effort,when i got on he was a little nappy to the fence where his friend was but when told to walk away he listened and gave in,got into a trot for a few strides but vvv lazy and i am used to flighty tb! Think it would be ideal for a novice hack as a bum follower! He does however nd a lot of work as totally unschooled and nds to loose weight etc. We were happy to have him on trial as o stated in ad that would be poss,we said she could cum see yard and left it there,next day get a msg saying happy to let him go for trial without check as said can visit when hes with us,she said along with aggreement she wants a deposit,is that normal? Hes on for 1k. Think o paid pennies for him at sale. Any thoughts/opinions???
 
Have never heard of leaving a deposit tbh,but then fewer people are willing to trial horses these days unless at own yard under their supervision!Tbh i would be a little weary of his age and problems,i know you say you have experience with allergy/headshaking
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,my concern would be how overweight he is and what his true temperament is like when he is in ideal condition and fit especially as he is still a baby really??
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I had my horse on trial with a view to purchase and paid a 50% deposit. We had an Agreement drawn up and agreed terms. I thought it reasonable as potentially I could have run away with the horse. The owner delivered her to me so saw where she was to live and it went from there.

Good luck!
 
she has no facilities at all,hes just in a field,have said she is most welcome to come to our yard and have offered her to see my references which are great incl ones from the vets i work at. the yard we have is one of the best you can get so abs nothing to hide. Am concerned about his weight and he is barefoot and in nd of shoeing and a general overhall. He seems v good to handle and has done a lot of inhand work but not much ridden,he just needs guidance and a bit of a attention really,he seems so bored at the mo.
 
When I was going to have the TB on trial I agreed to pay half when I took her

However do be careful with head shakers this time of year!! MAny people sell them now and in the winter because they are not so bad. I am not a total novice (been riding 10 years) but a head shaker would un nerve me. Also as someone else said being over weight is as bad as underweight as can change once fit.

The other thing with one that you have to kick too much is that it really does affect your balance, even for a reasonable rider

Its a fine line I know

Wish you luck what ever you decide
 
I wouldn't be wanting him tbh, but if you want to move him to your yard then I think the owner is quite correct in wanting a deposit - non refundable at that.

They don't know what you are going to do with the horse or how you are going to look after him. It sounds as if you are almost rescuing him, but think about it from their point of view. You might have him for a week, over work him for his level of fitness in order to make up your mind, cause an injury and then give him back and walk away.

As I say, I wouldn't be interested in something like that at £1K, but I don't think they're out of order wanting a deposit for you to take him.
 
yep dont mind paying a deposit but wanted to make sure thats the standard way to go,we will have to go get him so hoping she will visit at some point,just found it odd she was willing to let him go without seeing yard,i would vvv different if one of mine was for sale which will never happen but maybe shes laid back unlike me!!! Not sure what hes worth really as dont know real age,breed etc,just going on what we've seen so far. Will be trialing properly when hes with me,i will ride him out in company and alone before oh goes near him,at the end of the day all we want is a happy hack thats safe and a live out so not exp a world beater. Will go sort trial now,thanks for all your help.
 
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right to fill you in a little,we think we may have found a safe hack for oh,didnt know the full story until viewing so some things not ideal. His owner got him from a gipsy sale at around 2 hes now 5,although they arnt sure of exact age,hes a irish cob type and vvvv stocky,hes vvv obese also! He has a pollen allergy and although not a problem for me as have exp of owning ones with it he is a head shaker and it will affect value of him. When we saw him he was v sweet and in nd of a tidy and clean,apart from a hack in a blue moon he really has done nothing. The owner rode him first round the field on a vvvv loose rein and managed a trot with a lot of effort,when i got on he was a little nappy to the fence where his friend was but when told to walk away he listened and gave in,got into a trot for a few strides but vvv lazy and i am used to flighty tb! Think it would be ideal for a novice hack as a bum follower! He does however nd a lot of work as totally unschooled and nds to loose weight etc. We were happy to have him on trial as o stated in ad that would be poss,we said she could cum see yard and left it there,next day get a msg saying happy to let him go for trial without check as said can visit when hes with us,she said along with aggreement she wants a deposit,is that normal? Hes on for 1k. Think o paid pennies for him at sale. Any thoughts/opinions???

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Do not pay a Deposit but Insure him at "Sale Price" for a week's trial. Then if anything does go pear-shaped (as it sometimes does with horses), the Owner will get the Sale Value from the Insurers. Prepare something in writing to back up what is happening - ie: horse on 1 week's trial, insured by potential Purchaser and agreed by the Vendor - signed and dated by yourself and the Vendor - and also signed by an Independant Witness on both sides. Photocopy, so that each side has one - plus a spare copy. If in doubt, leave it - another one will come along.
 
i have a mad tb x whos a headshaker and v sharp so not worried about my balance as shes like riding a wet ladder! she also hasnt tried anything to help him,nose net,supplements etc and i have access to all sorts of things that could help. He is getting better to ride than in summer she said which makes sense for the prob he has,i can really only ride my mare vvv early am or vvv late pm in summer so he would come out with me then,have learnt to manage this frustrating problem so we could offer him a good home,she said shes had no interest,well she does til she mentions the head shaking and then they run a mile! which is understandable,have taken on all views and will let you know how it goes.
 
very normal to leave a deposit, usually 50% plus.

insuring will only cover the vendor if you injure the horse, not if you send it back as a nutter!
 
Whenever I have let a horse go on trial the person has to get it vetted first and pay the full amount for it before it leaves the yard.

The seller doesn't know you, you may be a total fraud and run off with the horse. Look at it from the other side would you let your horse or a car or anything you own of high value be taken away by a complete stranger?
 
I don't really understand why you would want to buy a horse with known health problems, like a pollen allergy and being a head shaker.

My horse has developed breathing problems this year and it has cost me a lot of money and it's still nor sorted, I certainly would not buy a horse knowing it had these problems.
 
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Whenever I have let a horse go on trial the person has to get it vetted first and pay the full amount for it before it leaves the yard.

The seller doesn't know you, you may be a total fraud and run off with the horse. Look at it from the other side would you let your horse or a car or anything you own of high value be taken away by a complete stranger?

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I am inclined to agree with DD. You have to turn it around and imagine it was your horse going off on trial to a virtual stranger.

I am actually surprised his owner does not want to check your yard before letting him leave - just to double check you are genuine. Sorry! No offence to you of course!
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I would fully expect to pay a high deposit, returnable should the horse be returned. You are lucky to get a trial these days, and if I were the owner, I wouldn't want to risk losing my horse.
 
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