having the worst day known to man!

We never used to insem if there was more than 1 plus of odema. All mares are different and some may ovulate off a 35 with no odema and others may go up to 50 and still have 3 plusses. You want to aim for a big follicle with little odema :D
Personally wouldn't have caslicked if her bum is only a little bit sunken. I've seen mares with terrible reproductive confo come through where i used to work and have all been fine!
 
I was a one mare owner, I bred a foal from her for me to keep. He is everything I wanted, absolutely gorgeous, I love him to bits and it was a comfort to have him around when I had to have my mare (of a lifetime) put down last year.

Go Delicious_D and all the other one mare owner breeders out there.
 
She hasnt been caslisked yet...im really unsure, i want to give her the best chance but seems invasive?

SF shes a great mum but really is a little annoying when it comes to that! I asked her yesterday how it went....she told me she cuddled dee.... :)
 
Ive called the and left a message to find out follical size etc but the vet is out on an emergency :S. She said the egg looked fuzzy (mum not vet) and looked about to ovulate.... (pinch of salt anyone)
 
Delicious_D said:
She hasnt been caslisked yet...im really unsure, i want to give her the best chance but seems invasive?
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It's pretty common in racehorses. None of my own mares have caslicks. One of my clients mares used to get caslicked, it's a nuisance imo if not entirely necessary. Not really invasive but they do slit the vulva on each side, sew it back together to let the skin knit together so that nothing can get in. Once all is settled it stays in until a month or so prior to foaling date.

SF shes a great mum but really is a little annoying when it comes to that! I asked her yesterday how it went....she told me she cuddled dee.... :)
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She sounds like my mum lol!
 
Love my mum, couldnt have done this wihtout her as all the running around etc has taken a lot of my spare time :)

Especially when WE had to go and collect the semen from the PO :mad:

Im tempted NOT to caslisks her...
 
Toast said:
Eta - one thing that concerns me about caslicks, is, (dont panic this is just me playing devils advocate!!!)
If a mare decides to abort at 200 odd days or more and is caslicked, that foal is going to cause a damn lot of damage getting out :(
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That's why my client doesn't have the mare I mention above anymore. Mare aborted months before due date, foal got stuck, caslicks did not separate, mare died.
 
This was my concern too :( i need to speak with the vet (direct not through mum) and find out more as to why they think shes needs it...
 
Toast said:
Exactly my worry with caslicks. I wouldn't ever do it unless absolutely necessary!
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It's a personal thing I guess but I know my client wouldn't have another mare who had to have a caslick and I won't accept any mares on to my farm to breed and foal down who do require caslicks any more. It was traumatic, not only for the mare no doubt, dying in the middle of the night, but also for her herdmates and for us humans. I don't need that kind of extra worry I'm afraid. However plenty of places don't mind having mares with caslicks, and as said the vast majority of racehorse mares have it done.
 
hahaha!!! Poor dee! the earliest i can see her to friday (working till 8pm). Will try and get a picture :). Thing is, we have never had an issue with her being dirty...so dont see the need tbh

(i hope i dont get told off :) )

ETA: at £100 seems an expensive thing to have that might not be required
 
Delicious_D said:
hahaha!!! Poor dee! the earliest i can see her to friday (working till 8pm). Will try and get a picture :). Thing is, we have never had an issue with her being dirty...so dont see the need tbh

(i hope i dont get told off :) )

ETA: at £100 seems an expensive thing to have that might not be required
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Is she 'slurpy' at all? PF used to 'slurp' when jumping (not all of the time) and vet recommended. I wouldn't bother if she's not audibly drawing air in.
 
Toast said:
Is PF up the duff again?! :D

ETA - you said it was for slurping purposes, not baby :(
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LOL, no. The concern was that the slurping would draw muck into her foofie (I say foofie in case HHO disapproves of the V word ;) ) which could create fertility problems. She's stayed caslicked because I would quite like to breed from her again one day :)
 
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:D The vet isnt to go ahead without calling me, ive just briefly spoken w/ the vets receptionist :)
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Okay, if it's any help, and it probably isn't, but as you're having another dilemma here I'll say what I'd do if Delicia was mine. I think it highly doubtful that D will be pregnant in 16 days (sorry! And I really am sorry :o ) therefore she's going to need to be rebred and will be having many more scans in order to do so, therefore regardless of what you choose to do once she is finally confirmed in foal, for the time being I would leave her without a caslick. (If she were mine I wouldn't be having her caslicked at any time, but that's me) To me it is pointless to have her cut, stitched up, only to be cut open, scanned, scanned a few more times and then be cut and stitched up again. Her little foofoo will be a right mess by the time she gets scanned in foal proper. Just my opinion and you're more than welcome to dismiss it :)
 
Stop being the voice of reason :( ;)

ETA: I dont want her foofoo messed up :( I did question mum when they mentioned it (again, not their 1st hand) as shes never foaled before so no idea she needed it!
 
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ETA, and this may throw a spanner in the works too, but I'll say it anyhow. None of the 3 repro vets I use (all from different vet practices btw) will perform a caslick on a mare who is not *confirmed* in foal. None of them caslick after insemination. If they do perform a caslick on a mare it is always after the 45 day scan as then you can kind of relax that foal is doing well and it means that the mare only has the stitches cut once rather than with Dee she's going to have to be cut open and restitched every time she goes for a scan. Now this may not be usual procedure in the UK (or with other repro vets) so perhaps that's why your vets are planning to caslick her now?
 
Tbh i havent got this type of breeding experience before so it might be a UK thing? Hope someone who breeds in the ulk might come and shed some light. You way f thinking is the same as mine, i dont want anything unnecessary
 
Delicious_D said:
Stop being the voice of reason :( ;)
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Sorry :( It gets me down always seeming to be the voice of doom to you too :( I really do hope D is pregnant, all breeders want the best for fellow breeders, but there have been some glaring errors made and although I'm only going by what you are relaying (or mummy anyway) I don't have any faith whatsoever in your vets. Sorry.

Anyhoo, on a slightly brighter note (and perhaps take it as a cautionary tale) I have to go out and check on my beloved Spring and poke her baby to make sure it is still alive. Unfortunately Spring went into false labour last night at 289 days. Sweating, moaning, pushing, groaning ... and I was very worried about her. This was not normal repositioning of the foal. The foal must have tapped her and tricked her body into thinking she was in full labour. Had she had a caslick in I'd have been even more concerned. Anyway once the foal moved out of wherever it was, everything stopped and after an hour Springy was eating again. The foal did move afterwards and I checked her visually throughout the night but I haven't checked to see movement this afternoon yet, so I'll pop outside now and check. If it's not one thing, it's another with this breeding malarky!
 
Spring Feather said:
Sorry :( It gets me down always seeming to be the voice of doom to you too :( I really do hope D is pregnant, all breeders want the best for fellow breeders, but there have been some glaring errors made and although I'm only going by what you are relaying (or mummy anyway) I don't have any faith whatsoever in your vets. Sorry.

Anyhoo, on a slightly brighter note (and perhaps take it as a cautionary tale) I have to go out and check on my beloved Spring and poke her baby to make sure it is still alive. Unfortunately Spring went into false labour last night at 289 days. Sweating, moaning, pushing, groaning ... and I was very worried about her. This was not normal repositioning of the foal. The foal must have tapped her and tricked her body into thinking she was in full labour. Had she had a caslick in I'd have been even more concerned. Anyway once the foal moved out of wherever it was, everything stopped and after an hour Springy was eating again. The foal did move afterwards and I checked her visually throughout the night but I haven't checked to see movement this afternoon yet, so I'll pop outside now and check. If it's not one thing, it's another with this breeding malarky!
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Actually, i feel very lucky to be being guided by you. :) thank you :)

How worrying for you :( Have you told her its far to early? I can completely see what you mean re: caslicks. :S (((sending lots of vibes))). Hope eveyrthing is ok x
 
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