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Zipzop

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Hi all,

I have an internal dilemma going on at the moment.

My horse is a Sec D ive owned for 10 years or so. He's 13 years old and needs your usual fatty management. He lives in his stable at night and out through the day, (all year round, yard policy). During the day, he is currently in restricted grazing paddock alone but has spent the winter (days only) on an open field of two - three acres with a friend. All seems well although he is a little less happy (not stressy but a bit less jolly) with being grazed alone, but his friend is only over the fence they still get to groom.

My issue is over the last few years, after having an awful allergic reaction to a treated straw chop bedding, he has seemed to develop very slight respiratory issues which flare up from time to time.

The last episode was a few months ago when he had to go on a course of ventipulmin. During this period, the YO let him be loose on the enclosed yard at night with his stable door open, which helped a lot and was also good for my piece of mind so he was not in a 'dusty' stable. (Bedded on Aubiose) However after a fence post got broken and a couple of other mishaps this has been stopped and he is back in his stable again. Aside from this, i dont agree with stables anyway despite any medical problems horses may have as i believe horses should be able to move around as freely as possible and not be locked up in tiny little 'prison cells'.

My dilemma is this.

My gut is telling me I need to look for alternative arrangements which allow him to be out of his stable as much as possible but will allow for restricted grazing as and when needed. I know its unlikely I will get this flexibility on any 'livery' yard and I will likely have to find a place for sole use but we all know this is like looking for a needle in a haystack and id be very lucky to find something like this in my area.

The problem is for anyone looking for livery, my yard is absolutely the best you can find. It is a private yard with just the YO's horse on site and mine. I have flexible field management meaning I can restrict as I need to, they treat him like their own horse and bring him in and out and I just go down whatever time of day suits, the other horse isn't ridden so I have sole use of the menage, good hacking literally on the doorstep. And the YO and I have become friends and we cover for each others holidays or days out, I can text on a whim if ive had an awful day and they will finish him off for me for no extra charge. It really is a DREAM.

But I cant shake this gut feeling that he should be out and about more, not on the grass but perhaps out on a yard situation for part of the day and grazing the other part during summer and out full time in winter. I feel that I am ignoring my gut feeling at my peril and that something will happen again, perhaps more serious, regarding his breathing and when it does, I will kick myself for ignoring my gut feeling and over looking this simply because I chose not to move from the comfort zone of the yard im at now.

Does anyone get what I mean, I know this is quite deep but ive been feeling this way for a little while and i really am having an internal struggle with what to do. :(

Opinions please and cream cakes to those who got to the end - phew!
 
Research COPD and you will soon be looking for more suitable facilities.

It may be a dream yard for you but it is not for your horse who needs to be out as much as possible and have company, I have a small yard that is flexible with turnout, they are all out 24/7 until the ground gets too wet, usually end of Nov/ early Dec when they come in at night although I usually manage to keep a few out 24/7 all winter and they go out as soon as possible in the spring, this year they were later than normal but they were out in mid April, they all go out in pairs or more and have restricted grazing as required for their weight.

It may take some looking but there will be somewhere that can fit in with his needs as well as yours.
 
My first port of call would be to discuss your feelings honestly with the current yard owner, you may be able to work something out. Failing that I would be moving.
You should ALWAYS follow your gut and you know your boy best :)
 
Why do they need him to come in ? does the other one need company ? . could you arrange a companion between You ? , seems a shame to move x
 
Why do they need him to come in ? does the other one need company ? . could you arrange a companion between You ? , seems a shame to move x

Thanks for all who commented - much appreciated.
In answer to your questions;
The YO wants the horses in every night to maintain routine. Her horse can be stressy and she feels more easily handled if kept to the same solid routine. So that's out at about 7am and in at 5pm all year round - unless it's terrible weather then they go out for couple of hours and back in, but they do go out every day.
Her horse won't be stabled alone and will scream its head off until we are all deaf! As it's just the two of us that means mine is in too.
There were three on the yard incl mine previously, but rules are all stick to the same schedule so having an extra one wouldn't help I'm afraid.
Yes it is an awful shame to have to move :(
 
I think I'd be looking to move. Your horse needs a different management plan from the one he's living with at the moment and it seems your YO has you around to keep hers settled, which isn't working for you. If you moved she could easily get an easy going companion for her horse.

If it's any consolation, I've just moved my lad from a full livery yard with a rigid "in every night" regime, to a smaller, private yard with much more flexible arrangements. His new stable opens onto an open yard area and thus far I haven't closed his stable door yet (been there just over a week) so he wanders in and out at will, goes out every day and spends his nights in his yard/stable which is great for his weight management being a native type with weight control issues. Just telling you this to encourage you to move and reassure you that there are places out there which would better suit your needs if you look round. Good luck whatever you decide.
 
I completely understand. I have a fat COPD Welsh D as well, and I've recently moved from a place that was much easier for me, to a place that's much better for her but a ton of work for me. Right now, my pony is out 24/7 and has a grazing muzzle on for a few hours at a time to make sure she doesn't implode from the grass intake. I moved her 2 days ago and haven't heard her cough or weeze since. It's worth it.
 
I think speak with YO first and explain that its just not working for the pony and that without some change you will be forced to look elsewhere. If its doable and you have created this friendship then you would think there could be a compromise.
Bloody hate clingy horses, they ruin it for people with sane horses!
 
Many thanks to all of you who have taken the time to reply.
You guys have made me see that I need a change of management for my boy regardless of how well the yard works for me as in the end his health is suffering albeit only on a very small level at the moment.
I understand that he could go his whole life living this way and his breathing issues could stay as they are and I may never get big problems. However, I know in doing this, I am seriously risking them potentially getting worse and it would be because I didn't take action when I knew I should, I know, ultimately - no lungs = no horse.
So I had a great conversation with my YO to discuss my concerns and we talked over a solution which may work. So fingers crossed I can resolve it and stay at my lovely little yard.
Thanks for giving me the push to get my head out of the sand.
 
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