luckyoldme
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and i would rather shoot myself than spend any more of my life reading your crap. you horrible woman.
Healthy Horses doing nothing??
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and i would rather shoot myself than spend any more of my life reading your crap. you horrible woman.
mcnaughty
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Actually no - you are the one looking dumb - "showing etc is playing just like taking a dog to a show" - I would expect the likes of Richard Ramsey would hardly call producing a top show horse for the ring "playing at it". Feel you need to look up "working a horse" and find out the true modern meaning - ploughing a field is hardly up to date - welcome to the 21st Century...
AngieandBen
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I hope he makes lots of money doing it
AngieandBen
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You need to look at other counties rather than the rich western world where horse are very much "working"
baymareb
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I sincerely hope you're a troll because if you're not, you're the most unpleasant and miserable person I've ever encountered on a message board. To put that much vitriol into something that doesn't concern you in the least - how other people deal with their horses - is very disturbing.
AngieandBen
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Actually I've just looked up Richard Ramsey........He does livery..............
"Also available is summer livery in the fields living out, for any horses who are having a 'year off.'
pmsl stroppy and mcnaughty, you'd better go and shoot them!!
"Also available is summer livery in the fields living out, for any horses who are having a 'year off.'
pmsl stroppy and mcnaughty, you'd better go and shoot them!!
UnaB
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I have two perfectly healthy horses that I rarely ride. I dont really think its anyones elses business. They are fed and handled daily and well looked after.
I dont see what the problem is.. They dont "need" to be ridden regularly and they are very happy just being horses
ETA: And its not because my horses are "horrible, *****, cobby, ugly, boring, talentless horses", one of them was a top eventing and showjumping pony not all that long ago!
I dont see what the problem is.. They dont "need" to be ridden regularly and they are very happy just being horses
ETA: And its not because my horses are "horrible, *****, cobby, ugly, boring, talentless horses", one of them was a top eventing and showjumping pony not all that long ago!
fburton
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I would like to know why you asked a genuine question if you couldn't care less what people think. What were you hoping to get out of it?
Possible clue here?
Sounds like you have "issues".
fburton
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Missed that one. May I asked why you posted? What did you hope to get out of it?
Fair enough. However, bear in mind that just because you can't see the point, doesn't mean there isn't a perfectly valid point for other people.
Presumably the Welsh A's that are not driven or ridden serve no useful purpose? Or are you saying that breeding merely to show and/or sell is a useful purpose? Why on earth would anyone want to do that?
amandap
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Took some of the words out of my mouth fburton! I decided it was a waste of finger typing though! 
FanyDuChamp
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I agree but it is each to their own. Neither of mine are in hard or really even light work at present, mainly because of the weather. But tbh they are not overworked in summer. Some people just enjoy being with them. I often say you rarely see a horse at the tack room door demanding to be ridden!
Mine are healthy and happy, what more could a horse and its owner wish for?
FDC
skychick
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Mine is in light work at the mo, as in about 3 or 4 times a week due to weather so no hacking and i dont want to over work her in the school as although useable is slightly harder than im comfortable with to use every day as my mare has had 2 tendon issues.
But normally she is worked 5 or 6 days a week.
However...whilst some people say they enjoy "spending time" with their horse (i love spending time with mine) i think alot of the lack of riding is down to confidence issues.
I have always had "interesting" horses. My first pony was an arab and had to be ridden every day otherwise he would explode! when i first had him there were moments when my confidence wained a bit and so i used to say that i wasnt riding because i wanted to "pull his mane, bath him" etc etc. Once i sorted myself out and got him in regular work etc we had a great time and he was the best horse ever.
With my last horse..he was a nappy sod who would rear, buck, leap, plunge, etc etc. Sometimes i really had to push my self to ride. Things were a constant challenge.
So i think that sometimes people dont ride as much as others as due to confidence, if things dont look like a perfect day for riding, i.e its too windy, the hunt is out, there is going to be lots of spooky things on their hack, then they choose to "spend time" with them rather than pushing them selves to ride out of their comfort zone.
My mare now is a dream, she is a TB so is sharp but has no malice in her and so i would ride her anywhere and she allows me to get on with things and not worry if there is cows next to the arena (caused my previous horse to go dolally and nearly unrideable) or other horses charging around or its a force 10 gale.
As long as horse and owner are happy, what ever works for you IMO
But normally she is worked 5 or 6 days a week.
However...whilst some people say they enjoy "spending time" with their horse (i love spending time with mine) i think alot of the lack of riding is down to confidence issues.
I have always had "interesting" horses. My first pony was an arab and had to be ridden every day otherwise he would explode! when i first had him there were moments when my confidence wained a bit and so i used to say that i wasnt riding because i wanted to "pull his mane, bath him" etc etc. Once i sorted myself out and got him in regular work etc we had a great time and he was the best horse ever.
With my last horse..he was a nappy sod who would rear, buck, leap, plunge, etc etc. Sometimes i really had to push my self to ride. Things were a constant challenge.
So i think that sometimes people dont ride as much as others as due to confidence, if things dont look like a perfect day for riding, i.e its too windy, the hunt is out, there is going to be lots of spooky things on their hack, then they choose to "spend time" with them rather than pushing them selves to ride out of their comfort zone.
My mare now is a dream, she is a TB so is sharp but has no malice in her and so i would ride her anywhere and she allows me to get on with things and not worry if there is cows next to the arena (caused my previous horse to go dolally and nearly unrideable) or other horses charging around or its a force 10 gale.
As long as horse and owner are happy, what ever works for you IMO
PapaFrita
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Oh well, if you say it's true then it must be. This forum is full of ***** and so, I believe, are you.
I expect your horses would rather BE shot that be owned by someone like you so it all works out nicely, eh?
Tormenta
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Fair enough you have your opinion. However, I think most of us learned to ride on hairy, cobby so called 'talentless' horses. I know no-one who got where they are today in whatever sphere they choose by learning on a 17hh warmblood. Those ugly useless animals serve a huge purpose in childrens lives and their learning, my daughter learned how to stick her backside on a saddle by riding a hairy cob. What would you suggest people do with their retired horses who may live for another ten years doing nothing? Even after those horses have spent maybe twenty plus years doing a job? What do you suggest the WHW and other charities do with their unrideables? Should a rescue horse be shot because the abuse suffered has rendered it unrideable at the hands of people?
I was once told that there are those that 'love' horses and there are those that 'ride' horses, the latter being people who see horses a commodity and have little understanding or empathy for them as sentient beings. I guess that would be you?
fburton
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That may be true, but I'm still not sure why you posted in the first place! Was it simply to get people arguing against you? If so, you have clearly succeeded.
Or did you post in order to get some kind of affirmation for your point of view? It's a common enough point of view, though not the only one as you can see. However, if you were genuinely interested in finding out why other people keep horses - reasons that might differ from your own - then you wouldn't have written the above.Or are you trying to change people's minds? If you are, you need to come up with some arguments why not riding a horse or using it in one of the recognized activities is positively harmful despite all its other needs being met. If you're not, then there really isn't any point in you posting further on the topic, is there?
Why did you post in the first place??
What is the purpose of showing? I think you implied that was a valid reason to keep horses.
stroppy
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I don't now nor have I ever 'shown' my horses, but it does mean that they at least have a job to do, be it ridden, driven or in hand.
and Fburton i post because i can, and I am free to say what I want when I want just like everyother living soul on the planet should be able to
and Fburton i post because i can, and I am free to say what I want when I want just like everyother living soul on the planet should be able to
Not read all the posts but enough to realise TROLL. Only just joined TROLL
fburton
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Good, now we're getting somewhere. So any job will do, as long as the horse is doing something other than what it would normally do if left to its own devices?
Yes, of course - that's how it should be - but I'm still interested to know what was your thinking/motivation behind the first post in this thread.
paddi22
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People don't give horses a 'purpose' - the only purpose they have had is to evolve over 40 or 50 million years by breeding, grazing and roaming. While I admire your god-life belief in yourself and your ability to give your horse a purpose, I think horses were doing ok before people gave them a job to do.
You sound really young so I would advise you to spend less times on forums and more time in school so you can gain a greater understanding of how the world works. I would also love to see you revisit this forum in a few years when you have had more experience in life, and had to deal with a loved horse becoming unfit for purpose. Maybe then you won't be as quick to suggest shooting it. Unless I have you wrong and you are in your forties sitting in a room decorated with the mounted heads of all your old horses!
stroppy
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A general observtion of the people around me and the desire to know if this was the case across the country or just in this area.
Spudlet
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^^This!
Do grow up, OP... gain some life experience and then maybe you won't be so quick to judge others.
fburton
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TBH, I'd be very surprised if there were marked regional differences in people's attitudes to horse use. You're going to find a mix of views wherever you look.
I am curious, though, why some people like yourself can't appreciate, or even positively disdain, other people getting pleasure from keeping horses without necessarily riding them - enough pleasure, in fact, to justify the expense.
paddi22
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Thats a good point, it has always surprised me how some people believe you aren't 'using' your horse enough unless you compete in some way.
Spudlet
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For which I am eternally grateful.
fburton
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There's a range of attitudes and degrees of hand-wringing. For some, competition is a horse's raison d'etre; for others, competition isn't necessary but a horse is still "wasted" if not ridden; for yet others, the only important thing is the horse is well and happy, and that doesn't necessitate riding. I don't think anyone is arguing that horses can't benefit from structured activities in terms of physical fitness and mental stimulation. What may be at issue, however, is whether it is necessary bad for horses (or for their owners) not to participate in at least one recognized equestrian discipline.
lannerch
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From what I can see stroppy is posting to cause and argument.
I suspect although aparently new to the forum her name is very aptly chosen particualrly at the moment where it is quite likely that her part of the world is covered by snow and even her two lucky compitition horses likely cannot be ridden at the moment so she is a trifle bord, and in which case I commend her for providing the entertainment.
My own opninion is maybe not members of h@h as to join here or even find here most people are fanatical about horses so quite likely to enjoy riding as well however in the real world the majority of horses are not ridden more than very occasionally, certainly the case at my yard and the neighbouring yard.
I was entertained today by two of the liverys complaining they could not ride, I chimed in I've ridden two today, the arena is fine, go and see, neither bothered as realistically snow or no snow they would not be riding and the snow gives an excuse to grumble.
That said all the horses on my yard are happy, all well cared and if people enjoy just looking after them what is wrong with that?
I suspect although aparently new to the forum her name is very aptly chosen particualrly at the moment where it is quite likely that her part of the world is covered by snow and even her two lucky compitition horses likely cannot be ridden at the moment so she is a trifle bord, and in which case I commend her for providing the entertainment.
My own opninion is maybe not members of h@h as to join here or even find here most people are fanatical about horses so quite likely to enjoy riding as well however in the real world the majority of horses are not ridden more than very occasionally, certainly the case at my yard and the neighbouring yard.
I was entertained today by two of the liverys complaining they could not ride, I chimed in I've ridden two today, the arena is fine, go and see, neither bothered as realistically snow or no snow they would not be riding and the snow gives an excuse to grumble.
That said all the horses on my yard are happy, all well cared and if people enjoy just looking after them what is wrong with that?
Ladyinred
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Go away Stroppy, there's a good girl. You are immature, childish and rude. No doubt everything is paid for by Daddy and you whine until you get what you want.
I can see the burberry and big hoop earrings from here....
Holly Hocks
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I've read this post backwards as I usually do when there are a lot of replies,but only got back a few pages. OP must think that my youngest should be shot - she's been off work since around May/June and won't be potentially starting any work til March - could be longer if illness and injury (yes she's had two!) don't heal as quickly as they might. My other one is a veteran who is ridden now and again, but in reality, doesn't have a "job" as the OP appears to think he should have.
I adore looking after my horses. I get up at 5.45am and I tend to everything they need. I have enjoyed seeing the mare get well, putting on weight and getting happier, and I enjoy maintaining my old boy, making sure he keeps his weight on over winter, and they keep me sane. They give me a purpose.
It sounds like OP needs to get a full-time job, a family and then comment on how often she is able to ride her "competition" horses.
I adore looking after my horses. I get up at 5.45am and I tend to everything they need. I have enjoyed seeing the mare get well, putting on weight and getting happier, and I enjoy maintaining my old boy, making sure he keeps his weight on over winter, and they keep me sane. They give me a purpose.
It sounds like OP needs to get a full-time job, a family and then comment on how often she is able to ride her "competition" horses.
FanyDuChamp
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You know what I think that you no longer have a purpose or point . Perhaps we could shoot you?
FDC
CinnamonChristmasCookie
Fais pas chier!
Frankly, I'd rather shoot you than let you near my 'talentless, cobby (apart from winning first prize in one of the south east's biggest show centres) horse'. He doesn't care if he's ridden or not, but when he is, he can do whatever he's asked.
You are rude, a child and quite possibly a troll with zero idea of etiquette. You poor thing. You must be lacking in something essential in your life to be this unpleasant.
Your poor horses.