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Would you buy a big horse with a heart murmour.....and if so would you knock down the seller on price and how much by?? Vet seems to think that it's ok but he can't 100% guarantee it. Horse only 5 and is nearly 17hh. HELP!!
 
You can get heart scans done - both RVC and the AHT will do them, and I know the AHT has a mobile unit, not sure whether the RVC does but they can't be too far from you. Why not find out how much it would cost to do that and think about having it investigated? You could even ask the owners to pay for it, see what they say.
 
The vet didn't grade it but said that it was very common and about 70% of horses his size have it.....he said it would cost about £500 to get it investigated further... maybe I should ask them to get it done? Don't think that they will tho. Really like him so tough choice
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Well look at it this way, you could offer them 50% of asking price as it is a fail and it won't go away. They could take that (and I imagine that 50% is considerabley more than £500), or they could spend £500 having it investigated and if the report is quite good ie. the vets don't think it will get much worse, then you could buy him for say 80% of original asking price. That way,. depending on how much they were asking for him, they're probably still better off than they would have been. Hope that made sense
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That did make sense thanks!! They wanted £6500 for him and I originally agreed on £6200 but obviously this is totally different ball game. Really like him tho which sucks as they know that he's won me over and I need to keep my head!!
 
My horse has a heart murmur and he is 28 years old. Never did him any harm and certainly never slowed him down. It's not a serious one though.
 
My boy has one. He was born with his and it's the type that doesnt get any worse, its just there.

His was investigated twice (due to vettings)... cant quite remember where he went but he had lots of scans done. Anyway, he passed 5 star vettings twice, both with heart scans (second time the buyer wanted to ensure it really hadnt deteriorated) and he was passed first time as an intermediate eventer and the second time with a view to do top level dressage.

I never hesitated about it at all when we bought him.. it just wasnt an issue
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My big lad has one, again common in big horses, it has been fully monitored and investigated and he passed a 5 stage vetting with view to doing PSG dressage.

Like Tierra's boy, mine was born with it.
 
Do you think I should just insist on further investigations then or just price chip and forget about the further investigations? The vet was really adamant that there was nothing wrong blah blah but this is obviously a really big purchase for me and I don't want to make the wrong decision....! This has really ruined my day!!
 
I would have it investiaged as some are progressive and although it may not affect what you want to do with him a great deal, it may knock a chunk off the price, and its piece of mind, knowing what is going on in there.
 
For me, part of it would depend upon the value of the horse.

If its a high value purchase then id be inclined to get it investigated anyway but I do think this can be quite costly. I looked back through Jack's paper work earlier and found he'd been to the Royal Veterinary College and then to Peter Schofield's clinic for his investigations. Both confirmed the murmour that is mentioned on some other paper work (from when he was a babe) and both confirm no deterioration, that its the none deteriorating type and that they didnt it would infringe on his performance.

I DIDNT have his investigated when we bought him as we knew it was there already, my own vet who saw him was perfectly happy with the previous investigations done and said it would be a waste of money for us (one had only been done 8 months prior to us buying him).

Is the vet who saw him an equine specialist? If you dont want to have a full investigation of it (and i think it can only be done at a few places), then you could get a second opinion from a specialist equine vet before proceeding with the sale.

We didnt ask for any reduction in Jack's price as he passed multiple vettings saying he was fit for the job. My vet told me to forget it was there as it was a none issue and thats exactly what I've done
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Sunny has one, it is also the sort that has never affected her and never will (she raced will it) so yes, I would buy one! She passed the vetting aswell. I also have a friend with a 17.2hh horse and it has never affected him. We didn't haggle with the price as she was cheap as chips anyway and I think it would have been rude to! However, if we were ever going to breed from her, I would want to investigate further as I have no idea if they pass on.
 
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For me, part of it would depend upon the value of the horse.

If its a high value purchase then id be inclined to get it investigated anyway but I do think this can be quite costly.

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I totally agree, my boy was quite expensive and his was thoroughly investigated and monitored.
I think with very big horses you want to know where you stand though, especially as they seem the most susceptible.

I think it depends on price and what you are wanting to do really.
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