Height of a Sec D.??

Sadly we also have one who is no more than an over-sized Sec C. She has none of the D characteristics and looks very 'pony'. I would prefer a bigger D that looks like a D than a glorified pony.

(If anyone has a pic of Heolyrhedin Virgo I should dearly love to see it. Been searching for one for 12 years with no luck and he is our boys sire)
 
Thanks Cambrica, he has qualified for RIHS, won a medal in hand as a gelding, and finished in the top 10 in the last 4 HOYS qualifiers he has entered. Although we sold him we are still interested in what he is doing. He will be at the Royal Welsh this year and I can't wait to see him.
I've also entered his son who is a real compact pocket rocket in the two year old colt class.
That's only a couple of weeks away, sad I can't make it this year but best of luck to you!

I also agree Justabob, a Welsh x would be top of my list if I were looking for a sport horse. It really comes down to personal preference when it comes to registered Sec D's and I have seen too many that are simply too 'leggy'. That said there are many 14.2's that are far removed from breed standard. Mine is in no way perfect but he's not a show cob and is proving himself as a superb jumping prospect for my daughter.
 
Thanks everyone for the info. The horse in question caught my eye on an ad as I really love Sec Ds but they are generally too short for me as I'm 5ft 11. The one in question has literally just turned 2 in May and is up for sale for £500..??
 
Thats true, also fascinating and I could spend hours going back along different lines to the 1700's where you find Thoroughbreds and Godolphin (sp?) the Arab stallion. I was also talking to a couple of chaps who work with PRE's and train in classical dressage and we were likening the similarities between them and Welsh cob's - having that spanish influence.
15.2 or 15.3 is and always has been acceptable I think but going beyond 16 hh, although without doubt, a superb animal and a potentially formidable competition horse, I can't say that it could be characterised as a 'pony'. Although as Tern has pointed out, they never lose that cheekiness :-))

I've traced my lad's breeding back to both the Darley and Godolphin Arabians - it was really quite fascinating.

I've always thought there should be a height limit, and still do - even though I've got a big lad now. My first three were all 14.2/14.3, and it was quite obvious what they were. My current boy doesn't have all of the characteristics of the breed - his head is quite long, his ears are mahoosive and his neck just isn't quite right. People who don't know what he is think he's an arab cross, or a "hunter-type". I've seen others too, in excess of 16 hands, who just don't seem to fit the breed criteria. I'd like to see a 15 hand height limit.

Must say though - in his nature and temperament, he's undoubtedly all Welsh Cob :)
 
The big stallions are good to cross with TBs to breed welsh sport horses that are versatile and have scope to be good competition horses.

Indeed if you choose your Welsh correctly - My friend has a Welsh D x TB He's only 14.2hh :L But you wouldn't think he has any TB in him - His gallop is hopeless and it's so fat no matter how much dieting he gets put on and how much work - Luckily the rider is on the larger side so he is a good weight carrier. :)
 
Maesmynach Stud breed some big performance bred cobs, often over 16 hands, some of the stallion lines were of this size.
 
was asked if my boy was an oversized Welsh Cob today.
he's of completely unknown breeding, but imo he's always looked very Welsh. the person who asked was obviously very knowledgeable in the breed too.

there was a mare who was apparently a purebred Welsh D at my old yard. She was at least 16hh and really didn't look Welsh at all (although she did have a few conformation faults which probably didn't help), yet she moved like one. I don't think I'll ever forget that bouncy trot.

I'd love to one day own a Welsh D who is registered and is definitely Welsh. They're such fantastic horses, so very versatile and they're always a character you'll never forget.
 
Maesmynach Stud breed some big performance bred cobs, often over 16 hands, some of the stallion lines were of this size.

Yes. The D I had was by Maesmynach Majestic out of one their mares as well, so he was the type for them. Just about 16hh and a very handsome lad.
 
comet does appear to have been a hackney..

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cardigan+comet+iii

I don't think it matters too much, to me it does seem to be a bit odd having them over 15.2 but that's mostly because I think a giant welshie has to be a liability! :p Mine is very much of stocky pony type. He doesn't have heights down for his pedigree but Dad definitely wasn't big
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