Help for a horse in need! Please...

Samantha008 said:
Please read the thread...

He will be sent to a charity or loaned before he is "fobbed off" to just anyone.

Ohhh i love this forum sometimes :rolleyes:
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Well I was going to keep quiet but this is one of the things that really gets on my wick, she can't be bothered to keep paying for him so she will send him to a charity and expect him to be paid for out of other people's donations, taking resources away from animals that are truly in need, just because she wants a newer model.

Terrific
 
devilwoman said:
Seems like he has given her many happy times, shame she can't do the same for him now he's not quite up to the job she wants him to do, still each to their own, can only hope he gets a decent home that will give him a lifelong home.

P.S. the charities are full to busting point of abused/neglected horses, they really are not there for the likes of your friend who cast off unwanted/sick horses.
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^^^This:(

How sad, I suppose she is too cowardly to PTS :mad:
 
In fairness guys this lad has years ahead of him as a hacker or even low level competition. Surely he deserves the chance of a quieter life?

I understand why you think what you think but maybe the owner is just trying to give her horse a chance to live a calmer, more suitable life?
 
ABC said:
In fairness guys this lad has years ahead of him as a hacker or even low level competition. Surely he deserves the chance of a quieter life?

I understand why you think what you think but maybe the owner is just trying to give her horse a chance to live a calmer, more suitable life?
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^^^^ this is a sensible response!
 
You reall y think the horse in the above photos needs to be pts??? They were taken a few weeks ago!!

She cant sell him- why not let someone else enjoy him? He deserves it. I understand what youre all saying, but it is not correct in this case.
 
NO I don't think he needs to be PTS but I think if the owner does not want him he deserves security in his later years and I would not like to think of a horse going blind in changing circumstances. If he were mine I would not PTS I would give him the retirement he deserves even I had to go without the horse I wanted:(
 
Samantha008 said:
You reall y think the horse in the above photos needs to be pts??? They were taken a few weeks ago!!

She cant sell him- why not let someone else enjoy him? He deserves it. I understand what youre all saying, but it is not correct in this case.
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because people take responsibility for the horses till the end of their days - or if sellable - in a good condition/good prospects

I would never sell my horse with something like cataratcs /navicular etc - if i couldnt afford to keep a horse with those conditions etc i would pts.

Yes he may have many years left - he may have a few months left.... people comment on the information given.
 
The horse doesn't "need" to be PTS, he needs to have an owner who won't discard him when he becomes surplus to requirements and he obviously hasn't got that!

OP you've got to have expected the replies that have been posted. Your friend has had years of service from this horse and now he can't fulfill her wants through no fault of his own, she's getting rid. No love lost there :(
 
In my eyes the owner is being responsible.

She can't keep him for whatever reason, she's doing her best to find him a suitable home.

If she can't find him a decent home then obviously she will have to think harder but I do think the horse deserves a chance.

The horse could be on every website going, without mention of his condition, but he's not.

Just my opinion, I think the owner is doing the best she can, and the fact she isn't advertising him proves a lot IMO :)
 
The bitchiness of some of these replies defies belief. The owner is trying to find the best compromise that she can between the fact that she is entitled to live life to the full and wanting to do the best for her horse when she can only afford to keep one.

I wonder how many of you are very young and do not realise that life is different when you are older and you see your chance of achieving something with your riding disappearing with each passing year as you lose your physical abilities.

Horses are not cats and they are not dogs. This horse is not in the house with her, he's in livery. He doesn't think she loves him, and he likes the people he sees around most and who give him his feed. He may like her, but he'll probably have no trouble at all liking someone else who thinks he's the bees knees. Provided she is careful who he goes to, there is no moral problem at all in finding him a new home. Keeping a horse costing thousands of pounds a year in a livery yard and taking hours a week to manage in no way compares to keeping an old cat or dog for a couple of hundred at home.

Give the woman a break. If you can't help her find a good home for this horse for crying out loud please stop preaching at her. Not everyone agrees with you that we owe every horse we buy a home for life. You are not saints, though many of you write as if you think you are. Your horses are no happier than ours and they may even be less happy. Why would a horse be happier being less than its owner needs, when it can live with someone for whom it is the bee's knees? Why do so many people think that no-one can possibly look after their horse as well as they can?

OP I hope your friend finds the right home for her horse and the right horse for what she needs.





ps noodle you would have a perfectly healthy horse with slightly fuzzy eyesight put to sleep just because you could not afford to keep him? REALLY????? And you think somehow that makes you a better owner than the poster's friend?
 
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Sorry, I don't think my previous post makes a lot of sense but hopefully you'll be able to figure it out :p
 
Samantha008 said:
Hes got years and a vet report to prove. I am many things but not a liar.
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I do not think you are a liar but horses deserve security in their retirement and should not be sold on when they start to fail even if they have years left. A condition like this will only get worse and blind horses need a constant and familiar environment.
The point people are trying to make is that it is rather harsh to sell something because it is not as good as it used to be. Your friend may well want a more competitive horse - but surely she owes her present horse a comfortable retirement. If she is unwilling to give this why should she expect anyone else to?? Especially a charity.
I honestly believe if she feels she cannot keep him then she owes him a safe outcome and if that is PTS then so be it. Horses do not fear PTS they have no concept of a future - but they can be afraid and in pain on a daily basis - that is much worse.
 
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I can't believe a vet can certify that this horse has "years" of service left in him, my nan had catteracts and they progressed very quickly, yet my mum had them and they progressed slowly, its utter trash, she wants rid so she can get a better/newer model, if you post this kind of thing on here then you should expect critisism.
 
ABC said:
Just my opinion, I think the owner is doing the best she can, and the fact she isn't advertising him proves a lot IMO :)
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Actually she IS advertising him - on here! She has got a prospective home lined up already, fee free!
 
Samantha isn't the owner, she's a friend so the actual owner hasn't put an advert up.

Surely posting on a horse forum with all the details is better than posting an advert on preloved or something?

I do see what you mean though :)
 
She (the owner) is definitely advertising the horse, she has asked a friend to put an advert on here, no different to asking a friend to stick an ad up in a tack shop.

She (the OP) is definitely advertising the horse and acting as agent for the owner.
 
if she cant afford to have a horse sitting in a field with potential vets bills in the future, maybe loaning him out is the best option as he clearly has more to give someone! i would be doing the same! then when he cant do it anymore with his loaner, then id have him back and PTS. best outcome for both. this forum is a joke sometimes. people are so quick to judge and jump on a band wagon.
 
Sam would he be any good for the riding school? We have one or two with cataracts and the vet is fine with it in the inspection as long as we monitor them.x
 
jemima_too said:
She (the owner) is definitely advertising the horse, she has asked a friend to put an advert on here, no different to asking a friend to stick an ad up in a tack shop.

She (the OP) is definitely advertising the horse and acting as agent for the owner.
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not really - but you know what, i cant be bothered to correct you anymore - try being thankful that someone is trying to sort out a home for him.
 
Dancing Queen said:
not really - but you know what, i cant be bothered to correct you anymore - try being thankful that someone is trying to sort out a home for him.
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You don't need to correct me, I'm not wrong:D

He's been advertised, the advertising has worked with several offers of homes made, at no cost to the advertisers.
 
oh ............ advertising/not advertising, no money is changing hands so does it matter?? Now if it were for sale for a monetary value then maybe there'd be something to argue about!!

OP please don't place strain on charities/rescues that are already heaving by asking one to take this horse, if they took this one, the flood gates would open having everyone wanting to pass on their old or injured horses!!

I'm not against a new suitable home being sought, in life things change, fact! My only plea would be that as the horse is not healthy (i.e a normal sale) I would ask not to 'gift' a horse to someone unknown to you. Keep control of the horse by retaining ownership, by all means look at working livery at riding schools or colleges, loan, etc, but keep hold of his future. Then when he gets to a point where he can't continue a working life and if there is no where to retire to, she can have him pts with him never ending up suffering.
 
ABC said:
In fairness guys this lad has years ahead of him as a hacker or even low level competition. Surely he deserves the chance of a quieter life?

I understand why you think what you think but maybe the owner is just trying to give her horse a chance to live a calmer, more suitable life?
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Totally agree with this. It is unrealistic to think that the owner should HAVE to keep the horse for the rest of its life and it sounds like this horse could have years of pleasure to give someone else so would be a shame and waste to pts.
 
Sorry if this has already been said but I can't read on to the end of the next 3 pages because I'm so cross. OP, hear what people are saying! For crying out loud, the horse has given your friend many years of fun and loyal service. Now he's got inoperable (due to cost) cataracts and sarcoids. What on earth does your friend think will happen when whatever home she finds for him realise that he's just about blind? They'll have exactly the same heartache that your friend has only they won't have the year's of partnership invested in him so may very well try to move him on again. And how many sighted years does he have left? If you think a reputable charity would take someone else's cast off then you're mistaken and nor would the RDA. As another poster has written tell your friend to do right by this horse and either pts with compassion and dignity or grow some and deal with it. Her horse runs the very real risk of ending up at a meat market. Great end for him eh?
 
Whilst I would never part with an animal I owned, I can see the point in those that compete and cannot keep horses they cannot ride for whatever reason (I personally could not) but as pointed out the are expensive animals to keep.

However the whole "he will not be palmed off" or words to that effect made me laugh, esp as the next sentance was " he will go to a charity":rolleyes: is that not the worst form of "palming off" ? do folk/OP think these charities are made of money and just sat awaiting that call for the next piss poor excuse of a hand in:rolleyes: what a shameful way to think.

Otherwise I hope ABC can offer a great home for this horse and I would hope the owner would keep the insurance policy open for the new owner to take the offer of an operation if they feel they could/would like to and want to pay the extra funds or any further complications tha comefrom this condition. (because a new insurance cannot be taken now that would include this condition and im positive they wont accept a complete name change on the exisiting policy.........SO PLEASE GIVE THIS OPTION, its as easy as setting up a direct debit via new owner. It would be a shame if someone could give the operation and the chance is taken away. (is is the least the current owner could do before passing him off)!
 
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Samantha008 said:
My friend has a heart of gold and doesnt want to put him to sleep as he is still perfectly sound and happy and she does ride him out most days.

But she wants a horse she can do lots of things on and Puffin can only really be hacked and cant be jumped to the degree that she wants to and she cant afford to keep him as a companion.

her other option is a charity
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This attitude makes me too angry for words. :mad:

I presume it's a typo and you in fact meant that your friend has a "heart of stone" :rolleyes:
 
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