Help- I need to get my horses back from rescue centre!

It just goes to show that evan with the best of intentions things can go wrong.
I have an 18 year old ****** of a horse..( or somewhere in that age range) Hes a great gentle hack for me but after reading this i do realise that his days will end with me.
I wish the op all the luck in the world in getting her horses back and if nothing else her post stands as a sharp reminder to people like me that our oldies really are better off pts than passed around.
I don t think the criticism is of any use here as the op realises her mistakes and is going to great lengths to sort them out for the horses.
 
Good luck getting your horses back op, im sure you realise now its a minefield trying to move on these types of horses to a safe secure home, thats why others opt for pts, if i could'nt kepp my oldie and broken one i'd pts. Although it would break my heart, your circumstances would break it even more.
Please call Lee at BHS welfare to see if they can help get them back.
Let us know how you get on.
 
Sorry, just let me get this straight. You have a problem horse who was "saved from being PTS", you couldn't do anything with it, don't want a non ridden companion yourself so palm him off to this "rescue centre". Rescue centre then rides him, but not out hacking but in the school (despite in your post earlier saying he bolts out hacking). I'm afraid I see you as a highly iresponsible liability. You have given someone what is if your honest a dangerous horse, told them they can ride it (even though it's also lame) and then get upset when they only ride it in a confined space. If you had a half a shred of morals you would do what's right by both horses and collect them both and drop them both at the hunt kennels on the way home and have both put down together. Problem solved. Coloured horse is no longer a danger to itself or anyone else, retired TB is not going to pine for his companion and you don't have to keep/look after/pay for them anymore. I don't take kindly to people who pass on their useless/ retired friends, the buck must stop with you.
 
luckyoldme said:
It just goes to show that evan with the best of intentions things can go wrong.
I have an 18 year old ****** of a horse..( or somewhere in that age range) Hes a great gentle hack for me but after reading this i do realise that his days will end with me.
I wish the op all the luck in the world in getting her horses back and if nothing else her post stands as a sharp reminder to people like me that our oldies really are better off pts than passed around.
I don t think the criticism is of any use here as the op realises her mistakes and is going to great lengths to sort them out for the horses.
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You are so right , the only way IMO you should pass on an oldie is where it's very close to home and you are involved quite closely.
 
Goldenstar said:
You are so right , the only way IMO you should pass on an oldie is where it's very close to home and you are involved quite closely.
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natalia said:
Sorry, just let me get this straight. You have a problem horse who was "saved from being PTS", you couldn't do anything with it, don't want a non ridden companion yourself so palm him off to this "rescue centre". Rescue centre then rides him, but not out hacking but in the school (despite in your post earlier saying he bolts out hacking). I'm afraid I see you as a highly iresponsible liability. You have given someone what is if your honest a dangerous horse, told them they can ride it (even though it's also lame) and then get upset when they only ride it in a confined space. If you had a half a shred of morals you would do what's right by both horses and collect them both and drop them both at the hunt kennels on the way home and have both put down together. Problem solved. Coloured horse is no longer a danger to itself or anyone else, retired TB is not going to pine for his companion and you don't have to keep/look after/pay for them anymore. I don't take kindly to people who pass on their useless/ retired friends, the buck must stop with you.[/QUOTE

Delightful!
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Delightful![/QUOTE]

I' ll assume that the above comment is intended to be ironic if it is not and you are delighted by my comment I am sorry.
But when you post on a public forum expect debate on the issues around your post I made no reference to your situation directly.
While I am sorry ( mainly for your poor horses ) for your situation a good rule in life is it seems to good to be true it probally is.
 
OP, I'm sure I'm not the only one frustrated that you haven't responded to the one really important post here: the one from Lee at the BHS!

All of us feel involved and concerned for your horses now (and the others at this place) so please, please reassure us you've phoned Lee and are taking his/her advice.

Getting into arguements here to try to clear your name is pointless. Please just do right by your horses instead.
 
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Far rather take them to the hunt kennels than have a bunch of idiots jumping round on them untill they are knackered and then prob bute them up and put them through a dodgy sales ring....

Op I know its hard as I had to have my beautiful pts about a year ago.. I was gutted, he was a 12 year old tb with more problems than I can list. Spent thousands on him to find that he was only suitable as a ccompanion/ light hack... My problem was he would not live out and when living in he was un manageable and his arthritus got to bad... I had to make the hardest desision of my life and it broke my heart but it was right for him.. I could of sold him or given him to someone but to see him passed around would of broken my heart even more.
I have an oldie in the field and it just so happens he had to be retired but he loves to be out, he thinks its great fun but I would never ever let him be anywhere else, he will stay with me iuntill the end,
 
You are all wasting your breathe (erm typing). You can't reason with the level of stupidity where someone thinks it is kinder to dump their horses on strangers rather than look after them or pts
 
FionaM12 said:
OP, I'm sure I'm not the only one frustrated that you haven't responded to the one really important post here: the one from Lee at the BHS!

All of us feel involved and concerned for your horses now (and the others at this place) so please, please reassure us you've phoned Lee and are taking his/her advice.

Getting into arguements here to try to clear your name is pointless. Please just do right by your horses instead.
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Hi Fiona,

I have spoken to Lee he was great, I am seeing my solicitor this afternoon and hope to get this sorted asap!
 
horsegirl said:
You are all wasting your breathe (erm typing). You can't reason with the level of stupidity where someone thinks it is kinder to dump their horses on strangers rather than look after them or pts
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I dont think your really getting the point though are you? I have held my hands up and admitted I have made a poor decision and that now I am trying to put it right, and I am in a position to keep them both now until they retire- when I DO get them back I will happily post you a photo of them HAPPY and enjoying their retirement! Please stop accusing me and listen to the fact I am trying to CORRECT this! Everyone deserves a second chance!
 
Everyone having a go at the OP: What is the point of just abusing her? I believe she admits she's been foolish and is trying, I hope, to put it right.

The point was made by several posters early on that pts might have been better and that passing on older/unsound/unsafe horses often ends this way. Either the OP will see that now, or not. I can't see what's to gain by repeatedly insulting her.

OP, I hope you can sift through, find and use the useful advice in this thread. Please stick around and let us know what happens. Good luck!
 
FionaM12 said:
Everyone having a go at the OP: What is the point of just abusing her? I believe she admits she's been foolish and is trying, I hope, to put it right.

The point was made by several posters early on that pts might have been better and that passing on older/unsound/unsafe horses often ends this way. Either the OP will see that now, or not. I can't see what's to gain by repeatedly insulting her.

OP, I hope you can sift through, find and use the useful advice in this thread. Please stick around and let us know what happens. Good luck!
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totally agree.
good luck op..
 
FionaM12 said:
Everyone having a go at the OP: What is the point of just abusing her? I believe she admits she's been foolish and is trying, I hope, to put it right.

The point was made by several posters early on that pts might have been better and that passing on older/unsound/unsafe horses often ends this way. Either the OP will see that now, or not. I can't see what's to gain by repeatedly insulting her.

OP, I hope you can sift through, find and use the useful advice in this thread. Please stick around and let us know what happens. Good luck!
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I agree with this. OP just sounds like someone a bit naive who followed their heart rather than their head and grasped at straws, thinking she had found somewhere good for her horses.. She has admitted she was silly and is trying to sort the situation out - hence coming on here for advice, not abuse! I'm glad you have spoken to the BHS and your solicitor, and hope things work out for you and the horses. I think the moral here is that, assuming you get the horses back, the coloured retires forever on your parent's farm and is never rehomed, or else he is PTS to prevent him being passed around anymore.. Good luck.x
 
I wish u the best off luck.
This " non profit" org is a complete joke to say the least and yes iv also seen the pics off a very very heavy person backing a Shetland plus your boy being ridden by a very heavy bloke. I was disguested to say the least. most off the horses in the place are brought from the sales so yet again it's a case off " paying for private horses"
owner also known for her temp towards the horses
 
amymay said:
So, just in case you missed them - I'll repeat my questions for you:

Where is this place based?
Have you spoken to the BHS legal line (if you are a gold member)?
And is this place a registered charity?
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south west devon/cornwall boarders.
nope they are not!



thatsmygirl said:
OP could u pm me the place please? Iv got a feeling I know where it it and the lady has a very nasty temper. Is she expecting a baby? The owner that is
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thatsmygirl said:
I wish u the best off luck.
This " non profit" org is a complete joke to say the least and yes iv also seen the pics off a very very heavy person backing a Shetland plus your boy being ridden by a very heavy bloke. I was disguested to say the least. most off the horses in the place are brought from the sales so yet again it's a case off " paying for private horses"
owner also known for her temp towards the horses
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om very glad someone else is aware of this place, re the shetland im not sure what is worse the far to heavy person or the saddle on the poor mite.

to everyone else.

the op, has done her best by this horse, when she originally bought it she was unaware of most of its history, barring knowing it had been through dealers and sales rings, yet in its day had been a graded stallion and a good show horse.
she has done her best to protect this horse whilst rewarding him with a happy ending, she has tried to stay in contact with said rescue, and be kept up to date on both horses progress, but said rescue turned nasty on her.

thats not a bad horse owner, its an owner trying to actully do the best for a horse that realy did deserve to go and eat grass, and enjoy his last days.

whilst you all bitch, just keep in mind one day, no matter way you say, with the way the horse world is these days you just can not guarentee anything simular will not ever happen to you.
 
JH, Did the OP not want to keep the general location a secret?

I have not gone through all the posts so she has maybe named it already.

I keep getting shot down everytime I comment so all I would like to say today is......................isnt it a lovely day today, slightly chilly though..
 
sgcoolchick said:
Hi Fiona,

I have spoken to Lee he was great, I am seeing my solicitor this afternoon and hope to get this sorted asap!
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I've followed the thread but everything I would have said was already covered... Hope your solicitor will have some options for legal resolution this afternoon...

:)
 
guido16 said:
JH, Did the OP not want to keep the general location a secret?

I have not gone through all the posts so she has maybe named it already.

I keep getting shot down everytime I comment so all I would like to say today is......................isnt it a lovely day today, slightly chilly though..
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in the area i gave there are a few rescue centres...

weathers pants, i want hot sun damn it!
 
OP be very cautious of going to law over this.

Judging from what you/others have said, she is not unlikely to send the horses to auction the moment she gets your solicitor's first letter, knowing that once they are not in her possession and you cannot get them back from her that it will not be worth your while to sue her. Unless you know where the auction is and when you could lose contact with them completely.

This isn't really a case of whether she is legally right or wrong. The law will take far too long to sort that out. It's just a case of making the best of a bad job.

I do hope you manage to get this sorted, but the most likely way to actually get them back safely is to go and offer to pay her for them. I had to do this with a horse of mine once, so I know what you are going through :(
 
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