Help needed - advice on over zealour barefoot trim

i have a horse that bare foot and pony thats barefoot. Our farrier is really good and their shoes have been off for three years. i was just wondering how old her horse is as my horse he's an old boy and sometimes gets sore feet in the winter due to all the wet and cold wether puts a strain on his feet for a day but a bute in his feed at night seems to do the trick and he's fine after that.
 
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depends on the severity of the pulse-if its high and come on since its been trimmed??

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I cannot say when the pulses appeared other than he had them tonight. I have been lucky enough never to have come across pulses before - I know what and where to look but would not know what would be considered high?
 
Laminitis can be brought on by farrier work....however that is usually because of the stress to the hoof with having shoes and nails banged on.

I have never heard of a horse getting laminitis because of a too-short trim though. I would seriously doubt that the digital pulse has anything to do with the trim (although I stand to be corrected) and my guess would be that the horse either has laminitis, an abcess or suffered some other physical trauma.

I am surprised that all of the people on here are saying that none of their horses are footy after being trimmed. All of mine are footy for at least a day afterwards and my farrier is a terrific farrier and all of my horses have fabulous feet. All I can think is that perhaps you lot aren't taking your horses out on stony ground after being trimmed
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I have never heard of a horse getting laminitis because of a too-short trim though. I would seriously doubt that the digital pulse has anything to do with the trim (although I stand to be corrected) and my guess would be that the horse either has laminitis, an abcess or some other physical trauma.


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Please consider yourself corrected
 
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I am surprised that all of the people on here are saying that none of their horses are footy after being trimmed. All of mine are footy for at least a day afterwards and my farrier is a terrific farrier

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I cannot believe what I am reading
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Laminitis can be brought on by farrier work....however that is usually because of the stress to the hoof with having shoes and nails banged on.

I have never heard of a horse getting laminitis because of a too-short trim though. I would seriously doubt that the digital pulse has anything to do with the trim (although I stand to be corrected) and my guess would be that the horse either has laminitis, an abcess or some other physical trauma.

I am surprised that all of the people on here are saying that none of their horses are footy after being trimmed. All of mine are footy for at least a day afterwards and my farrier is a terrific farrier and all of my horses have fabulous feet. All I can think is that perhaps you lot aren't taking your horses out on stony ground after being trimmed
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Tia he has pulses in 3 of his feet. His fronts being really quite noticeable. He has never suffered laminitus before, is on no hard feed. He was sore immediately after the trim on Friday and has got no better at all. Even walking on smooth concrete causes him discomfort, he is reluctant to go over the stones even with his boots on.
 
my old pony had a laminitis attack when her feet were allowed to become too short. It was severe and in both back feet. Would imagine it would be a similar scenario to this.
My horses are never footie or sore after shoeing, never have been - would be horrified if they were.
 
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All I can think is that perhaps you lot aren't taking your horses out on stony ground after being trimmed
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Yes, I am.
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My horses are never footie or sore after shoeing

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Shoeing?? Barefoot horses do NOT wear shoes LOL!
 
Talis can sometimes be a bit footy when trimmed. He's having remedial trimming as his right fore toes out.

Having said that, he's only like that for the first day or two at the most and only when walking over the new pathway (about 10 m) that Duncan put down in quite chunky hardcore a few months ago.

Must say though Tia, my friend's little pony had laminitis brought on by having his toes cut far too short. Bleeding into the laminae stretched them and the pottery gait turned into lami after a couple of days. At least the vet blamed the farrier, should I say
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Can you see if the farrier has shaved the sole? Have the pony's bars been taken off? Can you clearly see the white line and is it in the correct position in relation to the hoof wall?
 
Ok - so lets assume he does indeed have laminitus bought on my the trim. What should she be doing? I assume taking off haylage and putting on well soaked hay, bute and box rest?
 
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Can you see if the farrier has shaved the sole? Have the pony's bars been taken off? Can you clearly see the white line and is it in the correct position in relation to the hoof wall?

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I was'nt there when he was trimmed but friend says sole was not touched
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Oh for sure if the toes are cut back to the white line it could cause damage to the internal structure of the hoof.
 
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I am surprised that all of the people on here are saying that none of their horses are footy after being trimmed. All of mine are footy for at least a day afterwards and my farrier is a terrific farrier and all of my horses have fabulous feet. All I can think is that perhaps you lot aren't taking your horses out on stony ground after being trimmed
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I do take her on stony ground, she has to go over stones to go down the track. I admit that her feet do not grow very quickly so she only needs a small amount taken off or rasped, not had a problem yet (touch wood) she used to me more sore (terrible english, sorry!) when she has shod!

Spotties - If I knew the horse well, knew it was not allergic to bute, had had bute before, it was a good friends horse and I would do the same if it was my horse then I personally would give the horse a bute. If it took some pain away overnight and gave it a break then I would. I am not suggesting for one moment that you start giving horses bute willy nilly. Its just my opinion though and that is what was asked for
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so lets assume he does indeed have laminitus bought on my the trim. What should she be doing? I assume taking off haylage and putting on well soaked hay, bute and box rest?

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Laminitis caused by mechanical action is managed differently than that caused by metabolic action
 
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so lets assume he does indeed have laminitus bought on my the trim. What should she be doing? I assume taking off haylage and putting on well soaked hay, bute and box rest?

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Laminitis caused by mechanical action is managed differently than that caused by metabolic action

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So how is it managed?
 
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Ok - so lets assume he does indeed have laminitus bought on my the trim. What should she be doing? I assume taking off haylage and putting on well soaked hay, bute and box rest?

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Call the vet!!
 
Vet prescribes bute for pain relief and sedalin as ACP is supposed to do something within the foot...can't remember what though. lol

Deep shavings bed (not on straw as horsey will eat it), well soaked hay too. I think he's box rested for a month too (but that might be wrong).

When it happens to my friend's pony (she's a member here but only on in the day so may answer tomorrow) the vet never suggests anything like frog supports either.
 
Generally ACP's to lower DP, bute to ease swelling and for pain control. Feed lo-sugar feedstuffs, gentle exercise if horse can manage to keep the blood circulating.

She needs to call the vet and he will diagnose correctly and give her the correct treatment.
 
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