Help, new horse - taking the pee or not?

RubyFrench

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I've had my horse on loan for just over 2 weeks now and he seemed perfectly placid and gentle (he still is 90% of the time) but there have been a few incidents lately, I'm wandering if he might be getting fizzed up from all the sugar in the grass or is he trying it on with me?

1) on a hack, tried him down a new path which turned out to be very pebbley and he didn't seem to like it, he took me up a bank into the fence then when I eventually reversed him back down he tried to turn toward home and run, but I spun him round, determined not to let him beat me, he got a bit further then just spun round and ran all the way back towards home till we reached the main pathway (put it down to stones), so I tried him our normal way but in reverse, he put his brakes on and refused to budge despite much despair, kicking and squeezing (I ended up borrowing a whip from someone in the field) we put it down to a plastic covered haylage ball.

2) took him down another new way through the woods, he saw 2 horse way ahead, took their path (I tried to take him down another way but he wouldn't listen) it turns out to be a path with LOTS of over hanging branches, and he starts cantering... Que me crouching over his neck trying to hold on for dear life, and several tree branches to the head and face and I get knocked to the ground (haven't been back on him yet since my coxix is still very bruised). He is usually har work to keep walking, this was very out of character.

3) last couple of times when bringing him in from the field he has tried to run away (very unlike him) but today, 3 additional horses had been put in our field (usually just mine and 1 other) while the tractor worked out the other fields, he ran off, when I eventually caught him he would not move for love nor money, I pulled and pulled. 10 minutes later he obviously realized I wasn't giving in so gingerly started walking, stopping every so often. Was he wanting to stay with his new friends? Even though his tea was waiting for him! Or doesn't he like me? :(

Please help, I want to stop this before I get hurt again or lose my confidence.

P.s. He is out grazing all the time other than a 4-5 hour period when I bring him in to give him a break off the grass, during this time he has access to hay and his his tea (1 scoop hifi lite, few carrots)
 
Yes, he is testing you. He doesn't trust you yet and doesn't believe you will keep him out of danger. Groundwork will help, especially while your bum is still sore. Also, invest in a rope halter and if he stops and plants give him a short sharp tug - not a constant pull and if he's walking nicely allow the rope to be slack. While hacking for the first few weeks, go out with someone else and take a schooling whip. For solo hacks, keep them short and preferably in a confined area like round the farm if you can.
 
My new horse was almost exactly the same, napping and not hacking out on his own, trying to bugger off back home to my mare etc. I think he had lost some of his confidence as his whole world had basically been turned upside down, new place, new friends, new hacks etc.

I started by doing some groundwork and also just gently riding him around in his field so my other mare was still there, then started schooling him in the paddock next door. Also, i got someone else to hack out with me so that he could get to know some of the routes, hes been a total donkey with other horses! Now I can hack him alone on the routes he knows no problem. Hope that helps!
 
Youve only had him 2 weeks, thats no time at all for you to understand him let alone him understand you. It takes years to form a partnership with a new horse, not 2 weeks!
 
My new horse was almost exactly the same, napping and not hacking out on his own, trying to bugger off back home to my mare etc. I think he had lost some of his confidence as his whole world had basically been turned upside down, new place, new friends, new hacks etc.

I started by doing some groundwork and also just gently riding him around in his field so my other mare was still there, then started schooling him in the paddock next door. Also, i got someone else to hack out with me so that he could get to know some of the routes, hes been a total donkey with other horses! Now I can hack him alone on the routes he knows no problem. Hope that helps!

This is very good advice and is exactly what I'm doing. I've had my horse 3 weeks tomo and like yours, she totally takes the pee pee out of me (although she doesn't run home) she will nap and reverse on solo hacks, she will not stand still to be mounted etc

I suppose all you/I can think is, if someone suddenly put you in a lorry, took you to someone else's house and the person there started telling you what to do, whilst leaving you in a room with people you don't know, how would you react?

It's back to basics with me and my girl. We're working on ground manners, I spend lots of time grooming her and fiddling with her. We go out for a nice cow parsley and grass snack in hand (coffee morning equivalent!) now she shouts for me when I arrive! :D I'm off to ride her later, and we're staying in her paddock for now. All I would like is 20 mins good walking with no disasters. We'll do that a few times, then trot, then group hack......

Oh, and I'm also moving yard with her at the end of the month because where I am currently doesn't have any facilities, and I need a school to be safe. We may have to start again but the new yard has a really good feel to it, everybody is smiley happy so fingers crossed for us! And you :D x
 
thanks everyone for the replies, some good advice in there!

i did forget to mention that i have not moved yards with him - he is 12 and has been there since he was 3 months old!

i'm going riding saturday (first time since i fell off) and have found someone to go out with so i'll see what he is like. his owner (the yard manager) did ride him for me twice after i told her what happened and she admitted he seemed rather lively compared to normal! he does seem better/happier when i have hacked out alone with my mom/boyfriend walking beside me, although i feel guilty that i get to sit there and they have to walk quite far! hehe.

i have got a rope halter, i just didn't have it on him at the time (a must for bringing in i feel!)

can anyone give me any pointers on groundwork please?

thanks again :)
 
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