Help please, hoping to rehome

Daytona said:
Total codswallop , what justification is there for this..? Zero..

Because it's a large dog.? And one was linked unfairly with the death of a child recently, that's the only reason you say this. Brainwashed by trash newspapers.

And here us Brits meant to be a nation of animal lovers....
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HAHAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH You think I value the papers?!! No, I REALLY don't
 
Daytona said:
A foster carer beat the dog..? Well the rescue really needs to be more careful with home checking people who work for them.

All out foster carers are experienced trust worthy people who can handle and asses dogs. To hear of a foster beating a dog that's disgusting .
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Yes, it is disgusting that it happened, especially considering the foster home knew she was already brain damaged.
The thing is, the person that kicked her was not the foster carer, he was a guest of the foster carer. This is my point. Just because a dog is rehomed through a good centre does not guarantee that the dog will be safe or that other dogs/people will be safe.

The rescue centres can be as careful as they want to, but it won't change the fact that a dog with a stable life will have that turned on its head which makes them more of a risk anyway and when you add a known history to that, it increases any risk.

It's not that I don't care about the emotions of the humans involved and my heart goes out to the OP as this all sounds very distressing for her but that is kind of why I make my point. If this dog is put to sleep getting a big cuddle from people she knows, she will know nothing other than love in her life. If she's rehomed, there is a great big loaded question mark over her future and I put HER welfare above human emotion.
 
Moomin1 said:
Actually, on this occasion I will admit defeat. I do not know anything more of this sort of situation other than reading from papers.
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Thank you sorry to have sounded harsh

It's just we spend so much time trying to undo the damage papers do , feeding people's brains with utter lies about certain dogs and because the people reading it know nothing on the breed or it's traits they believe it.

It's so frustrating, we take 1 step forward to be knocked 20 back.

I believe having worked with different rescues over the years these 2 "blips" as there being called do not warrant this animal to be destroyed.

So when I see people who don't work with dogs, don't know the breed it's upsets me a little.

Leave decisions like that to the experts, a breed specific rescue will make the right call.
 
Daytona said:
Thank you sorry to have sounded harsh

It's just we spend so much time trying to undo the damage papers do , feeding people's brains with utter lies about certain dogs and because the people reading it know nothing on the breed or it's traits they believe it.

It's so frustrating, we take 1 step forward to be knocked 20 back.

I believe having worked with different rescues over the years these 2 "blips" as there being called do not warrant this animal to be destroyed.

So when I see people who don't work with dogs, don't know the breed it's upsets me a little.

Leave decisions like that to the experts, a breed specific rescue will make the right call.
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Just please do me a favour and don't jump to accusations. I worked as a behaviour therapist with all breeds for many years. I gave up not because it became so hard to see dogs with behavioural issues as I believe that they can be changed. I gave up because I came to find it too heartbreaking to see beautiful dogs go from loving homes where they were the centre of somebody's world to being confined to a kennel in a strange place with a fraction of the attention they once knew and then going into a few different homes sometimes before a permanent one could be found...and that was the lucky ones.

I hate the idea of any healthy animal being put to sleep, but I do believe that sometimes it is the best thing for the animal. Should it happen, no. Absolutely not. But then, when you make the decision to get a dog, you should keep the dog no matter what. I hope this doesn't offend the OP as I really do feel for her, but this dog, like so many others has shown the behaviours that the owners dislike BECAUSE of the upbringing/handling/management that the owners have given her. Now, rather than take responsibility for their own failings in the management of this dog, they want to pass her on. I have no doubt that even the thought of it tears them to pieces so I don't say this to bash them, but it doesn't change the reality. They are responsible for how the dog is. The sad thing is, if the dog is a joy most of the time, they have largely done a very good job with her and it is likely that a good behaviourist who understands how different dogs tick could advise a few teeny changes that would make her an ideal dog for the family. The biggest change is access. If they wish to rehome because they worry for their child/children...no problem as regardless of the breed or the dogs history, no dog should be allowed free rein with any child anyway and we all know that breed is irrelevant in that case.

Even the experts, which I would never call myself even with my experience, can't know everything and can't be sure that nothing will ever happen, just because the dog was rehomed through their centre. Hope that makes sense.

We both want the same thing, what is best for the dog. We just have different ideas of perhaps what that is.
 
_GG_ said:
Just please do me a favour and don't jump to accusations. I worked as a behaviour therapist with all breeds for many years. I gave up not because it became so hard to see dogs with behavioural issues as I believe that they can be changed. I gave up because I came to find it too heartbreaking to see beautiful dogs go from loving homes where they were the centre of somebody's world to being confined to a kennel in a strange place with a fraction of the attention they once knew and then going into a few different homes sometimes before a permanent one could be found...and that was the lucky ones.

I hate the idea of any healthy animal being put to sleep, but I do believe that sometimes it is the best thing for the animal. Should it happen, no. Absolutely not. But then, when you make the decision to get a dog, you should keep the dog no matter what. I hope this doesn't offend the OP as I really do feel for her, but this dog, like so many others has shown the behaviours that the owners dislike BECAUSE of the upbringing/handling/management that the owners have given her. Now, rather than take responsibility for their own failings in the management of this dog, they want to pass her on. I have no doubt that even the thought of it tears them to pieces so I don't say this to bash them, but it doesn't change the reality. They are responsible for how the dog is. The sad thing is, if the dog is a joy most of the time, they have largely done a very good job with her and it is likely that a good behaviourist who understands how different dogs tick could advise a few teeny changes that would make her an ideal dog for the family. The biggest change is access. If they wish to rehome because they worry for their child/children...no problem as regardless of the breed or the dogs history, no dog should be allowed free rein with any child anyway and we all know that breed is irrelevant in that case.

Even the experts, which I would never call myself even with my experience, can't know everything and can't be sure that nothing will ever happen, just because the dog was rehomed through their centre. Hope that makes sense.

We both want the same thing, what is best for the dog. We just have different ideas of perhaps what that is.
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Err was not speaking to you ..????
 
I don't see that the dog's size/breed is completely irrelevant, and obviously it makes a different how easy it would be for it to kill something JR sized. But surely to a certain extent it's sheer size also means that there are limitations placed on how much the handler can intervene/prevent a fight/bite from happening? If the dog had been smaller it is quite possible that it wouldn't have been able to bite the man for instance.

So yes, I probably would be more inclined to suggest a larger dog be PTS than something lab sized purely because of 1) the increased damage that can be done/death in a short time, 2) the physical limitations of a human being able to step in if things get heated.
 
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