Help please -- vetting gone wrong

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Hi, a friend of ours sold a horse 5 months ago, it passed a 5 stage vetting, new owner has now come out of the woodwork saying its lame and has been for 3 months, and MRI scan is showing old injury that had been medicated (not sure how they can tell this), my friend only had the horse for 4 months and sold it because it wasnt careful enough for top level show jumping (it was lazy and would knock a pole or 2 in every class), she told new owners all of this and they were happy as just wanted to hack and do low level RC stuff / eventing. Will my friend have to take the horse back as she knows nothing of this 'old' injury and previous to her the horse came over from Irealnd ???????????
 
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Friend wont have to take the horse back, she sold it being as honest as possible and if the new owner had it vetted and it passed they have no comeback on your friend. There will always be some people who try and blame others when things go wrong
 
No! Horse passed vetting, buyers were happy to buy at their own risk.

If old owner knew nothing of the old injury, it's not exactly going to show up on her own vet records- not that the old owner owes the current owners anything, of course. They were happy to buy, the horse having passed the vetting etc. It's been 5 months, not 2 weeks! I'm afraid you take the risk when buying any horse. Things go wrong!

It's going to sound awful and hard of me but there are too many chancers out there and your friend needs to wash her hands. I feel for the owners, I am sure they are genuine but it's a can of worms waiting to open, if she gets involved.
 
hotair said:
Friend wont have to take the horse back, she sold it being as honest as possible and if the new owner had it vetted and it passed they have no comeback on your friend. There will always be some people who try and blame others when things go wrong
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While I agree there should be no comeback on your friend, if she genuinely knew nothing about the injury, the new owners have every right to feel upset as the horse has an injury which may be serious enough to finish its career or at least mean time off and treatment probably out of their pocket as the insurance are unlikely to pay, so to say they are looking to blame others is unfair as in this case the horse was probably sold on without the injury being declared so someone has been dishonest it is just too far back for any comeback.
 
As long as friend knew nothing about old injury and advertised horse completely honestly there's no problem. I take it she's not a dealer - although even if she was, 5 months is a long time.
 
No she is not a dealer, it was a very honest sale, previous owner in Ireland had the horse 3 years and says she knows nothing of this injury !!!!!!!!!!
 
Horse passed a 5 stage vetting and if friend genuinely knew nothing they surely can't be expected to take the horse back!? Did they also have bloods taken for the 5 stage vetting? If so I thought they were kept for 6 months to be reun to test for doping/medicating etc. I'd suggest they have them run if you know you weren't medicating the horse!
 
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No she is not a dealer, it was a very honest sale, previous owner in Ireland had the horse 3 years and says she knows nothing of this injury !!!!!!!!!!
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If the previous owner is genuine there is every possibility that either the buyers are trying it on or that the vets have made an error in diagnosing it, I am not sure how they can tell it has been medicated, I thought they were possibly guessing that it had as steroid treatment can often help for a year or so then things go wrong again, either way your friend should not be worried but it is still gutting when these situations happen.
 
Passed the vetting, and takes 5 months for them to come back - hmmmm!
5 days yes, there would be potential concerns but even after 8 weeks there would be no come back unless she has concealed anything.
Easiest way to clear things from her POV is to offer access to the horse's vet records to show no treatment been given.

There is no way to see if a joint has been medicated on any imaging method, so it sounds to me as though they are pulling a fast one. You could see if the horse has had a previous operative procedure on detailed imaging like an MRI or with an athroscopy but after more than about 6 months scar tissue will be established and there would be no way of identifying when the surgery took place.
 
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While I agree there should be no comeback on your friend, if she genuinely knew nothing about the injury, the new owners have every right to feel upset as the horse has an injury which may be serious enough to finish its career or at least mean time off and treatment probably out of their pocket as the insurance are unlikely to pay, so to say they are looking to blame others is unfair as in this case the horse was probably sold on without the injury being declared so someone has been dishonest it is just too far back for any comeback.
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if the horse had a 5 stage vetting the insurance will pay as the horse was given the all clear by a vet-I reckon new owners are trying it on as i don't think you would be able to know for sure if an injury that old had been medicated in the past
 
be positive said:
While I agree there should be no comeback on your friend, if she genuinely knew nothing about the injury, the new owners have every right to feel upset as the horse has an injury which may be serious enough to finish its career or at least mean time off and treatment probably out of their pocket as the insurance are unlikely to pay, so to say they are looking to blame others is unfair as in this case the horse was probably sold on without the injury being declared so someone has been dishonest it is just too far back for any comeback.
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But that's the same with any horse. They're an animal, they will get stuff wrong with them.

If the injury was medicated and this had enough of an effect for the horse to pass a five stage, could they not just re-medicate? I would point that out to them ;)

I agree also that it passed the vetting so should be covered by insurance. AND that there's no way of telling if joints have been medicated.
 
It's sad for them but I think I would just advise them that as the horse was sold in good faith and passed a 5 stage vetting, they should take it up with the vet not the vendor. And then I'd stop any contact with them to be honest. Their is always the possibility that they just don't get on with the horse and want rid. :(
 
What southern comfort said. The horse passed a 5 stage vetting so the seller should take it up with the vet who passed it as sound
 
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