Help - Pony Club "traditional jackets"

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Hi all

Can any one please tell me what a "traditional jacket" is as stated in the pony club SJ rules? Is it only tweed? I have been informed this is what i supposed to wear with only a few days before area :O but have competed in Navy for years & recently brought this jacket: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shires-Ladies-Henley-Show-Jacket-/200903861571
In Navy/Red as my old navy jacket is a bit scruffy including missing a button!

Am I going to try & have to scrounge a tweed?
Thanks
 
I am no expert on pony club rules but I would THINK it means a jacket of traditional cut and style as opposed to the new blouson, zip up style ones.
I wouldn't think you need a tweed but could you/your mum sew a button onto your old navy and take it along as a spare in case?
 
Yeah I could probably try taking the bottom one off sewing that on as the top one & then replacing the bottom button. Been looking for ages for gold buttons to match unfortunately but if the bottom a different one wouldn't be so noticeable.

I thought the same re: cut as I'd competed in my other navy one for so long, but then I thought about the red collar & know how particular the pony club are :rolleyes3: .
I've already had to scrounge a numnah off my my neighbour in order to "match".
 
Yeah I have emailed the team organiser, waiting for a reply & thought I'd put it up on here in case anyone else knew what was and wasn't allowed. In the rules it just says: " A traditional jacket must be worn with a pony club tie or hunting stock".
I thought traditional related to the cut not colour but have been told to wear tweed :confused3:
 
jenki13 said:
Yeah I have emailed the team organiser, waiting for a reply & thought I'd put it up on here in case anyone else knew what was and wasn't allowed. In the rules it just says: " A traditional jacket must be worn with a pony club tie or hunting stock".
I thought traditional related to the cut not colour but have been told to wear tweed :confused3:
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Yes traditional pony club jacket is a tweed jacket.

All these rules are irritating arent they
 
billylula said:
Yes traditional pony club jacket is a tweed jacket.

All these rules are irritating arent they
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OK thanks for that my aunt is looking for her old hunting tweed as that should fit! I still have to find a non-white stock though.

It's just annoying as the last time I competed for pony club I did so in a navy jacket & nothing was said. The pony club and their "traditions". I'm even having to get my 24/7/365 outside living horse stabled the night before just so she can be plaited (which could be interesting in itself) by another aunt. I can't plait for the life of me can't even do human hair :p & the horse is not good to plait so I must admit I gave up. I just go for the clean & tidy look normally!
 
I think the PC rules are as they are for a combination of safety and tradition (they serve the same purpose of school uniforms, ie to stop peer pressure on what to wear and not wear).

Tweed, black or navy (for girls) is fine. Numnahs should be plain black, brown or navy (white for dressage). Logos should be branch ones only and fairly discreet.

Speak to your DC as they will be able to tell you, and if you are part of a team rather than just an individual they may matching numnahs for you all to turn out the same.

Plaiting is done as a sign of respect for the judges/hosts who are giving up their time to enable the competition to go ahead.

Good luck and enjoy
 
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Lizzie66 said:
I think the PC rules are as they are for a combination of safety and tradition (they serve the same purpose of school uniforms, ie to stop peer pressure on what to wear and not wear).

Tweed, black or navy (for girls) is fine. Numnahs should be plain black, brown or navy (white for dressage). Logos should be branch ones only and fairly discreet.

Speak to your DC as they will be able to tell you, and if you are part of a team rather than just an individual they may matching numnahs for you all to turn out the same.

Plaiting is done as a sign of respect for the judges/hosts who are giving up their time to enable the competition to go ahead.

Good luck and enjoy
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Thanks, I thought navy/black were fine.... I feel more pressure being told to wear a certain jacket (that goes beyond the rules!). We are using white numnahs to all look the same, if I hadn't been able to borrow one then I would have ridden in black as per the rules.

See I don't entirely see plaiting thing I know it looks good but if I did them they'd look shocking & it's not like I'd drag my horse in from the field covered in mud, throw dirty tack on & compete! Her manes pulled, tail was going to be but unless tomorrow I can get near the back end without being knocked over (temperamental horse :mad: ) unfortunately it won't, which I feel bad about. She will be getting bathed tomorrow rain or shine, as today she's splashing around in puddles & would be getting muddy again within 5 minutes.
If I'm running/ helping to run something as long as the competitors turn on time, are polite & neat & tidy that's pretty much all I care about but each to their own I suppose. :)
 
Different pony clubs have different rules, the dc of my pony club would freak at a red collar for example and mostly tweed, plain navy or plain black is what people tend to wear, but it really does depend on each pony club, as long as you're not wearing anything outrageous you should be fine, just make sure your horse is plaited and you look presentable :)
 
Hi,
I don't believe tweed is compulsory but it is preferred, you don't say what level you are competing at but at our recent Novice area competition there was a "tack and turnout" competition in addition to the jumping.

For this you are marked for rider presentation, horse presentation and overall team presentation. The markers are really picky and your jacket will be marked down because of the red detailing (it is this which is against the PC rules - jackets should be plain.) I imagine it is for this that you have been asked to wear tweed so that the team all match??

The best person to talk to is your team manager as I am quite sure (from our experience) that different branches have very different ideas on what is correct turnout!!

Whatever you decide to wear - good luck and have fun.
 
Yeah I didn't really think about the collar when I brought it, I just prefer navy now as I haven't ridden in tweed since I was 15!
Spoke to my DC, she was fine with it - I made sure to mention the red collar. Double checked the rules and at the top it say plain dress is expected but then goes on to say that any addition will just be marked down in tack & turnout. So not against the rules per se but slightly frowned upon. I also only have a white stock which is most definitely "not the done thing" with tweed & I couldn't find one to borrow.
However her theory was "As long as you are clean & tidy its fine". I'm only doing the novice & to be quite honest I'm there to jump not do a showing competition :wink3: . I will be clean, presentable & plaited, although with my horse this may only be for 10mins before it slobbers/snots on me or pushes me over probably :rolleyes3: :p

Thanks all for the good luck messages :)
 
This reminds me of why I have never encouraged my kids to even think about competing for our (lovely) PC branch. I find getting organised to make it to a competition hard enough, without having to worry about complying with outdated dress / turnout codes. All we manage these days is the odd local show, the more relaxed the better.
 
lme said:
This reminds me of why I have never encouraged my kids to even think about competing for our (lovely) PC branch. I find getting organised to make it to a competition hard enough, without having to worry about complying with outdated dress / turnout codes. All we manage these days is the odd local show, the more relaxed the better.
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The dress codes can be quite outdated I must admit! I am very lucky that I know my DC very well & spoke to her to get it all sorted because as far as I could see what I was going to wear wasn't against the rules.
The rules are generally the same as those for unaffiliated shows, in terms of jodphur colour/jackets. Its just area that always gets people in a tizz because they want to "make an impression" it think it doesn't help that a lot of branches in our area are very big & "well of" some even coming in exact matching jackets or brand new team colours.
 
The good thing I find about pony club is because the turnout is limited in range there is always a ready market easily to hand for your secondhand whatever it is your child/next pony has outgrown/is too big for. Try selling a maroon or green numnah and you'll see what I mean!

Once in pony club it's simple to just buy beige jods (for comps and working rallies) and navy or black (for trainings and to use at home), and a stash of black numnahs (we can borrow or buy a special branch numnah (embroidered) for competitions. Always stacks of it secondhand, I've never bought a new black numnah and on a £10 budget have acquired 6 Numed Hi Wither which would be over £25 each new. My best was getting a HUUUUGE bag of jods on Freegle, and being able to fish about 6 out for my daughter, the rest were too small but went gratefully to other club members. We're not a super fussy branch in terms of matchy matchy as we're a small branch with lots of families - some have 4 kids - and hand-me-downs (including the ponies!), but our DC is very particular on ensuring the kids know how to do it and the standards expected of them.

With tack & turnout, the competition is keen, but it helps the children to learn to turn out a clean and tidy pony with clean tack quickly - at camp they have 1 hour to do it and the stable, they get marked on it. After a year in pony club I can simply leave my daughter to get on with it. Much easier for the parent.
 
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