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Well my yearling came in this afternoon and whilst I was brushing her she yawned in my face and I spotted these....

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So what are they? Friend and I can only think of Bots....any other ideas??
 
They look like bot larvae entry burrows to me. Make sure you worm with ivermectin or moxidectin based product next time they are due.
 
Sam22 said:
They look like bot larvae entry burrows to me. Make sure you worm with ivermectin or moxidectin based product next time they are due.
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She is due a wormer now, am actually buying one tomorrow. Do you know if Equest Pramox has ivermectin or moxidectin in or if there is anyway fo googling??
 
Equest pramox has moxidectin so will be perfect. It lasts for 13 weeks. You should but some antibacterial cream on sores whilst they heal so they don't get infected. They heal on their own but occassionaly take a very long time and need some steroid cream to finish them off.
 
Sam22 said:
Equest pramox has moxidectin so will be perfect. It lasts for 13 weeks. You should but some antibacterial cream on sores whilst they heal so they don't get infected. They heal on their own but occassionaly take a very long time and need some steroid cream to finish them off.
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Fabulous! thank you very much.
 
Too early for bot eggs. Larvae hatch only when they've been ingested by the horse licking at the eggs and swallowing them don't they? As ned is a youngster, juvenile warts would be easily possible but they look too big and flat to me. I'd watch and monitor. If a hundred more similar lumps pop up, it's juvenile warts and nothing to worry about - they will resolve without any assistance as the horse's immune system develops. If they grow or ulcerate or bleed then I'd get the vet out to make sure they aren't sarcoids.
 
Box_Of_Frogs said:
Too early for bot eggs. Larvae hatch only when they've been ingested by the horse licking at the eggs and swallowing them don't they? As ned is a youngster, juvenile warts would be easily possible but they look too big and flat to me. I'd watch and monitor. If a hundred more similar lumps pop up, it's juvenile warts and nothing to worry about - they will resolve without any assistance as the horse's immune system develops. If they grow or ulcerate or bleed then I'd get the vet out to make sure they aren't sarcoids.
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What if she had bot eggs last summer? could this not be from that infestation? I only got her in Feb and she was, I was told, wormed with a broad spectrum wormer in December. She will be wormed today with equest pramox as she is due anyway.

I doubt they are juvenille warts as they just dont look like them....theyre dryer and cover most of the muzzle, these are on her lip, I had to pull her lip back to see them otherwise they are not visible.

The sores look better today than they did yesterday, so if they are not from Bots theres an awful lot of things they could be....so far ive been told, herpes/coldsores, ulcers/blisters and now maybe possible sarcoids.......Will keep you all updated! Thanks for your help :)
 
You will need a vet which has seen exactly these before - maybe send that picture to Derek Knottenbelt at Liverpool. He'll certainly tell you whether to worry or not.

And when you find the answer - post it in the sticky above, with the photo!
 
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just a though and probably way off but has his field got buttercups in ??

one of mine gets something very similar (although not so raised) and we believe shes sensitive to the buttercups at this time of year

hope you get it sorted
 
my mare gets these every year and I noticed the other day that they are developing. They are sores caused by Habronema worm. The larvae are transfered to the horse from flies, so can appear in any moist areas. They started on my horse as paler skin and then can grow as large as the ones you pictured, often unnoticed unless you "unfold" the lip. I worm with ivermectin or moxidectin. It has also helped to put a little ivermectin on topically to the sore.
YO maintains than they are grass sores from grazing short grass but I disagree as sores on side of mouth (not on the cutting edge ;) ). the sores are quite big, so will take time to heal, but worm with ivermectin and topically cover daily and they will reduce.
 
A little pony of mine had something like that. It turned out he had eaten a bit of grass that had been sprayed with weedkiller and it had burnt his skin.
 
happy_talk said:
my mare gets these every year and I noticed the other day that they are developing. They are sores caused by Habronema worm. The larvae are transfered to the horse from flies, so can appear in any moist areas. They started on my horse as paler skin and then can grow as large as the ones you pictured, often unnoticed unless you "unfold" the lip. I worm with ivermectin or moxidectin. It has also helped to put a little ivermectin on topically to the sore.
YO maintains than they are grass sores from grazing short grass but I disagree as sores on side of mouth (not on the cutting edge ;) ). the sores are quite big, so will take time to heal, but worm with ivermectin and topically cover daily and they will reduce.
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She was wormed yesterday with Equest pramox which has Moxidectrin in it, I have put sudocreme on them today just to act as a barrier.

She is out with 2 other horses who dont have any signs of these sores so its nothing contagious (sp?) !! Where can I get a suitable topical cream from? Thanks for replying!
 
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My friend's horse developed a small lump which was barely noticeable but it grew until all the hair disappeared & it was really sore.

When she got him 2 months before, she wormed him immediately & the droppings had lots of bots in it (it looked disgusting). Until reading this thread, it never occurred to me that it may be connected to the bots.

She had the vet look at it as we were worried it could be a sarcoid, he felt it wasn't but said to take pictures of it & monitor it. As it was it was too small to band anyway & even if it were a sarcoid he wouldn't be happy using liverpool cream in that position.

It grew slightly more almost to a head, then burst and has now completely disappeared :)
 
nic85 said:
Well my yearling came in this afternoon and whilst I was brushing her she yawned in my face and I spotted these....

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So what are they? Friend and I can only think of Bots....any other ideas??
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My horse has had these two years in a row now, my vet laughed at me...well almost when i said i'd read about bots in a vetinary book....he told me not to read too many books!!!!...and said it couldn't be cos my horses sores were too symmetrical! however this year he only has them on one side and two others in the field have them, they are very new to the yard. I'm starting to think they could be related to buttercups.
 
Most of the geldings in the same field used to come in with these especially at the start of hot weather - we also put it down to a plant or something that they were eating. Nothing to do with bots or worms!
 
My first ever post on HHO was asking about the exact same thing which appeared on my loan horse. :)

I never did find out what they were but I treated with wormer in any case and they did go away after about a month.
 
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