HELP!! What is this?!

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I noticed on Sunday Mrs Spaniel had a little scrape on her belly, it hadn't broken the skin and didn't seem to be affecting her so I gave it a wipe and then left it.

I have just noticed this!

What is it?! Is it a bruise that's developed somehow? Is it a reaction to something? I am considering phoning up and making a vet appointment for tomorrow but am I fretting over nothing?

She is moving fine, its definitely not blood as I can't wipe it away, if her attention is drawn to it then she will noticeably lick it but seems unconcerned by it otherwise. She is running about as normal eager for walks and games etc and eating normally.

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Possibly? We've been adventuring in the woods lately which is all overgrown so she may have got stuck while fetching her ball.
 
Yeah I think vets it is just to be on the safe side.

I was wondering about getting some nappy rash cream or something like that from asda to try and soothe the skin a little and see what its like in the morning? I have to wait until then anyway to get the vet out
 
Karran said:
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I was wondering about getting some nappy rash cream or something like that from asda to try and soothe the skin a little and see what its like in the morning? ……..
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I'd probably leave it and see how she is tomorrow or even the day after. Never thought about nappy rash cream, but it could be an idea, or any ointment for that matter which helps with inflamed skin. Camarosa, Sudacream, the list is near endless. One thing's for certain, if it doesn't bother her, then it shouldn't you, …. yet. Keep an eye on it is what I'd do.

That looks like a nasty bruise on your thumbnail, btw! Just as you, the wee girl will mend.

Alec.
 
This is quite severe bruising. Have seen some bruising after some long and intrusive surgeries, difficult catheter placements etc. But also things like ruptured spleens, liver disease etc. But your dog would be quite unwell if this was the case!

If it was a light scrape that has caused this, I would be asking about getting her clotting times tested. Vet trip needed definitely. We use arnica cream for bruising, but if she is a licker might be best to wait until you see the vet.

ETA: As PucciNPoni asked, it does look like bruising in the photo, but do you think it is more irritant and rash like?
 
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PucciNPoni said:
I seem to recall reading somewhere that bruising in dogs is never a normal thing to see - thought it can have to do with liver issues. Anyway, did a quick google and came up with this

http://www.pethealthnetwork.com/dog-health/dog-diseases-conditions-a-z/bruising-dogs-ecchymosis


It looks like bruising from the photo, but do you think it's more rash like?
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Yes I saw that and panicked too! I initially thought bruising but now my initial panic is over I'm wondering if she had got herself stuck in the bushes at the weekend and its a reaction to being in nettles or something.

Alec Swan said:
I'd probably leave it and see how she is tomorrow or even the day after. Never thought about nappy rash cream, but it could be an idea, or any ointment for that matter which helps with inflamed skin. Camarosa, Sudacream, the list is near endless. One thing's for certain, if it doesn't bother her, then it shouldn't you, …. yet. Keep an eye on it is what I'd do.

That looks like a nasty bruise on your thumbnail, btw! Just as you, the wee girl will mend.

Alec.
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I have coated her belly in sudacream and she is ignoring it and playing with her toys, I will coat her again in the morning and see what she is like in the evening I think, I am off all day Friday so I can make an appointment for then if I think it has got worse.

yes my poor thumbnail! Me and hammers do not mix!


she does seem 100% in herself and is only noticeably licking it when I draw her attention to it - drama queen!
 
It is bruising I think -my greyhounds get it a LOT when they chase deer etc, they have had some spectacular reactions but they never seem to find it very painful? Fingers crossed she recovers quickly, I never bother putting anything on my lot when they get injured as inevitably they spend their time licking off the Sudocrem and drawing attention to an area which they were previously ignoring
 
If I knew how she had done it I wouldn't mind so much, its just not knowing that's worrying me.
She is a drama queen so would have screamed the place down if she'd gotten hurt, she isn't licking her lips when I touch it which is her normal reaction to being a bit sore. It's not hot to the touch. She is licking noticeably but not obsessively. Now that I've calmed down from my initial panic of last night I don't think its anything life-threatening but I'd like to know what it is for peace of mind!
I am supposed to be going up to Peterborough tomorrow afternoon for a Flyball competition on Saturday, not sure now if to carry on with the plan and will see what Vet says before making any decisions.
 
I would definitely do a vet visit...the last time I saw bruising like this was when my son was fifteen and suddenly showed bruising from the ankles up to his knees...we went to the er( we were in USA at the time) and they referred us instantly to a specialist..
It was diagnosed as henoch schonlein purpura.
This is an auto immune illness....
I'm no saying your dog has this,but it's definitely unusual,not typical of a trauma and should most definitely be seen by a vet.
 
You need to see a vet....

Looking at this new pic I would say he's got some trauma at the black spot area...is there something embedded( a thorn etc?)
Clean the area with a disinfectant wash,hot flannel...run your finger over the black spot...can you feel anything embedded?
If it's a thorn,remove with tweezers...
If all this fails,..definitely see a vet..
 
I'm at work now so can't have a feel/play.
Def booking her in to see what the vet says. Hopefully I can get her in this evening.
I was hoping that it wouldn't look as bad in the morning with some cream to soothe the area, couldn't really tell this morning but from this photo its a lot worse. So vets it is!
 
Before you go...do the hot wash and feel,then tweezer any embedded thorn etc...
It may save you a big bill if she's run into a spiked bush...
If so,continue to disinfect area to prevent any further infection.

But if you find nothingextermal....then vet it is...good luck and hope it's a simple fix.
 
Thank you. She is a clumsy oaf so it wouldn't surprise me if she had run into something without thinking first.
I will have a hot wash but keep her booked in. If only she could just tell me what she's done!!!
 
It would be a very strange pace for an injury, in my view. It's also my view that the darkening patch would be a worry and in your shoes, it would be off the the vet, sharpish! It may well be nothing to worry about, but seeing your last pic, it would be grounds for concern.

Let us know the outcome, please!

Alec.

ETS. now comparing the two pics, and even though the dark patch 'appears' to have become more concentrated, the general area of inflammation 'seems' to have reduced in size. Just a thought, have you picked a tick from the area in the last few days?
 
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It looks like bruising. I certainly wouldn't be doing a competition sport with this dog until the vet has examined.
 
Alec Swan said:
It would be a very strange pace for an injury, in my view. It's also my view that the darkening patch would be a worry and in your shoes, it would be off the the vet, sharpish! It may well be nothing to worry about, but seeing your last pic, it would be grounds for concern.

Let us know the outcome, please!

Alec.

ETS. now comparing the two pics, and even though the dark patch 'appears' to have become more concentrated, the general area of inflammation 'seems' to have reduced in size. Just a thought, have you picked a tick from the area in the last few days?
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No, no ticks, she had a flea outbreak last month so have been super vigilant for things like that so would have noticed - I hope! I wasn't sure if the red has gone down, I coated her in sudocream last night, again this morning and my brother did it about 11 before he went to work so hoping that's helping

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It looks like bruising. I certainly wouldn't be doing a competition sport with this dog until the vet has examined.
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Nooo! If vet says not fit, then we don't go! There's always other comps!
 
Phew - just super bad bruising.
Vet said she'd not seen it so bad without some kind of major trauma.
No idea what caused it. But she's been given a full check over and i'm to monitor her gums for pinpricks as that's a sign of clotting problems apparently.
Been given the all clear for saturday although if she looks unhappy i will pull her of course! There are 5 dogs down to race in a ream of 4 so no pressure to run all the races.
If i see pinpricks or it doesnt clear in a week then she's to go back but she's happily barking at next doors cat now so i think she's fine!! :-)

Thanks for the thoughts and wellwishes!
 
It's awful! I have never seen one so bad! Never seen a dog bruise like that before!
So, so glad that there's nothing to worry about!
 
So relieved you have seen the vet and all is well - when we discovered bruising like this on my boy it was followed by him nearly losing his leg to necrotising fasciitis triggered by a tiny cat scratch, the bruising was a result of the underlying skin infection. (We couldn't see the bruising until he went lame, we assumed it was his shoulder and anaesthetised to x-ray and then the vet saw it, no way to examine him before that due to the extreme pain).
Good luck for Saturday and I sincerely hope he continues to have no problems and competes well for you :)
 
Did the vet run any diagnostics?

Thats an abnormal amount of brusing to be seen without any trauma...in fact thats worse bruising then we would usually see on a dog with trauma!.....and bruising is usually painful...
Id be a bit worried about her clotting times if she hasnt always bruised like a peach...I dont want to worry you but sometimes dogs can be tough even when they have serious underlying issues...
The last dog I seen with unexplained brusing like that had eaten rat bait the week or so before and wasnt able to clot normally...bar and very happy otherwise.
 
She had a good feel of the area and checked her gums, eyes, and ears. She did listen to her heart on both sides and checked her pulse on both legs and breathing rate. Can't recall now if she did more than that.
Could/should she have done more? She offered to take bloods but told me it wasn't necessary.
I've only seen minimal (hardly visible) bruising on her before when she got spayed but i guess other bruising would/could be hidden by hair in other places?
I'm off today so we're having a lazy day to rest her and will keep an eye out for the pinpricks she mentioned.
 
My view would be if you get to pinpricks your seriously worried. I'm surprised the vet didn't advise bloods for a young healthy dog with no history of significant trauma - you can do bloods to check the clotting times and make sure all is ok and for my peace of mind I would...
 
Karran said:
I noticed on Sunday Mrs Spaniel had a little scrape on her belly, it hadn't broken the skin and didn't seem to be affecting her so I gave it a wipe and then left it.

I have just noticed this!

What is it?! Is it a bruise that's developed somehow? Is it a reaction to something? I am considering phoning up and making a vet appointment for tomorrow but am I fretting over nothing?

She is moving fine, its definitely not blood as I can't wipe it away, if her attention is drawn to it then she will noticeably lick it but seems unconcerned by it otherwise. She is running about as normal eager for walks and games etc and eating normally.

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What did the bruising end up being?? My pup has a similar bruise and the vet can’t figure it out.
 
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