Help with blue spray

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Any one know where I can by cyclo spray (blue spray) with out prescription?
My lad is forever getting cuts on his legs and smelly feet and the vet always gives us it but I am sick to death of paying vet call out fee and then the vet price!!
Had a quick google but on the phone so only one I found wanted be to send them my prescription
 
I think the proper stuff is prescription only because it is antibiotic as well as antiseptic, so it is restricted to avoid resistance.

If the vet has recently seen your horse they may not need to actually visit, you could possibly just pay for them to send you a prescription by post, and then you can get it online.

Alternatively there is a "similar" spray for sheep's feet, which is not as good but can be bought online, for sheep.



Edited to add - Oooh, what a lot of replies in a short time!!!
 
Hmmm, not sure, our saddler sells it for sheep. I would have a look online, but you have to have sheep (if you now what I mean ;-) )

Edited to add - I think it is even marketed as Blue foot rot spray for sheep :-)
 
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We have a purple spray called Septi-Cleanse antiseptic spray. You can get it at agricultural suppliers, no prescription needed. We always have some on hand as we use it for cattle. I'm sure it's virtually the same as the blue spray.
 
Woolly Hat n Wellies said:
We have a purple spray called Septi-Cleanse antiseptic spray. You can get it at agricultural suppliers, no prescription needed. We always have some on hand as we use it for cattle. I'm sure it's virtually the same as the blue spray.
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It's not the same, it will do nothing to an infection.
OP, since the vet has used it on your horses feet ring and ask if they will prescribe some more.
 
I have used Carrs Billington footcare spray in the past - to treat hoof infections in horses and sheep.
I would need to check the can but I think It contains Chlorhexidene(?) it's purple and about £6 for a big can .
What is the active ingredient(s) in the blue spray you get from the vet?
 
Gift Horse said:
I have used Carrs Billington footcare spray in the past - to treat hoof infections in horses and sheep.
I would need to check the can but I think It contains Chlorhexidene(?) it's purple and about £6 for a big can .
What is the active ingredient(s) in the blue spray you get from the vet?
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Thats a lot more than we pay for the real stuff via our online supplier.

The active is oxytetracycline which is an AB.
 
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I don't think Oxytetracycline is any more 'Real' than Chlorhexidene, some bacteria are resistant to Oxytetracycline as they are to other ABs
I am neither vet or pharmacist and it is a few years since I used either of these, clearly I'm not a savvy shopper either :-)
 
Gift Horse said:
I don't think Oxytetracycline is any more 'Real' than Chlorhexidene, some bacteria are resistant to Oxytetracycline as they are to other ABs
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As a matter of interest, are the resistance issues around oral and IV antibiotics also relevant to topical preparations like this one? Does anyone here know?

ETA: Okay, I did a quick Google search and according to http://www.rnzcgp.org.nz/assets/doc.../NZFP-OCT2000-Moodabe-Topical-antibiotics.pdf:

Quote:
* Bacterial resistance to topical antibiotics is illustrated by increasing rates of mupirocin resistant S. aureus
* In Australia, mupirocin resistance was lowered by changing it from OTC to prescription only status
* The public need to be educated re the use of topical antibiotics for wound management
* Before using a topical antibiotic consider whether a topical antiseptic such as povidine iodine may be adequate

So it does look like it's a potential issue.
 
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Gift Horse said:
I don't think Oxytetracycline is any more 'Real' than Chlorhexidene, some bacteria are resistant to Oxytetracycline as they are to other ABs
I am neither vet or pharmacist and it is a few years since I used either of these, clearly I'm not a savvy shopper either :-)
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Oxytetracycline is an AB and chlorhexadine is not hence the reason one needs a script and the other does not. Up until it was made POM-v it was prety standard to use an oxytet spray for all foot rot in sheep and cuts etc on all stock including horses!
 
MotherOfChickens said:
me too. you don't need a'biotic sprays for minor cuts and grazes either.
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with out coming across rude or blunt here
he doesn't have smelly feet all year round!
he only gets them in winter when the fields are wet for a long period of time
and i am not keeping him in for 3 weeks straight just because i am worried about smelly feet
and the spray was more for cuts since he has a habit of damaging him self and not in a minor way!
this is the horse who was fulled booted (over reach,tendon and brushing boots) and wile stood in the car park still managed cut him self resulting in a few stitches..
he is a normal horse to enjoys a good play in the field how ever he just doesn't no where those things called hooves are !

thank you every one for the ideas on spray, i have been lucky enough that the vet was out on our yard this morning doing yearly injection sand has given me a new can
(will be hiding this one in the tack locker!!!)
 
Job done then - good luck with the hiding :-)
Popsdosh - I realise that Chlorhexidene is not an antibiotic but it is antibacterial. I'm reluctant to use antibiotic anything unless directed and necessary. I worded my first reply badly - prevent rather than treat would have been better.
I suppose my point was for a quick spray on a minor cut maybe all you need is an antibacterial spray not an antibiotic one.
 
Gift Horse said:
I suppose my point was for a quick spray on a minor cut maybe all you need is an antibacterial spray not an antibiotic one.
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Or even just something to clean the wound and allow or encourage the natural healing process to occur. In that regard, I've had really good results with Dermisol multicleanse solution.

I think thrush in feet needs a different approach. In my experience, a 3% formalin solution works well because it tends to "dry up"/harden the frog as well as killing the germs. Although it's pretty nasty stuff, it is used with sheep. You don't want to get it on your or your horse's skin.
 
thanks guys :)

i think i will look in to both produces for feet and little cuts

the spray is really for when he does bad ones and the one he currently has ! its on his hind leg above the cornet band was healing nicely.. then another horse jumped the fence in to our field and they played lots of silly ******* (both enjoyed them self and we are thinking of them going together permanently) but he did how ever reopen said large wound and with the flies coming i am a little worried !
 
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