Help with finding draft x TB breeders ?

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Can anyone point me in the direction of breeders of shire x tb's?

(or cyldesdale/percheron/anything similar stamp!)


Not really finding anything online as quite specfic requirements;

(after a baby either just weaned to yearling, has to be a colt/gelding and to mature BIG 17hh +++++!)

Cheers
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Brendon Hill Stud on Exmoor used to put their TB stallions on their own Shire mares very successfully and often have youngstock for sale. They have a good website with contact details.
 
Hi, I have a Shire x anglo european and she is fab! does everything and does it very well!
My mate has a 4 year old shire x polish warmblood gelding for sale just being backed and ridden away now. A very big lad even though maybe a bit older than you want. PM me if your interested.
 
What about RID x TB (or near TB) - do you want a tall middleweight, or a tall heavyweight? If you want a real weight-carrier, you often DON'T get them with a TB x Perch/Shire - or if you DO, it often comes at the expense of a short upside down neck!

This chap is 3 - 17hh already and a GOOD middleweight.

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I've got a colt foal and a yearling gelding who are full brothers to him and look like ending up similar size (sire is a 17hh HW RID - dam is a 16.3 TBxirish mare.

OR - if you want more of a weight carrier - what about a big RID?

I've got a colt foal and a yearling who'll end up this size (17.1 at 4, over 10" of bone)

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Thanks guys - will have a look at brendon hill

claracluck, Thanks but a bit to old - my current one's still enjoying regular work, planning on the new one being ready for backing when he's looking for a easier life
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JanetGeorge - i missed your post -stunning horses

I have to take the weight carrying ability into account (i'm 6ft and 14.5 stone) but i love the look of draft x and their attitudes (well have'nt got many to compare but the one's i met anyway!)


Very interesting, thanks for posting the pics. I saw a few RID x when looking for my current lad and found they were of the stamp of the grey in your first pic (finer) - I went for the shire x as he had a bit more substance but still with the more athectic (SP) stamp compared to the pure draft breeds (not had the issue with the neck but the usual cow hocks/dishing)

However the grey in the bottom pic is the stamp i like - at the risk of making a idiot of myself (i know little about the breed)is he a cross as well - he looks heavier than the first!

I love big horses and feel comfortable on something the size of my lad (18.2hh shirextb) 17hh is really the minimum. I understand that the matured height can't be set in stone but wanted the chance of something hitting this height at least- with the chance of a couple more inches if i'm lucky!

mm food for thought, the bottom grey IS lovely...
 
Boogles - can you post/PM me details?

I ruled ID's out thinking they were too chunky as a pure breed/fine as a cross- but having had a look on google i did'nt have a clue!! i think the pure breed is prehaps something i'll be interested in

thanks
 
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What about RID x TB (or near TB) - do you want a tall middleweight, or a tall heavyweight? If you want a real weight-carrier, you often DON'T get them with a TB x Perch/Shire - or if you DO, it often comes at the expense of a short upside down neck!

This chap is 3 - 17hh already and a GOOD middleweight.

Charlie-trot-3.jpg


I've got a colt foal and a yearling gelding who are full brothers to him and look like ending up similar size (sire is a 17hh HW RID - dam is a 16.3 TBxirish mare.

OR - if you want more of a weight carrier - what about a big RID?

I've got a colt foal and a yearling who'll end up this size (17.1 at 4, over 10" of bone)

Rambo-June.jpg


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Think I have fallen in love!!! your 3 year old is stunning
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Very interesting, thanks for posting the pics. I saw a few RID x when looking for my current lad and found they were of the stamp of the grey in your first pic (finer) - I went for the shire x as he had a bit more substance but still with the more athectic (SP) stamp compared to the pure draft breeds (not had the issue with the neck but the usual cow hocks/dishing)

However the grey in the bottom pic is the stamp i like - at the risk of making a idiot of myself (i know little about the breed)is he a cross as well - he looks heavier than the first!



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The 2nd chap (called Rambo!) is pure-bred - out of a very chunky 15.2 RID mare.

Sadly, there HAS been a loss of bone in the Irish Draught - mainly in Ireland as they have chased 'performance' to the detriment of type! Most UK breeders are still trying to breed the more 'traditional' type! My stallion is a true, old-fashioned ID - sometimes associated with clunky, stuffy movement - but not in his case - and ALL his foals move better than their dams!

This is my stallion:
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He's 17 hh but with so much depth that he rides MUCH bigger - and with 10.5" of bone. Rambo still has a way to go to get that depth and back end - he won't be fully grown until he is about 7! But he's stunning to ride - very light on his feet, light to the leg - not one of those hulks that makes you feel you're trying to paddle the Queen Mary with a plastic tea-spoon!

I haven't got a 'proper' pic of this chap online at present - but he is by Raj out of a TBxPercheron mare.

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The very short neck came from the mare - and while he moves far better than she did, he's still what I'd call 'clunky' - although very comfortable. But he's a hell of a weight carrier - by the time he's mature (he was 3 in that pic - and already 17hh with over 10" of bone) I think he'd carry a 20 stone man hunting all day - although he wouldn't lead the field at a fast hunt!
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But you really can't beat a GOOD pure ID as a weight carrier who rides like a sport horse. Where are you located? If you're not too far from South Shropshire, why not come over and try Rambo (he's not for sale - he'll be going for stallion grading again in 2011 once he's matured.) But I do have a couple of youngsters who'll end up his size and type -= with the same movement and temperament.
 
Janet George, good to see pictures of your IDs, they are lovely!

I'm considering buying an ID to share with my husband, or maybe an IDx if it is heavy enough to carry him comfortably. You said you have a few youngsters available, how young are they? We aren't looking for a baby, something around 5 or 6 ideally.
 
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Janet George, good to see pictures of your IDs, they are lovely!

I'm considering buying an ID to share with my husband, or maybe an IDx if it is heavy enough to carry him comfortably. You said you have a few youngsters available, how young are they? We aren't looking for a baby, something around 5 or 6 ideally.

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Thanks! I'm afraid my youngsters tend to jump off the shelf once they're backed and going quietly - at rising 4. TBH, good 5-6 year old RIDs are a bit like hens' teeth - people who have them hang on tight!
 
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