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Think I just want some reassurance that it's going to get easier, had the puppy since Friday and it's exhausting. How long did it take for your current dog to get used to the puppy?
He pooed 9 times yesterday, I am going to ring the vets today, he also sees uncomfortable when he goes.
How long did it take for your puppy to sleep through the night?
Sorry lots of questions,
 
Just got an puppy two weeks ago.
He's pooing seven times a day a bit of palaver before pooing is normal for puppies .
He's slept from around eleven to six from the second night and is making no mess in this cage .
He's pretty good on the house training front as well and is now taking himself out the house to go.
I am feeding four time a day .
Puppies are hard work . I think it's worse when they are six months when they can do serious damage to things .
 
They are hard work! I got one last summer and for the first few weeks had to let her out in the garden every hour. Don't think she did that many poos though. We had to be very quick to stop any accidents. We had to keep most rooms closed and remove anything she could chew. It does gradually get easier. She slept ok in her crate from the first night. It felt like having a baby again.
 
Yours sounds good! House training is a little interesting, his breeder let them go to the toilet anywhere in the house so we are trying to teach him to go on pads and progress from there. It's still a bit hit and miss. With the added complication of our other dog, they are just learn how to get on with each other so if they are together someone has to be with them the whole time. Got me up at 4 this morning. Then again at 5 but I think that was cod he needed a poo and it's uncomfortable for him to go.
Think I'm just tired and need to know other people are going through the same thing
 
what breed and how old is the puppy?
what is the puppy being fed and is it the same as he had where you got him from?

has he been wormed and vet checked?

if you think it is uncomfortable for him to poo then a vet check is needed sooner rather than later
 
We have got a crate but I think he will go to the toilet in there if we shut him in. We leave the door open so he can go in and out to his pads. He drinks constantly too! And is always hungry.
 
He is a Siberian husky, 8 weeks. He had a really upset tummy when he came, was told it was a side effect of his jab. I spoke to the vets and they said chicken and rice, did that and it all improved. He came with the pets at home puppy feed, we have reintroduced that with the chicken and rice and since then he has been ok, no more diarrhoea but pooing a massive amount and now look like he is struggling to go. Hasn't had and chicken and rice for 48 hours. They aren't small poos. We are going to change him slowly on to another puppy food we have been suggested, and see if it improves but I will ring the vets today and see if I can get him in.
 
you need to house train the puppy he wont do it himself, he does not know what the rules are you need to teach him.

how big is the crate?
ideally it needs to be big enough for a bed and a pad to sit next to each other so if he is caught short when you are not paying attention then he still does it in the right place.

there is a cartoon on facebook (I can't seem to find it at the mo) basically it gives advice on housetraining a puppy (can be applied to any dog);

take a rolled up newspaper, place it by your side, if puppy pees or poos in the house take rolled up newspaper and bat YOURSELF around the face and shoulders with it, You were not paying attention to your puppies toileting needs.

this is true, a puppy will not learn without being taught, the more consistent and attentive you are now the quicker your puppy will learn and the more reliable your puppy will be in the future.

It does get easier-much easier
 
I found it exhausting for the first few weeks, and then it got better.

Daisy was taken out to toilet after every meal and every sleep. She'd wake in the middle of the night and get taken to the toilet (at around 2.00 or 3.00) then sleep till about 7.00. I didn't find toilet training too hard, (never used pads,) but I did watch her like a hawk. She soon learn't that the cat flap was for her too, which was handy. As I've said on here before, I basically attachment parented our pup, and it really worked.

If your pup hasn't seen the vet yet, it would be worth an appt for a quick health test.
 
He has a cage round the crate and I started off covering the floor in pads so he learn to go on them not on the floor and have reduced them. He goes to the pads when in the cage, he is really good with taking him self to them. He isn't so good when the cage is opened up so he can use the whole living room, ( it's pretty small room) but still get to the pads. I'm sure it's just a matter of time, consistency and patience, just nice to hear it gets easier.
 
Got a puppy last weekend and am so grateful to my other 2 dogs who manage to keep her occupied and suitably tired out so that I can have some peace and quiet :)

She goes in her crate at night with a puppy pad in there, and sleeps from 11 and wakes up at 6. Never poos in there but sometimes does a wee on the pad overnight. The first night we had the 2am wailing/crying thing, but ignored it/bought earplugs :) and now she is quiet as a mouse overnight.

One of my dogs loves her and plays with her all day but the other was completely blanking her! It was quite funny really he would just walk off every time she went near him and just act as if she wasn't there! He's coming round to her now, they will be best friends soon. He is our first dog, and I remember when we got the second he took all his toys upstairs out of her reach and just stared at her through the bannisters! They soon became the best of friends and have never had a single disagreement.

It's only been a few days, I'm sure he will settle soon :)
 
Wouldn't bother with pads, you just have to train them to go outside as well, so you're training them twice, bit pointless, really. As its summer, can you leave the back door open constantly? I encouraged them to use the stony area of the garden and gave huge praise when it was done right. The last pup I had took about two weeks to toilet train, ably helped by the older dogs.

What food is he on and what are you swapping to? Check the adult versus puppy versions, sometimes they're identical, puppy food is a bit of a myth/marketing ploy.
 
Please don't take this the wrong way but you do not sound like a very experienced dog owner o why did you chose a Husky? They are about the most challenging breed out there and I think you need to get some bed specific training and advice ASAP.

Toilet training can take anything from a few weeks to a few months. Ditch the pads, take him out when he wakes, after food, after play and at least once every hour.

Read up on crate training it is not a case of popping the dog in and shutting the door.

Sleeping through the night can take a while as well. Remember this is a very young pup that has just been taken away from its mother and litter mates, he will need support to make the transition to more independent sleeping.
 
I agree with CT training the pip to use pads in the house and then retraining to go completely outside for toilets seems to just add an extra step that you don't really need. In my mind you are teaching the pup to go in the house and then later will be telling pup off for using the big spacious bathroom you've provided ;)

Mums border collie was true to breed in that she learned things very fast (mum not so much ha ha!) so she was toilet trained in a few weeks.

We also did hourly trips outside, waited her out till she did her thing and then made a big happy fuss of her for being a clever girl :)
There was the occasional accident but only when we hadn't been paying enough attention and we'd missed the "i need a wee" look.
Soon she was going to the door (which had newspaper in front just in case) and huffing through the crack at the bottom of it to let us know it was toilet time - she still does it now, it's very cute :)

Mum at first made a rod for her own back when it came to getting her to sleep through the night (minus toilet brakes), pup would cry and mum would rush to comfort her :/ After a few talks I got her to stop doing it but it took a few days of ignoring her crying (pup not mum!) before she realised that sleep time meant sleep :)
 
Ditto as above, ditch the pads! It is only going to take longer and confuse the pup.

Take her out frequently, every 20 mins if you have to. Whenever she is not fully supervised pop her in the crate with the door shut (make sure she has something to do or is asleep so it's a positive experience) The crate should be small enough so she won't want to toilet in there.t

My older dog went out twice a night the first week, once the second week and then slept through, current pup is 13 weeks and went out at 1am for 2 night and then went to 4am and now we can get him to last till 6-7am. Crate door shut.
 
We already have a 5 year old husky, but my partner had him before we met so I haven't done the puppy stage before. Thanks for all the advise
 
Just wanted to say we took him to the vets today, couldn't find anything wrong, so that's a releif. Got some food to give him for 3 days to see if things improve.
I have read lots of books and watch videos on line, have already but nothing prepares you. We are just finding our feet with a new dog and making sure our other dog doesn't feel pushed out. We are working on finding a routine that works for both of them. I just needed to hear it gets better, after a bad night. Today has been much better and hopefully finding our way
 
Re crating: we fed the last pup in there and he always had toys in there, so it was always a positive place. We took him everywhere, also in the crate, so he frequently fell asleep in it. Once in it at night, that was it, but it was always as we were going to bed very late then up once in the night for the first week or so. The crate should never be used as a punishment, but could be used for making the pup rest if they're too manic. I just cuddled, tbh and he generally fell asleep.

Swap food slowly to limit tummy upsets and if he has diarreoah/upset tum and it persists, look up giardia. Even a change of water can upset a very young pup.
 
alex_mac30 said:
Just wanted to say we took him to the vets today, couldn't find anything wrong, so that's a releif. Got some food to give him for 3 days to see if things improve.
I have read lots of books and watch videos on line, have already but nothing prepares you. We are just finding our feet with a new dog and making sure our other dog doesn't feel pushed out. We are working on finding a routine that works for both of them. I just needed to hear it gets better, after a bad night. Today has been much better and hopefully finding our way
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It does get better, honest :)

Having said that, I haven't had a puppy for over 10 years now because I can't be doing with the hassle - rescues all the way for me, they are so much easier :D :D
 
You sound as if you are doing all the right things! (except perhaps the pads, didn't find that they were helpful at all, my two just shredded them in 30 seconds) I had forgotten what hard work pups are having acquired two at the same time. It does get better and its natural to feel a bit anxious especially when it can be very tiring to start with!
 
I have never used pads I just take them outside from the day they arrive I am in and out at least every hour when he's awake .
If I go out he's in the crate .
He's adorable asleep beside me ATM the puppy stage is so special you don't get to experiance very often so enjoy it .
I am always conflicted part of me wishes they can stay small and part is excited to see the adult dog .
It's ten years since I had a puppy I had forgotten how wonderful it is .
 
I am really enjoying him, our other dog seems to have settled to him a bit, which is really nice to see and gives me hope that we haven't upset his world to much and we have given him the best friend we hoped for. I am trying to take him out, which is working, unfortunately I have to work so from next week he will have to go 4 and a half hours between someone coming home so the mats seem a good solution till he can hold it for that long. Not ideal but that's life. He seem much better on the new food from the vet. 9 poos in one day is a bit much, especially as he would do a big one in the garden and you would think it was safe to bring him in and the 10 mins later he is pooing again. It's never nice to know an animal isn't a 100%
 
My pup is same age and can be left home in the crate with the door shut for 4 hours (this is tops and only happening once a week) ok and has been a couple of weeks.

I really would shut that door otherwise he could chew or eat something he shouldn't.
 
What do you do over night, leave him in the crate and get up ever few hours? I thought that they should only be left for one hour per month, so a 8 week pup should be a maximum of 2 hours?
 
alex_mac30 said:
What do you do over night, leave him in the crate and get up ever few hours? I thought that they should only be left for one hour per month, so a 8 week pup should be a maximum of 2 hours?
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Yes I crate and get up if he wakes .
I have the crate in the bedroom that where the dogs sleep ( hangs head in shame )
He's now sleeping at least eleven to six sometimes longer .
The first week and bit I was getting up twice then once now he's sleeping through .
I leave mine in the crate when it suits me two and bit hours this morning while I rode and from three to seven this afternoon .
He's always asleep when I get back and has only once messed in the crate .
 
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i cant comment on toilet training a puppy, i got a 2 yo rescue who is nearly 4. only thing i had to do was train him to go in our garden! he was happy to go on walks and other gardens but not his own- saw as extension of house. so if he went on walks i went 'wee wee', really clear and then praise to teach him what i wanted when i then said it in the garden.

diet wise- some dogs actually have issues with chicken and rice, so not always the hypoallergenic option it looks like. my german shepherd has raw as nothing else fully agrees with him
 
alex_mac30 said:
…….. . Got some food to give him for 3 days to see if things improve.

I have read lots of books and watch videos on line, have already but nothing prepares you. ……...

We are working on finding a routine that works for both of them. ……..
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A few points for you, if you'll accept them;

Generally, dogs really don't benefit from constant changes of diet, especially puppies. Puppies which pass solid stools will find that being clean, which with most is a natural instinct, is easier. Constantly changing a dog's diet will all so often make them 'loose'. Just as with humans, hanging on when we have the squits isn't easy. The 'complete' high protein feeds often upset more tummies than they settle.

Generally, you will learn nothing from books and videos. Nothing prepares you quite like experience.

Routine, a good word and it's VITAL! I've lost count of the puppies which I've kept indoors, and without exception, I've followed the same routine. ……..

Generally, what I do is I make the last loo-break for them before I go to bed and it's usually around midnight. After the first day they will learn where the exit door is, so I place newspaper on the floor, around the door, and depart for bed. If I hear them whining in the night then I'll go down to them. If I don't, then early 5-6ish, I'll go down, ignore them and open the door, and they're generally pleased to be let out! I've yet to have a puppy which has been a problem, they all seem to learn very quickly and the current house living dog has never emptied himself in the house.

It's a rather contentious issue on here(!), but many youngsters don't like being ket in cages, and the unhappy puppy is more likely to have a loose tum than one that's settled and happy.

As you already have a Husky, you'll be prepared for them, but as Booboos says, they may not be the ideal choice for any but the experienced. If I didn't have a job for one, I certainly wouldn't keep one as a pet.

Alec.
 
Sorry I thought your pup was a few weeks older, no he shouldn't be left home alone for 4 hours yet. It needs to be built up gradually, starting ASAP.

At night you take them out as late as possible then pop them in and shut the door. If they wake needing to go out, carry them out, no fuss, then pop then straight back in and shut the door. No cuddles/talking etc. We popped the crate in our room for the first few nights so he knew that he wasn't abandoned but also that night time is for sleeping.
 
It's going much better now, got into a routine and all toileting outside. We have successfully left him 2 hours alone, we have made sure that he is tired when we go out so that he sleeps. Went from 11 to 5.30 this morning :) hopefully found someone to pop in and let him out after 2 hours next week. Thanks for all the help.
Yes we have a husky and understand their high energy. Our current one goes out on the bike and we have a scooter that we are training him to pull (only do this in the winter due to temperature) so once the pup is a year old and physically mature enough he will start this too. Until then it's lots of walks (once old enough and slowly build up the distance) and playing in the garden.
 
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