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No - you are wrong. I am not trying to rub your face in it as you say, by being a novice horse owner.

I'm just telling it straight - which I think you probably appreciate really.

The horse is lame, you don't know why, you don't have much experience - logic dictates that you would call in an expert. Who in this case is the vet.

I'm not a tell you what you want to hear kind of person, like some posters. Sorry.

But for what it's worth. I think you are doing a fabulous job with your mare. But if someone says they think you should get the vet, don't take offence. You can't be like that when you own an animal.

You care very much for the mare, so I know you will do what is right for her.
 
thats fine but please don't get all hysterical when people make suggestions about it then...i don't think people do like 'rubbing' your face in it at all...exactly the opposite- i think you get a lot of great advice
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i think people get frustrated because its kind of predictable what the next post is going to be...
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Jordan, please understand this isn't meant to be rubbing your face in it in any way. I think you're going to make a fantastic horse owner and horseman BUT, as you say, you are a novice at the moment. I don't know if you have books on the subject, but whether you have or not a fabulous first reference book is the "Pony Club Manual of Horsemanship". It gives good advice and instruction on all aspects of horseownership and riding and will help you to know more of what you need - including when to call the vet.

Get a copy and treat it as your Bible, it will give you more confidence and take away some of the sleepless night aspect of horse ownership.

Best wishes and I hope that the vet can give you some reassurance that Daphi will be fine.
 
jemima i know everything i know so far from books i guess. I was a very doting horse fan as a teenager. everything i know so far. which, is actually moe than i give myself credit for sometimes was taught to me by me. from a book.

Obviously that doesnt mean im experianced. hence why i joined here and i DO GET ALOT of good advice.


Im worried sick. sometimes i think people like it when a person is weak and vunerable. its easy to take the piss out of them.


sorry if ive offended anyone. Im just worried about my horse. im sure youd feel the same.


anyway vet is on the way thanks for your time anyways.
 
p.s jemima im gonna buy that book!


had a great one when i was a kid called the complete guide to horse and pony care. forget the author , shame it was a great book and learned me alot.
 
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sometimes i think people like it when a person is weak and vunerable. its easy to take the piss out of them.

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You're making me really cross. No one is taking the piss out of you. You receive good advice on this forum and have made some great new friends. Brighteyes in particular.

If anyone posts that their horse is lame and they don't know why - the common response is 'get the vet'.

So really don't feel victimised - you, like the rest of us, are just one of the massess. If slightly drama queen esq
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anyway vet is on the way thanks for your time anyways.

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Rubbish. You ring an emergency vet and they ring back. They discuss if it is an emergency. Your horse has no obvious external injury and therefore the vet will not be coming tonight. A horse being a bit lame going down hill will not get an emergency vet out!
 
Ok dozzie errrrrrrrr Im lying. cos you live here with me. shut up please.


I was told of the cost. I said come. he IS coming. why are you accusing me of being a lair? LOL


in fact dont reply to that. Im going off line. I dont need this kinda rubbish
 
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Right, I'm off to bed now! Long day, and I've had the vet out tonight too
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Yes because vets have a life too! They dont come out on emergency callouts for non-emergencies. It has nothing to do with costs. Of course they will come out for emergencies such as colic but for lameness going downhill...Get a life.
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Ive rang an emmergancy vets called gillmore in lancs. Ive asked if he can come right out beause i obviously DONT have a clue what im doing!


So ill keep you all posted. In case her legs fall off ! best to be safe eh

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Now you're just being silly, and throwing your toys out of your pram.

This is clearly not an emergency. But she should be seen by a vet tomorrow.

If it makes you feel any better - my horse also has the vet tomorrow, becuase he is lame and I don't know why. He went lame on Monday night, had the vet Tuesday morning and will have a scan tomorrow evening.......

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Amymay you aggravated things by saying he 'threw his toys out of the pram' when he didnt. He did what everyone said and got the vet. So what if he got it tonight instead of tomorrow- his money! And he admits he doesnt know anything about lameness, so we cant blame him for wanting to do the right thing by her and getting an emergency vet.

Anyway, hope Daphi is ok Jordan.
 
Thanks helen! thank u! xxxx

let u know what the vet says ! Really worried and hope hes gonna be ok thats all i want
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speak tomrrow or later depending what time he gets here!
 
Come on guys, it's not nice to be mocked or told to stop being silly when you're really worried about something. For all we know, it could be something a bit more serious.

Hope she is ok jordan, let us know x
 
Jordan, I take it you are in your 30s, so I will say this to you once, get a grip. Phoning the vet last night was a silly thing to do - equate it to a child, if they had a sore leg, would you take them to A&E? No, you wouldn't, you would wait and if the leg was still bad you would take them to the GP the next day. For some reason I feel you are being led to believe that all lameness is dreadfully worrying and a vet MUST attend. This is not the case, it is always YOUR judgement call. Personally no, I wouldn't have the vet out for slight lameness in one leg immediately.

If you are going to call the vet out for every little thing then I hope you have a very, very large bank balance
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This is not the case, it is always YOUR judgement call. Personally no, I wouldn't have the vet out for slight lameness in one leg immediately

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How many years have you been involved in horses Weezy compared to Jordan's two mins???? Hence why he should have the vet this morning.
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anyway on walking her down the drive way i noticed she is limping quite bad on her front leg(left)
i havent ridden or worked her the past day or two and shes just been out in the field.

does this mea she is lame now? or is that different? Im not sure what im supposed to do now? she doesnt seem to be in pain she just seems to limp when walking. poor daphi
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I don't think people are trying to rub your nose in it at all, you have had a great deal of good advice from many people kind enough to take the time to reply to your posts on many occassions on here- people just understandably worry about you and your horse when you say things like the above which reveal concerning levels of inexperience without any real help at hand.

If you genuinely have such little idea of equine first aid, and are determined not to seek the support of a livery yard or similar I suggest you enrol in a BHS first aid course to bring yourself up to speed quickly and seek the advice of your vet if you have cause for concern in the meantime. Internet forums are great places to get all kinds of advice and support but they are not the place to seek help for acute injuries and illnesses- your vet is.

Hope Daphi is looking better this morning, fingers crossed it is something simple- perhaps her mud fever is making her feel sore? Good luck.
 
Jordan Ross - you must be very touchy. I dread to think what the replies would have been if you had been a woman. You have had a lot of support and tolerance here. Seriously if you had been a woman I think you would have been lynched by now.
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I have read your saga with interest - as I am not a horsey person - but have horses for my children. I bought my first pony almost blind - as I had no idea what to look for and my girls were 13 and 14 and a bit young to be relied on. We started at a livery yard - which wasn't a fantastic place but there was a lot of support around. We now rent a private yard with a friend but the yard owner lives on site and is helpful and the friend is quite horsey - so I have made sure we have support around. This is what you need I believe - as everyone else has been telling you - otherwise you are going to fall from crisis to crisis as you seem to have been doing for the past week or two. I am a great believer in book learning - but believe me you wont learn how to manage a great big animal like a horse by reading - you need to learn it by watching and doing.

I wish you luck with your horse but do wish you would listen to everyone who says 'get you to a livery yard'. I am absolutely certain that your horse at least would be happier.
 
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Jordan, I am concerned that your level of knowledge of basic horse care is far too low to adequately care for your mare.

Quote: "does this mea she is lame now? or is that different? Im not sure what im supposed to do now? she doesnt seem to be in pain she just seems to limp when walking. poor daphi "

If you were a fifteen year old girl who had posted the above, I am sure you would find people on here a lot less tolerant and helpful.

Please find your horse some proper help, or sell her to someone who does know how to care for her.
I do not doubt that you have the best of intentions, but sometimes this just isn't enough.
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have to agree with those saying you need to be on a yard with people who know what they are doing, i understand your saying you cant move, but at the end of the day, you have a duty to your mare to provide her with the best possible care you can, and with you being so inexperienced i dont think you can give that to her on your own
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Oh come on people. The horse's situation is fine. All Jordan needs to do is hire experienced help when things happen outside his experience, which will be pretty often for a while! He's done this by getting the vet, so what are you worried about? Jordan, you can always phone your vets for advice and discuss health or lameness problems. If you explain the symptoms they can advise you over the phone whether they need to come immediately or whether to wait a bit.

I hope Daphi gets better soon.
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Jordanross could you do a BHS or NVQ in horse care? I know you love D and she is well cared for but with you being on your own with her it may be worth looking into.

I hope she is feeling better today & let us know what the vet says x
 
JR I know you love your horse to bits, but I tend to agree with others who say your lack of experience is disconcerting. Now, everyone has to start somewhere, we are not born with knowledge we learn it, we do not, however, learn anything by flouncing off in a fit of pique as soon as someone says something you don't like.

Reading through the threads it is almost as if you called the vet last night to spite Amymay, who, as far as I can see, did no nose rubbing, just told it like it is. Your first post was at around 6'oclock in the evening, you could have phoned your vet for advice then rather than leave it until after 11pm, that was just silly. FWIW you could have left her overnight and then called the vet first thing, I do not think you should have left it for a couple of days to monitor as you do not have the experience to know what to monitor and, if it was a puncture wound for example, could have been very dangerous.

I also think that if you were a woman you would have been hung from the nearest tree by now, especially as you get so aggressive when someone says something you don't want to hear, if you really want to learn about horses, you have to learn to listen too.

Anyway, I do hope that this is nothing serious and D is alright today, please let us know what the vet said.
 

I really hate this forum sometimes - negative and bitchy.

Jordonross is a novice doing his best and doing a very good job by the sounds of it, he gets advice and help when he needs it and doesn't act like a know it all like type you may find on say on a livery yard neglecting their horses and not listening to advice.

We were all novices at some point, and whether a horse with a novice owner is happy or not is down to to the individual attitude of the owner and jordonross has a great attitude - getting help and advice when he needs it. His horse is well looked after. For gods sake no offence but if amymay says you're doing a great job then that says everything because she'd be first to pipe up if you weren't!

Would you rather he didn't come on here out of concern and didn't call the vet, because not everyone is exactly nice to him are they? There are much worser owners out there - many of them at livery yards and I've had the pleasure of meeting a lot of them, op's situation does not jusify the amount of bloody crap posted on here.

Jordonross there are great great people with masses of knowledge on here to keep in contact with but it's horrible seeing someone so caring and concerned for their horse getting torn apart by individuals on every post (remember the responce to your first ever post?!).
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I was being neither negative nor bitchy and I don't think many people were. My observation is that Jordan seems to fall from one crisis to another - whether it is a crisis of confidence or a concern about his horse.

I stand by my statement that if he was a women there would be far less tolerance for a novice horse owner who has a horse in less than ideal circumstances. Ie; horse kept on it's own, owner with limited experience etc.


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I was and still am a novice owner - I have made certain that I have surrounded myself with knowledgeable people who can provide real life support. I wouldn't have been fair to my children or perhaps even more importantly the horses we have bought if I hadn't.

I really do wish Jordan every success - I equally wish a good life for his horse. I just believe that both would be happier in a more supportive environment.
 
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I really hate this forum sometimes - negative and bitchy.

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Where has anyone been negative & Bitchy?
JR is a novice owner on his own...Fact
D is lame...Fact
vet needed calling in the morning...Fact

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I think that is a bit unfair.

Most of the replies on this thread, and the others that I have read, have been supportive and with JRs and Daphi's best interests at heart- even if sometimes they have not perhaps always been what he wants to hear. I don't think anyone disputes for a second that JR obviously cares a great deal for his horse, but as others have said sometimes that is not enough.

Like you say, JR is obviously willing to take on board advice and act on it so I'm sure he'll do the same in this case- I feel quite strongly that as owners we all owe it to our horses to at least have a basic knowledge and understanding of simple equine first aid as in my experience they come in handy more often than we would like!
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