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Help -- this is the first time ive ever had this issue

So I have a horse who hates to be in an enclosed block of stables and next to other horses - she rears bucks and kicks the wall that is closest to the other horse I ended up moving yards due to this (and a few other reasons) , I moved to a yard where her and my pony would be together but my mare would be in a single stable which conected to a tack room then the rest of the block in an outside stable -- she was fine and only ever kicked the door (she does this for attention, as if u dont give her any she gets board and gives up) and she kicks the door when she sees my or my dads car -- this is not an issue as ive rubber mattered her door -- but all the other behaviour stopped

just befor winter my yard own made me move to the other side of the yard and put my horse and pony in the enclosed block - I did make her aware my horse would not like that and would kick off -- my mare has kicked the ajoing wall to my ponys stable so much she almost kicked it down and it is making it dangerous for her and my pony -- not to mention im having to faulk out for repairs -- my yard owner wants me to stop her kicking the wall - does anyone have any ideas --- rubber matting or covering the wall with anything is not an option as my yard owner wants nothing on the wall at all


Sorry for the long post - thats for helping
 
crazyhorsesamtia said:
Help -- this is the first time ive ever had this issue

So I have a horse who hates to be in an enclosed block of stables and next to other horses - she rears bucks and kicks the wall that is closest to the other horse I ended up moving yards due to this (and a few other reasons) , I moved to a yard where her and my pony would be together but my mare would be in a single stable which conected to a tack room then the rest of the block in an outside stable -- she was fine and only ever kicked the door (she does this for attention, as if u dont give her any she gets board and gives up) and she kicks the door when she sees my or my dads car -- this is not an issue as ive rubber mattered her door -- but all the other behaviour stopped

just befor winter my yard own made me move to the other side of the yard and put my horse and pony in the enclosed block - I did make her aware my horse would not like that and would kick off -- my mare has kicked the ajoing wall to my ponys stable so much she almost kicked it down and it is making it dangerous for her and my pony -- not to mention im having to faulk out for repairs -- my yard owner wants me to stop her kicking the wall - does anyone have any ideas --- rubber matting or covering the wall with anything is not an option as my yard owner wants nothing on the wall at all


Sorry for the long post - thats for helping
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One of my mares used to be like this and I just gave her more turnout and lots of hay in small holed double bagged nets to keep her occupied whilst she was in. I also gave her a warning growl when she did kick off and she knew I meant business and would stop straight away.She was a TB/Arab standing about 15.2hh so could give the wall a fair wallop when I wasn't aroundBut if your horse is a cob and has lots of feathers you might like to check that she doesn't have mites as this may cause her to kick.Can you not get a long rubber mat and push part of it up the wall where she does kick to minimise the amout of impact? It can't be good for her legs.
 
Why did the yo make you move knowing it would cause the problem again it just doesn't make sense can't you move back to your old stable? If you can't put anything on the walls what are you supposed to do to stop it.
 
Thanks for this she has 1/4 cob the rest is a trotter and she is 15.2 and can pack a naasty kick. so she has very little feather - which i have checked - when in my orriginal stable at the farm she stopped all the behaviour bar the door kicking -that is somethin i can live with.

i am very concerene about her legs ive had to start banaging her legs in the statble to try ptrotect them - this is what i had to do at my old farm - unfortunatly the yard owner wants nothing on or against that wall which is causeing me issuse as i was going to pad the wall out which is hat i did at my old yard and this did help - it did not stop the behaviour but helped protect the stable and her legs. its so frustrating as the kicking the wall happens when i am not there. there rearing and bucking she always gets told off but doesnt seem yo make much difference when in an enclosed stable block -- she is out from half 7 till 5/6ish -she has 3 double nets, a likit with bordom breaker a salt likit and a stable likit and her treat ball - i just dont have a clue what to do my concernce is now she had almsot pusted the wall over when just in over night - for a week she is going to be in 24/7 (arean turn out for a few hours a day) as we are getting the field fertalised for summer - i am dreading to think what she is going to do
 
becasue her friend bought another horse and so did she so she wanted them all to be together -- i told her exactly what would happen as i was on the yard 6months and the behaviour stopped alost straight away i was so happy then she made me move and the behaviour started the first night she was in her new stable - she gets very unsettled with change to begin with so i was hoping it was her just rebelling against the change but no she went straight back to old behavior that i had at the old farm
 
Pinkvboots said:
Why did the yo make you move knowing it would cause the problem again it just doesn't make sense can't you move back to your old stable? If you can't put anything on the walls what are you supposed to do to stop it.
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becasue her friend bought another horse and so did she so she wanted them all to be together -- i told her exactly what would happen as i was on the yard 6months and the behaviour stopped alost straight away i was so happy then she made me move and the behaviour started the first night she was in her new stable - she gets very unsettled with change to begin with so i was hoping it was her just rebelling against the change but no she went straight back to old behavior that i had at the old farm
 
hopscotch bandit said:
One of my mares used to be like this and I just gave her more turnout and lots of hay in small holed double bagged nets to keep her occupied whilst she was in. I also gave her a warning growl when she did kick off and she knew I meant business and would stop straight away.She was a TB/Arab standing about 15.2hh so could give the wall a fair wallop when I wasn't aroundBut if your horse is a cob and has lots of feathers you might like to check that she doesn't have mites as this may cause her to kick.Can you not get a long rubber mat and push part of it up the wall where she does kick to minimise the amout of impact? It can't be good for her legs.
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Thanks for this she has 1/4 cob the rest is a trotter and she is 15.2 and can pack a naasty kick. so she has very little feather - which i have checked - when in my orriginal stable at the farm she stopped all the behaviour bar the door kicking -that is somethin i can live with.

i am very concerene about her legs ive had to start banaging her legs in the statble to try ptrotect them - this is what i had to do at my old farm - unfortunatly the yard owner wants nothing on or against that wall which is causeing me issuse as i was going to pad the wall out which is hat i did at my old yard and this did help - it did not stop the behaviour but helped protect the stable and her legs. its so frustrating as the kicking the wall happens when i am not there. there rearing and bucking she always gets told off but doesnt seem yo make much difference when in an enclosed stable block -- she is out from half 7 till 5/6ish -she has 3 double nets, a likit with bordom breaker a salt likit and a stable likit and her treat ball - i just dont have a clue what to do my concernce is now she had almsot pusted the wall over when just in over night - for a week she is going to be in 24/7 (arean turn out for a few hours a day) as we are getting the field fertalised for summer - i am dreading to think what she is going to do
 
Either move yards or what about a calmer ? if you don't compete Lincoln valerian is good, or you could try steady up or I had great success with Stepfree from Hackup and I used to have a daily calmer from them as well, worth giving them a ring
 
NOISYGIRL said:
Either move yards or what about a calmer ? if you don't compete Lincoln valerian is good, or you could try steady up or I had great success with Stepfree from Hackup and I used to have a daily calmer from them as well, worth giving them a ring
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Thanks unfortunatly move isntan option right now as due to the biggest livery yard in the area closing stable spaces are limited -- I am looking though
 
irish_only said:
Why don't you see if you can find some covering boots. They are made from very thick felt and buckle on. This would reduce considerably the amount of shock to the joints and the noise.
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I have bandaged with gamgee and stable booted her legs -- she is causing nothing but issues at the moment and to make matters wors she is still stuck in 24-7 and is driving me and her crazy
 
Sounds like a deeply unreasonable YO to be honest. They moved a horse to a stable which they were warned might cause issues. It did cause those issues. There has been structural damage which potentially puts another animal at risk (and should there be third party injury for which the YO may well be liable.) You have been told to stop the behaviour - but no owner can stop something 24/7 unless we sleep in the stable. and you've been prevented from taking other steps to minimise damage / risk.

It may well be worth sedating her whilst she is in 24/7. And keep looking for a new yard!
 
It is not fair to keep the horse in a situation which she is telling you loud and clear she finds extremely stressful.

Forget padding the walls or her legs, she really must be moved to a suitable stable or turned out full time.

Why is she in 24/7 now? Why have you allowed this situation with her hating the stable to continue since last Autumn?
 
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ycbm said:
It is not fair to keep the horse in a situation which she is telling you loud and clear she finds extremely stressful.

Forget padding the walls or her legs, she really must be moved to a suitable stable or turned out full time.

Why is she in 24/7 now? Why have you allowed this situation with her hating the stable to continue since last Autumn?
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She is still in the yo says we are unable to turn out not even during the day apart from for 2 hours , as the fields are not ready - the 2hour turnout in the field is recent - its driving me mad my horse is reverting back to behavior ive spent the best part of 4 years working to stop its even affecting ridden work as well im at my wits end
 
Shay said:
Sounds like a deeply unreasonable YO to be honest. They moved a horse to a stable which they were warned might cause issues. It did cause those issues. There has been structural damage which potentially puts another animal at risk (and should there be third party injury for which the YO may well be liable.) You have been told to stop the behaviour - but no owner can stop something 24/7 unless we sleep in the stable. and you've been prevented from taking other steps to minimise damage / risk.

It may well be worth sedating her whilst she is in 24/7. And keep looking for a new yard!
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I am looking and its driving me mad my horse hates it and so do I , its now affecting her ridden work and tbh she is reverting back to old behavior making her unmanagable apart for people
 
crazyhorsesamtia said:
I am looking and its driving me mad my horse hates it and so do I , its now affecting her ridden work and tbh she is reverting back to old behavior making her unmanagable apart for people
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as I said in my previous post you yo is being really unreasonable it's been so dry everywhere there is no excuse for closing fields, I have looked after various horses and some just don't settle in all stables, but my advise would be even find some grazing for the summer and then you have a good few months to find a nice yard with suitable grazing, my horses are very well behaved but without turnout they could easily turn into a potential nightmare.
 
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