Here is an example of where donations go to with the RSPCA..

[Moomin1]

I appreciate you all have differing opinions and experiences, but would just like to highlight this case to show that public donations DO go to good use and that these animals (over 200 of different species) have been saved and given a chance in life. That has to be seen as a good positive thing and if one penny can make a difference, as it has in this case, then the message needs to be put out there.

http://www.winsfordguardian.co.uk/news/9723030.Cockfighting_offender_fined___50_000/

 

[zaminda]

They did a very good job here, and I'm so glad to see they threw the book at this guy as well.

 

[muffinmunsh]

They did a fab job. I love the address if the Crook though ... How fitting!

 

[AmyMay]

Great job and fantastic result.

 

[winkles]

I've only found miserable news to read so far today, this has cheered me right up

 

[Shilasdair]

I appreciate you all have differing opinions and experiences, but would just like to highlight this case to show that public donations DO go to good use and that these animals (over 200 of different species) have been saved and given a chance in life. That has to be seen as a good positive thing and if one penny can make a difference, as it has in this case, then the message needs to be put out there.

http://www.winsfordguardian.co.uk/news/9723030.Cockfighting_offender_fined___50_000/

More viral marketing for an organisation which is (rightly) viewed with suspicion on HHO.
If you have any spare cash, people, give it to World Horse Welfare, or even the BHS who both will genuinely work for horses.
The RSPCA don't know one end of a horse from the other (IME and I worked in the industry for more than 20yrs and even volunteer for another charity).
Sorry, but am sick of this manipulative viral marketing.
S

 

[Alec Swan]

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Sorry, but am sick of this manipulative viral marketing.
S

As am I. A large percentage of every pound donated is spent on paying the fund raising managers exorbitant wages. By all accounts they're worth it, as are some of our senior bankers!

Charities are big business, boys and girls, never forget that.

Alec.

 

[Miss L Toe]

In my experience crooks don't pay fines, that's one of their characteristics. The courts don't phone you up and ask if you have been paid.

 

[debsg]

Agree with Shils, I have had personal experience of the RSPCA failing to help when a case of abuse has been reported, with a dog as well as with horses. Glad they happened to be effective in this instance. Shame there are no statistics on the number of animals that get passed over ' because they have adequate water and food, there is little we can do'
WHW and BHS far more effective for horses.

 

[misterjinglejay]

Shame there are no statistics on the number of animals that get passed over ' because they have adequate water and food, there is little we can do'
WHW and BHS far more effective for horses.

Very true - they would make interesting reading!

 

[Dobiegirl]

Im not the RSPCAs biggest fan but have to admit they did a good job here, they were also more proactive at Appleby and I for one want to see this continue.

 

[EPRider]

I am another who would rather my donations went to a less political and self interested concern.

Remember that the RSPCA put down dogs after 7 days and turn down a lot of superb homes for them due to not meeting their criteria, when other charities look at each place individually before making judgement.

 

[Moomin1]

More viral marketing for an organisation which is (rightly) viewed with suspicion on HHO.
If you have any spare cash, people, give it to World Horse Welfare, or even the BHS who both will genuinely work for horses.
The RSPCA don't know one end of a horse from the other (IME and I worked in the industry for more than 20yrs and even volunteer for another charity).
Sorry, but am sick of this manipulative viral marketing.
S

Viral marketing eh?!! Ok, fair enough, I obviously am not a real person who perhaps felt very strongly about this particular case and the effort the officers put in. I have no interest in 'marketing' whatsoever thankyou, but am so glad this person has seen the right side of justice. And for the record all of these animals (yes, over 200 of them) are up for rehoming.

But you are entitled to think this job wasn't a good one.

 

[MerrySherryRider]

As far as I know WHW and the BHS do not prosecute animal abusers, they work with the RSPCA who has a legal department specifically for this purpose. This is not a new policy for the RSPCA, it was a crucial part of their organisation when it was first established nearly 200 years ago.
The RSPCA works with other charities who could not possibly afford to prosecute cases of extreme neglect. I have many criticisms of the RSPCA, as I do of many child charities, like the NSPCC and Save the Children, whose managers lose sight of the real issues concerning child welfare.
Perhaps the RSPCA should stop trying to be all things to all men and act as an umbrella organisation for smaller, specialist charities so they can focus on what they do best.

My own cob would be dead if the RSPCA hadn't saved him and prosecuted his owner successfully.
For those interested, another case coming to court this month concerns their removal of 80 animals, including 14 horses;
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/312991.html

 

[Tammytoo]

A good outcome - but it will be interesting to see whether he actually pays the ffine!

 

[Moomin1]

A good outcome - but it will be interesting to see whether he actually pays the ffine!

He has to otherwise he will be sent to prison

 

[Fenris]

He has to otherwise he will be sent to prison

Not if he appeals.

 

[Fenris]

Bit rum for the RSPCA to prosecute for lack of suitable perching when you consider the way Freedom Foods birds are kept.

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/pdf/factfiles/Highwelfare.pdf

Maybe commercially kept birds are exempt from the standards enforced on small scale bird keepers, but for an organisation that can't even meet its own standards on a regular basis to criticise and prosecute others beggars belief. The word hypocrisy comes to mind.

 

[Oberon]

If he doesn't pay the fine it is hardly the RSPCA's fault. That is for the Courts to deal with.

I donate to my local RPSCA branch.

I do so because my beloved old girl was taken in by them not once, but twice.

The second time around she was at the centre for five months.

So they don't put dogs down after a week - at least not in my local branch.

I am grateful to them every day.

 

[bumblelion]

I personally prefer to donate to hillside animal sanctuary, very proactive and really do put themselves on the line!
Pleased with the RSPCA result from this case though.

 

[rhino]

^^Agree with Oberon
This is my most recent RSPCA mutt

and she spent several weeks in kennels. Previous 2 dogs likewise.

Recent dealings I have had with the RSPCA have also been overwhelmingly positive. I may not like some of the decisions they have made, but neither do I think the slating they receive on here is fair.

 

[rhino]

I personally prefer to donate to hillside animal sanctuary, very proactive and really do put themselves on the line!

Not a penny of mine will ever go to them. They seem to think they are above the law.

 

[MileAMinute]

Not a penny of mine will ever go to them. They seem to think they are above the law.

I agree.

It's good to see some positive media from the RSPCA. I hope the guy goes bankrupt for the suffering he caused.

 

[bumblelion]

Rhino- do agree, they are known to do a lot of undercover work and yes that is breaking the law but I'd rather know what really goes on behind the scenes, eg. RSPCA freedom foods etc

 

[rhino]

Rhino- do agree, they are known to do a lot of undercover work and yes that is breaking the law but I'd rather know what really goes on behind the scenes, eg. RSPCA freedom foods etc

It's not that I have a problem with. It's the receiving stolen animals and property, and releasing Schedule 14 animals that I don't like...

 

[Moomin1]

Bit rum for the RSPCA to prosecute for lack of suitable perching when you consider the way Freedom Foods birds are kept.

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/pdf/factfiles/Highwelfare.pdf

Maybe commercially kept birds are exempt from the standards enforced on small scale bird keepers, but for an organisation that can't even meet its own standards on a regular basis to criticise and prosecute others beggars belief. The word hypocrisy comes to mind.

Small scale 'BIRD KEEPERS'?!! Ha ha!! He is a cockfighter not someone who sells half a dozen eggs to the local shop!

I hardly think the lack of suitable perching was the main issue here.

I suppose you would like to see him appeal Fenris?

 

[AMH]

Sorry, not an RSPCA fan I'm afraid - they seem to be all about maximum publicity, as far as I can see. Before Cheltenham they came the 'we have a representative on site and the course has made lots of changes and we're integral to that, blah blah blah', and then did a complete volte face when a couple of horses broke down and threw their metaphorical hands up in horror to cosy up to the Daily Mail Doom-mongers.

I also had an RSPCA representative lie to my face during the period running up to the Hunting Ban, when she told me that the RSPCA had 'found homes' for all the hounds which would be made redundant by a total ban. She didn't like it when I challenged her (very politely, I might add!) on this point and got pretty unpleasant with me.

It's a massively well-funded machine which likes to maximise its publicity.

 

[ponypilotmum]

Who pays the wages of the young female students who walk the streets at night (sometimes alone) going door to door asking for donations to the RSPCA? These students are desperate for a job and if the RSPCA can exploit them then I wonder about it's animal ethics.

Sorry moomin, you've come across as an RSPCA officer one too many times. There's supporting a charity, and then there's shoving it down people's throats.

 

[cremedemonthe]

Who pays the wages of the young female students who walk the streets at night (sometimes alone) going door to door asking for donations to the RSPCA? These students are desperate for a job and if the RSPCA can exploit them then I wonder about it's animal ethics.

Sorry moomin, you've come across as an RSPCA officer one too many times. There's supporting a charity, and then there's shoving it down people's throats.

Good points.

 

[Moomin1]

Who pays the wages of the young female students who walk the streets at night (sometimes alone) going door to door asking for donations to the RSPCA? These students are desperate for a job and if the RSPCA can exploit them then I wonder about it's animal ethics.

Sorry moomin, you've come across as an RSPCA officer one too many times. There's supporting a charity, and then there's shoving it down people's throats.

I'm not entirely sure in what way I have 'shoved it down people's throats'?!! I merely have posted a thread about a large number of animals which have been saved from a life of cruelty and neglect - and am very pleased that they can now be rehomed and live a nice life.

I doubt very much you would be saying the same if someone posted the outcome of a WHW case (not that they take cases, but if they did).

Also, if you don't like it - DON'T READ IT!

Personally I have enough interest in animal welfare to actually care more about the good outcome for these animals than any other matter. Clearly for some people that isn't a priority!