Here is an example of where donations go to with the RSPCA..

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lucky-lady said:
Who pays the wages of the young female students who walk the streets at night (sometimes alone) going door to door asking for donations to the RSPCA? These students are desperate for a job and if the RSPCA can exploit them then I wonder about it's animal ethics.
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Lots of other major charities use this approach for fund raising too, since the advent of professional marketing managers, using professional fundraising companies seems to be a very successful way of obtaining a regular income.

Examples areMacmillian Cancer Support, Shelter, Cancer Research , Barnardo's, The Red Cross etc etc.

Its not fair to single the RSPCA out for this unless you feel The Red Cross is also exploiting the jobless. Personally, I have more issue with Tesco's exploiting the jobless with internships.
 
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Something that confuses me... I dont know whether this is up to the court or the RSPCA, but is the decision of the punishment of the crime. He is banned from owning all animals for life, however, the likes of Jamie Gray are only banned from owning equines in (correct me if I'm wrong) "the worst case of animal cruelty" they had ever seen.

I cant understand such varied punishments in animal cruelty cases. I know alot will depend on facts and figures but there just seems to be too many loopholes in the system for people like this.
 
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Ibblebibble said:
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and thats where the rest of the donations go;) Shame their shelters and kennels don't look so swish:rolleyes:
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Just to point out YET AGAIN - the animal shelters are SEPERATE CHARITIES who take the RSPCA name on!

Again, I care more about the fact that hundreds of animals have been rescued here. There are a few of you who don't seem to care about that....shame.
 
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Emma86 said:
Something that confuses me... I dont know whether this is up to the court or the RSPCA, but is the decision of the punishment of the crime. He is banned from owning all animals for life, however, the likes of Jamie Gray are only banned from owning equines in (correct me if I'm wrong) "the worst case of animal cruelty" they had ever seen.

I cant understand such varied punishments in animal cruelty cases. I know alot will depend on facts and figures but there just seems to be too many loopholes in the system for people like this.
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It all comes down to the individual judge unfortunately. Some judges give very leniant sentences, others very satisfactory, and others harsh! There are sometimes other factors (bad ones) which are not in the public domain which may have resulted in this decision.
 
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He'll never cough up. How much MORE money have they wasted in prosecuting him? Eh?

Pah.
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I repeat again, he WILL be arrested and go to prison should he fail to pay.

It does make me laugh the way some people slate the RSPCA for doing nothing, then when they do something like this they get slated for doing it and spending money!! :rolleyes:

If someone like this shouldn't have been prosecuted - then who should?!!

You clearly don't understand the full horrors of what goes on in cockfighting, or the way in which the birds are kept, which is good for you - not sure anybody should have to see what met the officers in that case...
 
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Moomin1, may I ask why it is that whenever someone does not support your view of the RSPCA, you make the assanine assumption that they have no concern for animal welfare? You appear to have done this on every thread about the RSPCA, even when people have been discussing the legality of the actions of the RSPCA officials.
 
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Moomin1, may I ask why it is that whenever someone does not support your view of the RSPCA, you make the assanine assumption that they have no concern for animal welfare? You appear to have done this on every thread about the RSPCA, even when people have been discussing the legality of the actions of the RSPCA officials.
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Yes of course you can ask!! It's a free forum! ;)
 
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Moomin1 said:
Again, I care more about the fact that hundreds of animals have been rescued here. There are a few of you who don't seem to care about that....shame.
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That's because people only care if the WHW have rescued horses. If the RSPCA do it they do it wrong, or they're not worth praising coz they didn't rescue my neighbours dog because it's toenails were too long. Duh. :cool:

Oh, and I'm not an avid supporter of the RSPCA, have only had one dealing with them with a rogue chicken that was dumped opp my house on main road. But I support any charity that helps prosecute scumbags like in the OP, and I'm sick of the bashing. I'd like to see some of you try an inspector's job and successfully prosecute every owner, and rescue every owner, without encountering red tape and legal/ethical issues!
 
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I really don't understand the criticism of the RSPCA in bringing prosecutions for animal cruelty. This is one area where they excel, they are experts in gathering information and putting together a case with a high chance of a successful outcome.

Those of you who say there's no point because he won't pay the fine- shame on you. It is the responsibility of the courts to enforce the payment of fines.
Would critics of the RSPCA prefer to wring their hands instead and let these criminals avoid prosecution and continue to abuse animals ?

There are many things my taxes pay for that I consider a waste of public money, funding penthouses for wealthy MP's is one of them, but the RSPCA does a public service financed by public donations.

They do not use your money unless you choose to donate it to them and clearly, many people are happy to do so. Of course they are not perfect but neither is any other charity, but in this field its the best we've got.

Its easy to be a dissenter, harder to be constructive, I haven't seen any constructive ideas yet about how the RSPCA could better improve its fight against abuse at the root cause.

For example,horse dealers who sell broken and neglected horses; How do you help ? Buy the desperate animals and watch as the dealer makes a nice living from peoples compassion or get the RSPCA to prosecute, save the stock, shut down the business and prevent the dealer from doing business ?
 
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My sister has a friend who is a senior accountant for the RSPCA. He told her they have meetings at the Ritz. Yes, the Ritz, where they have lovely teas served to them. That is where your donations go. The head honcho's do very well for themselves.
 
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BigRed said:
My sister has a friend who is a senior accountant for the RSPCA. He told her they have meetings at the Ritz. Yes, the Ritz, where they have lovely teas served to them. That is where your donations go. The head honcho's do very well for themselves.
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To put some perspective on how charities operate and where the RSPCA comes in all this, an example is in this table of pay to chief executives of leading UK charities. The report is from 2003, but its the only one I could find and still gives an indication of who pays what. I think the RSPCA comes out quite well and some very reputable charities pay shocking salaries in relation to their generated income.
http://society.guardian.co.uk/salarysurvey/table/0,12406,1042677,00.html
 
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