Here is my 'how much'?

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I know people hate the 'how much' question, and I have a feeling my 'how much' is going to be a 'not much at all', but I thought I would ask anyway to see if I am on the right track.

ned is a 15 year old TB gelding, bay, sound, barefoot, ridden in a Dr Cooks bitless bridle, goes well in this, needs a confident rider as can be spooky and slightly nappy. Jumps, but rushes them, again needs a confident rider - I know in my heart that he would try his heart outfor someone who could reassure him and be confident. Ex-racer, gentleman on the ground. Slight and I mean, slight, liver damage but is not a problem just needs a low protein diet. Has done xc and hunted with previous owner.

I have confidence issues with him and after being kicked am seriously considering selling him - I am not optimistic about this though and just wanted to get some feedback - please be gentle!
 
okay a friend has taken a loan x-racer from a charity and had to pay £1000 for the privalege, another friend bought an x-racer from the sales for £300, a horse is only worth what someone is willing to pay!
 
I've seen your advert and if I was you I would take an offer on what you are asking as it doesn't seem that neither of you are very happy together. I hope it works out for you.
 
I amnot entirely up on prices but I'd guess around 1K. Does he hack? Would be more if a novice could ride him, and depending how much jumping he will do/will he do dressage?
 
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I've seen your advert and if I was you I would take an offer on what you are asking as it doesn't seem that either of you are very happy together. I hope it works out for you.

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I would accept offers, yes - unfortunately no-one is offering yet!
 
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I amnot entirely up on prices but I'd guess around 1K. Does he hack? Would be more if a novice could ride him, and depending how much jumping he will do/will he do dressage?

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yes, he hacks - I hack him out alone most of the time. I would say a confident novice could ride him as I would consider myself a novice and I have been riding him and getting on well in lessons and have galloped and cantered out hacking with no problems. It is purely down to the confidence issue - he is a good boy, but neither of us are machines and I think I need something that is confident in itself and my ned isn't.

as for jumping, I have popped him over a jumpa couple of times and thats it - I know he can jump, he just needs a strong confident rider to get him over - saying that, I got him over, but have since chickened out!
 
You say "gentleman on the ground" but this horse put you in hospital! I don't care that it was a freak accident, but he DID kick out at you when you were handling him and that to me does NOT equate to "gentleman on the ground" - sorry
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Also, why is he barefoot and in a bitless? If he can only be ridden in a bitless then that takes him out of contention for dressage for a start.

If you break down what you have said, I would think you are better off gifting him to someone TBH.
 
i've seen your advert.....

dont think he seriously has a lot going for him TBH.

i personally wouldnt have bought him in the first place, but now you have, and have the responsibilty of finding a suitable future home, i'd put him on horsemart for £650 ono....explaining his "quirks" and see what happens....
 
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Also, why is he barefoot and in a bitless? If he can only be ridden in a bitless


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happy-clappy IH/Parelli wannabe, methinks Weezy...

read the advert on "projecthorses"......
 
now that's not nice, barefoot is all very well although I would point out this is why IMO all bitless horses unless for a good reason should go in a bit as well as otherwise their selling value goes down.
 
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You say "gentleman on the ground" but this horse put you in hospital! I don't care that it was a freak accident, but he DID kick out at you when you were handling him and that to me does NOT equate to "gentleman on the ground" - sorry
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Also, why is he barefoot and in a bitless? If he can only be ridden in a bitless then that takes him out of contention for dressage for a start.

If you break down what you have said, I would think you are better off gifting him to someone TBH.

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er, yes, I suppose you do have a point about the kicking thing. *sigh*

he is ridden bitless cos when I first got him, he was very sensitive with his mouth - I ride very light and probably could of gotten past this, but I stumbled across bitless and decided to give it a whirl - he took to it, so I never looked back really.

Barefoot because I am a hippy I suppose. He had bad feet when I got him, but my farrier is very good and sorted his feet out. I wanted to go barefoot to for various reasons and he supported me with this, and has done ever sonce - if there ever was a moment where my farrier didn't think things were going okay I would have his shoes put straight back on.

On paper he does sound problematic, I know- however, he just lacks confidence and with me lacking it too, it makes things more hard work.

Unfortunately my husband wouldn't take too kindly to me just giving him away!
 
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Also, why is he barefoot and in a bitless? If he can only be ridden in a bitless


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happy-clappy IH/Parelli wannabe, methinks Weezy...

read the advert on "projecthorses"......

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have never done parelli and never would, can't be arsed with all that clat.

wouldn't want you to jump to conclusions or anything though.
 
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now that's not nice, barefoot is all very well although I would point out this is why IMO all bitless horses unless for a good reason should go in a bit as well as otherwise their selling value goes down.

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oh god...i'm "not being nice" again......

what would you have me say, then, eh????

that the horse is a good buy for anyone and worth loads????


for christs sake, it put the girl in hospital..................
 
Hippyned,
Why did he kick you? under what circumstances?

Dont stress I am sure someone out there will love him. I would remove the part about his bitless bridle and barefoot from the advert- this may make people think he cant be ridden in a bit or shod. You can tell them he is ridden in bitless if they call and explain why. Positves are he jumps, hacks out alone, catches, boxes i assume, any vices?
 
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looked at the advert and imo 1800 is far too much with all the negatives you have stated.

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yes, I put that originally, and am in the process of changing that figure - can blame my optimism!

a part of me wants to make this work, and another part wants to walk away. This is not easy, I know the situation I am in and it is not nice. I don't want to let him down or myself for that matter. My dream has potentially turned sour and now I just have to make the best I can out of the situation.
 
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Hippyned,
Why did he kick you? under what circumstances?

Dont stress I am sure someone out there will love him. I would remove the part about his bitless bridle and barefoot from the advert- this may make people think he cant be ridden in a bit or shod. You can tell them he is ridden in bitless if they call and explain why. Positves are he jumps, hacks out alone, catches, boxes i assume, any vices?

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he kicked me when I was taking his rug off, something got caught (as far as I can ascertain) and I was trying to sort it out but didn't sort it quick enough and he kicked out and I was stood in the wrong place. It was not out of malice, just fear. An unfortunate accident which has left me asking questions I wouldn't have been before.

No vices. He boxes with no problems, turned up at my yard without batting an eyelid. Comes to call - he is a good horse. Just a nervy TB!
 
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a part of me wants to make this work, and another part wants to walk away. This is not easy, I know the situation I am in and it is not nice. I don't want to let him down or myself for that matter. My dream has potentially turned sour and now I just have to make the best I can out of the situation.

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Your unhappy, he's unhappy and I think when he goes you will feel a huge relief. Horses are like Boyfriends you don't get your life partner at the first attempt and if you are unhappy find him a nice home and find yourself a better partner. Don't feel guilty about selling him, you aren't letting him down by doing it, just giving him and yourself the chance to find better partners.
 
Fairy snuff HN, but I agree with the above poster, I would take out the info re: bitless and barefoot as it makes it sound as though thos are his only options.

You just need to be VERY careful in how your word your info. Say you sold him as a gentleman to handle and then he kicked his new owner...Anyone could come on here and find out he has kicked you before and you could be in serious legal difficulties.
 
Hippyned, are you 100% sure you want to sell him? Perhaps you just need some help or someone more confident to ride him for a while?

I would say though I have a manic arab x TB and no matter how scared she has got she has never kicked me.
 
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Fairy snuff HN, but I agree with the above poster, I would take out the info re: bitless and barefoot as it makes it sound as though thos are his only options.

You just need to be VERY careful in how your word your info. Say you sold him as a gentleman to handle and then he kicked his new owner...Anyone could come on here and find out he has kicked you before and you could be in serious legal difficulties.

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okay, will get that sorted - I just wanted to be as honest as I could about him, and thats how I ride him - but I can see how it might be construed as negative.

man, this is really upsetting
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Hippyned, are you 100% sure you want to sell him? Perhaps you just need some help or someone more confident to ride him for a while?

I would say though I have a manic arab x TB and no matter how scared she has got she has never kicked me.

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no, I am not sure to be honest. It was an accident, and one that has well and truly left me in a quandry. One moment I feel like I can deal with this and the next I don't. Up and down like crazy and its horrible.
 
i dont want to be rude, because according to most members that is EXACTLY what i am......

can you say on open WHAT you paid for him....and why you bought him???

seriously, and please dont assume i'm being negative, what do you think you would pay for him now?


i doubt, if you are honest to yoursel;f, it'd be much over 700......
 
Feel for you, not a nice situation to have lost your confidence in your horse, and the horse will be feeling it too. If you are not feeling safe you could turn the horse away and not ride for a few weeks then see how you feel, if you dont feel confident handing him then I'd say he'd be better off with someone else as he will only get worse. Sorry about your dilema. Big hugs xx
 
Personally, i wouldnt omitt the info on him being bare foot and bitless, but i would cut it down considerably. Perhaps just something along the lines of 'currently barefoot and ridden bitless but is good to shoe and snaffled mouthed.' or whatever.

I dont think you are being misleading about him being good to handle, as you have stated in your ad he kicked you.

Mostly i think your price is way too high, with his age and his problems things really are not on your side. I don't think he is worth more than £800 max.

Good luck.
 
Poor you, I have read some of your other posts about this horse, we have had a similar probs with a young TB we got in Feb this year. She has been challenging but manageable, but the crunch came when she was naughty on the road - my daughter had a bad accident several years ago so has hacking issues so that was the last straw. We did a project horse ad and it provoked a lot of heated discussion on this forum.

Any way I didnt get a single call from it, I then advertised for three weeks in our local free adds, again not one single call, our horse is easy to handle and is going realy quite well on the flat and jumping now, she just needs someone confident to hack her out (she had hacked with previous owners with no problems).

Our girl is rising 6, a mare and hasd excellent breeding, and I had no response at £2500 ono, we would have gone down to £2000 to the right person. Anyway it seems that nothing seems to be selling at this time of year, so we decided to keep her for the winter, my daughter is happy to keep riding her - just not to hack out. We will then find somewhere to send her for some hacking and general schooling on before perhaps trying to sell her in spring, however after jumping a fab little course on Sunday and going over all out x country jumps without batting an eyelid on Sunday methinks that we maypossibly keep her!

As far as your horse goes would sending him for some schooling be an option prior to selling? or do ypu think it would unsettle him more? I think age and the slight liver issue will efffect the price, the problem is that you dont want to go too low in case you get the 'wrong' sort of person. I would suggest £1000 negotiable to the right home. I agree with not mentioning the barefoot and bitless, I would see barefoot as a bonus - but others may see it as 'this horse cant be shod'. Perhaps you could try getting him going again in a nice gentle bit like a french link snafflle, otherwise you may be excluding anyone who wants to do dressage.

I would agree that selling is probably the right thing to do, horses are supposed to be a pleasure , good luck with whatever you do.
 
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