Hi I'm new and in need of some advice! - photos

Well TBH, I wouldn't have either of your farriers a 2nd time. It does take a while to get poor feet back into shape BUT those photos show very poor shoeing, as others have said, it looks as though the foot was made to fit the shoe rather than the other way round. And if as you said the first farrier made his feet look 'boxy' you don't want that either. I would spend as much time as possible looking at as many local equines as possible, maybe at a local show, and speak to the owners of those whose feet you like the look of (making sure that you know what good feet should look like!) and ask for contact details of their farrier(s). Also pm TheFarrier for advice.
 
I hope you get some good advice from a farrier soon - Remember, no foot no horse - and as someone said - Its not the YO that will be paying the remedial bills!!!

I would be tempted to hack over to the friends yard for shoeing - call it a holiday! :)
 
My boy, when I bought him, had very similar feet ('cept with much less wall!).

Natural Balance shoeing sorted him out; gave lots of support at the heels, and set the break over point back, by placing the shoe one thumbs width from the point of the frog, and usind side clips. Normal shoes were used, not NB shoes.

I think most farriers are trained in this form of shoeing nowadays.

MJ moved so much better and was a lot happier.

If you are on full livery (or any sort of livery) you should be able to have the farrier you choose. I've never not been able to have my own shoe MJ.
 
If the YO is dealing with the farrier, then I can see why they would want to choose who they use tbh. I agree in principle that the owner chooses the vet, farrier etc. BUT if the YO is going to be the one who is there when they are working, then the decision does tend to lie with them. The other point is that there are some people I would not let through my gate and if some who had their horse on my land wanted to use them, it would be a deal breaker.
 
Oh me, the feet look to be at different angles as well - but that could just be the pic. One looks more upright than the other.

Each time my boy has had shoes they look similar to that underneath - less close to the frog. Each time I then decide thats it - shoes off if I cant find a farrier that will shoe him properly.
 
My boy, when I bought him, had very similar feet ('cept with much less wall!).

Natural Balance shoeing sorted him out; gave lots of support at the heels, and set the break over point back, by placing the shoe one thumbs width from the point of the frog, and usind side clips. Normal shoes were used, not NB shoes.

I think most farriers are trained in this form of shoeing nowadays.

MJ moved so much better and was a lot happier.

If you are on full livery (or any sort of livery) you should be able to have the farrier you choose. I've never not been able to have my own shoe MJ.

I've never heard of natural balance shoes- could you tell me a bit more info about them?

Just about to go down the yard to ask the YO again.
I don't mind getting him in and waiting with the farrier while hes shod, so hopefully there wont be a problem this time.
fingers crossed!
 
Just about to go down the yard to ask the YO again.
I don't mind getting him in and waiting with the farrier while hes shod, so hopefully there wont be a problem this time.

I'd go with the 'telling' rather than asking..........

Good luck, and let us know how you get on.
 
You're paying therefore you get to say what you want: don't be afraid to say you aren't happy with the job done-horse has zero support on the back. If the YO is funny about it, phone another farrier anyway. Your horse, your money, your decision.
 
Natural Balence shoes (NB) are forged so that they have a 'natural wear pattern' on them when first applyed to the foot. They are set back more, and with the natural wear pattern and the shorter toes they reduce the horses break over point. very helpful fo rhorses hwo trip or in early stages of navicular.

Not sure they would be any better in this situation then a well shod foot.

Lou x
 
My horse was long-toed/short heeled when I got him....

....my farrier ( remedial) has been using NB shoes on his front for years (backs are ok) and his feet are in great shape now.

As an aside....having used a selection of 'regular' farriers and now my current remedial farrier......I would advise seeking out a remedial farrier and telling your YO thats who will be shoeing your horse.

At the end of the day, if your horse ends up with feet/tendon problems because of incorrect shoeing you will be paying the bills, not her. Plus if your horse develops feet/leg issues and cannot be ridden, its you (and your horse- who is lovely BTW) that will suffer- not her.
 
Managed to catch the YO today. After a bit of disagreeing I got my way!
I've got a new farrier coming out on wednesday.
Will post new piccies of his new shoes to get your oppinions- lets hope its an improvement!
Thanks again for all your advice.
 
Managed to catch the YO today. After a bit of disagreeing I got my way!
I've got a new farrier coming out on wednesday.
Will post new piccies of his new shoes to get your oppinions- lets hope its an improvement!
Thanks again for all your advice.

I'm really pleased for you. I assume you will be there, so that you can talk through your concerns, and see what he does????
 
Good luck, hopefully it's something that can be sorted in due course with a good farrier, be interesting to see what they say though.
 
Yep, I'll be there when hes shod.
Would really like to hear what he says about how he's been shod, and how he thinks he should be shod.
He tripped 3 times today which he never does, so can't wait for them to be sorted so I can start cracking on with him :D
I mentioned about the new balance shoes, and he does use them and says he will see what he thinks is best.
 
Pepper your farrier with questions and ask him to show you as he is shoeing your horse. You learn loads that way. I ask questions all the time. But then I am lucky to have a good farrier that I trust totally. If I am unhappy I tell him, if he is unhappy he tells me! :D

Works well for both of us and more importantly my boys!

Feet are so so important. Learn as much as you can about them.
 
I've just had this problem with my skewbald mare. The previous farrier was shoing her very down on the heel despite the fact that i kept mentioning this to him. His last attemp with too small shoes resulting in the same pictures that you show, made me contact my previous farrier who never turns up on time (or in the same week), but he immediatly showed me a longer shoe and correct trim that she should have got. I would use a different farrier.
 
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