Hills Prescription IV diet....why, just why? :D

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Islay greyhound has just come back from the vets today after running a massive temperature, resulting in an emergency admission to vet hospital and worrying me senseless, and the vet has said that temporarily she shouldn't be on a raw diet (only because it takes longer to digest so is more difficult for her to process).

So he has given me some Hills Prescription IV Diet... god it is VILE!!! It smells far worse than any raw diet, it is so sticky and revolting that she can't eat it properly (no teeth means it is very hard to eat at the best of times) and she is begging me to have some proper food :D

I am off to get some chicken and rice for her tomorrow (has to be cooked at the moment) but I really resent the hold that Hills seem to have over vets... must be all the backhanders they give them...

Just a rant there :)
 
Thanks GinaB - she is so much better today, but I thought I was going to lose her on Tuesday night :( :( The x-rays show something that is probably a growth or a tumour but they cannot make it out clearly, for the time being we are just treating the symptoms she is showing as we have agreed invasive surgery is not an option for her.

I just can't wait until she is on proper food again - and I don't think she can either :D
 
11 1/2 :) She looks incredibly well for her age (apart from no teeth and going grey!) and was already being spoiled rotten, I think she will be even more spoiled now if that is possible :)
 
Is it the tinned I/D? It's flipping revolting, doesn't contain anything even vaguely related to actual meat and the one time mine had some it gave them raging squits, thereby undoing any supposed gastrointestinal benefits. :p

No backhanders to speak of, just slick marketing really. Sign up to selling their crap and you get the fancy backlit displays, posters, leaflets, client loyalty vouchers/discount schemes, all covered in their pseudo-scientific babble that people actually really believe and think they are buying a premium product. We don't get sales related bonus and the markup on it is relatively modest. And I do so enjoy baiting the reps... :D

Hope she is feeling better soon and gums up her chicken and rice! I'm down your way this weekend for a race if you have time to meet for a coffee, though fully understand if you'll be at home with the invalid. :)
 
Yep it is the tinned stuff BC - amazingly after Islay had turned her nose up at it Amy wolfed it all down, just to be pig headed I think because she could, Even she had problems eating it! I did lol at your rep-baiting though :D :D

Would have been great to meet up but I think I'd better invalid-sit this weekend I'm afraid - I'm sure Islay won't be that bothered but I am more than a little paranoid now...
 
Get a cork ready, Ricoh will also readily eat it but it comes jetting out of his bum about a hour later. :p

Rep baiting is glorious, they squawk most indignantly when I tell them that my dog's breakfast that morning was a rabbit I chopped in half with a cleaver: fed guts, skin and all. I'm supposed to be impressed by the spurious claim that a £15 3kg bag of their kibble contains a whole chicken breast...

Give the invalid a squeeze from us!
 
I had a similar situation when Teasel had pancreatitis. The young vet dealing with her was horrified when I said she was raw feed and was convinced that was the reason for her pancreatitis ( it wasn't). When she was discharged she wanted to put her on a Hills special diet and I refused, she then said well you could give her Chappie (tinned), which I was happy to as I know its a suitable food for dogs with upset stomachs. She spent one month on the Chappie and then I put her on a special low fat raw diet, that was 2 years ago and she has been fine ever since.
 
Teaselmeg said:
I had a similar situation when Teasel had pancreatitis. The young vet dealing with her was horrified when I said she was raw feed and was convinced that was the reason for her pancreatitis ( it wasn't). When she was discharged she wanted to put her on a Hills special diet and I refused, she then said well you could give her Chappie (tinned), which I was happy to as I know its a suitable food for dogs with upset stomachs. She spent one month on the Chappie and then I put her on a special low fat raw diet, that was 2 years ago and she has been fine ever since.
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Ooooo Teaselmeg thank you - pancreatitis was one of the things they suspected with Islay, but the blood tests ruled it out. I was wondering how I should adapt her raw diet to cater for her being potentially more sensitive though - what did you do make it a low fat raw diet please?

I nearly suggested Chappie to my vet last night (he is receptive to ideas, and has no problem with raw feeding generally at all) but he said cooked chicken & rice for the next few days, I'm back there on Monday so will see where we are then :)
 
blackcob said:
Get a cork ready, Ricoh will also readily eat it but it comes jetting out of his bum about a hour later. :p

Rep baiting is glorious, they squawk most indignantly when I tell them that my dog's breakfast that morning was a rabbit I chopped in half with a cleaver: fed guts, skin and all. I'm supposed to be impressed by the spurious claim that a £15 3kg bag of their kibble contains a whole chicken breast...

Give the invalid a squeeze from us!
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Islay has refused to eat the rubbish food again this morning so Hoover had it.... I am so going to regret that I fear...

Gentle squeeze duly given :) :) :)
 
I was under the impression (and it's certainly true with my dogs) that raw is easier and processed quicker? I cna ask my canine nutritionist friend to clarify?

As you probably know most of the vets nutrition advice is given to them by the feed companies.
 
I thought that too ace33, but he said to me that with cooked meat the proteins had begun to break down so were easier to digest. I must admit I was surprised but didnt like to question him too much lol :) If you could ask your friend I would really appreciate it, thank you :)
 
Most animals when ill instinctively starve themselves, this includes foxes,wolves and dogs, its natures way of concentrating their energy on fighting/resting whatever is wrong with them. Personally I wouldn't feed that crap but starve for 24/48 hours then give something like homemade chicken broth/soup before feeding them their normal food in a smaller quantity.

levrier Im sorry to hear about Islay, hope she picks up soon and you have her for a long long time.
 
How strange. One of my dogs ended up with a sickness bug last week and the vet said don't change anything, keep them on what the gut is used to, just feed tiny portions more often rather than one or two big feeds. You could purée their normal food if it's difficult to eat?
 
Lévrier;12701548 said:
Ooooo Teaselmeg thank you - pancreatitis was one of the things they suspected with Islay, but the blood tests ruled it out. I was wondering how I should adapt her raw diet to cater for her being potentially more sensitive though - what did you do make it a low fat raw diet please?

I nearly suggested Chappie to my vet last night (he is receptive to ideas, and has no problem with raw feeding generally at all) but he said cooked chicken & rice for the next few days, I'm back there on Monday so will see where we are then :)
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Hello, she started on Natural Instinct Special Diet, but I stopped using Natural Instinct and switched to Nutriment. They do a diet called Low Purine that is low in fat and suitable for dogs with pancreatitis etc. They also do a chicken formula mix that is low in fat and she loves that too !
 
Dobiegirl said:
Most animals when ill instinctively starve themselves, this includes foxes,wolves and dogs, its natures way of concentrating their energy on fighting/resting whatever is wrong with them. Personally I wouldn't feed that crap but starve for 24/48 hours then give something like homemade chicken broth/soup before feeding them their normal food in a smaller quantity.

levrier Im sorry to hear about Islay, hope she picks up soon and you have her for a long long time.
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Thank you DG :) :)
 
Honey08 said:
How strange. One of my dogs ended up with a sickness bug last week and the vet said don't change anything, keep them on what the gut is used to, just feed tiny portions more often rather than one or two big feeds. You could purée their normal food if it's difficult to eat?
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Because she has no teeth she just get raw minced food, so it isn't at all difficult for her to eat - I did tell the vet that :) I have bought her some Chappie now, she has eaten a little bit but doesn't seem particularly keen on it either. I am really hoping that when I feed the others this evening she will be wanting her raw food - fingers crossed :)
 
Teaselmeg said:
Hello, she started on Natural Instinct Special Diet, but I stopped using Natural Instinct and switched to Nutriment. They do a diet called Low Purine that is low in fat and suitable for dogs with pancreatitis etc. They also do a chicken formula mix that is low in fat and she loves that too !
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Thanks so much Teaselmeg I will have a look online :)
 
Lévrier;12701140 said:
Islay greyhound has just come back from the vets today after running a massive temperature, resulting in an emergency admission to vet hospital and worrying me senseless, and the vet has said that temporarily she shouldn't be on a raw diet (only because it takes longer to digest so is more difficult for her to process).

So he has given me some Hills Prescription IV Diet... god it is VILE!!! It smells far worse than any raw diet, it is so sticky and revolting that she can't eat it properly (no teeth means it is very hard to eat at the best of times) and she is begging me to have some proper food :D

I am off to get some chicken and rice for her tomorrow (has to be cooked at the moment) but I really resent the hold that Hills seem to have over vets... must be all the backhanders they give them...

Just a rant there :)
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It's like s**t in a tin. None of mine will eat it & I don't blame them. Vile stuff.
 
We are going to Cheltenham tomorrow to get some ethically produced veal - it is only 0.9% fat apparently so should be great for her :) Not cheap but, as the saying goes, she is worth it....

In fact she is worth a million times more than any money I could pay :)
 
Rabbit mince is very low fat. Dogs can be nutritionally deficient on it eventually because it's so low in fat, so mixed with another mince is probs best.

Tinned Chappie is your go to for sicky dogs, just avoid the epically awful dry version which contains BHT/BHA. Foul! I wouldn't touch Hills.

The last time a dog was sick or had a general, the vet nurse said to feed his normal food instead of the usual chicken/white rice. I was surprised at this after many years of dog ownership, it's usually rice, bland, blah.
 
I've got some Chappie CT but it is with chicken & rice so it is quite dry - she doesn't like it. I think she is a tad fussy..... :)

I like the idea of rabbit mince as well, I will see if they have any of that, thanks!
 
Thanks CT I will try that, she ate her lunch today when I mixed the Chappie with a little bit of tripe and beef mince but will try adding water next time.

She went out for a little walk today, she loved it :) I cannot believe how well she is doing when I really thought I would have to have her PTS on Wednesday evening....
 
Hence the expression 'sick as a dog'. They frighten the pants off you. I held Bear in my arms for a weekend, thinking he was dying. He'd been poisoned and I was sure he was going to die, my heart nearly broke. Come Monday morning, the little swine was hungry, bouncy, incredible.
 
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